Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947844)

I guess.

Get Winston's camp back on the horn, propose a 3 year deal heavy with incentives, keep all of those picks & get this offense back to where it needs to be in order to compete.

I'm not a fan of potentially losing Ceedy D anyways. Extend your dawgs.

But hey, I'm just a couch coach :p

Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 947849)

I read earlier from a local reporter on Twitter that Falcons were sending Ryan to the Texans and getting Watson, along with various other picks and players in the deal. I wonder if Ryan balked at that and demanded another destination. In exchange he would push back that bonus and allow extra time.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947846)

Well, you are undefeated.

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 947837)

Just give the Eagles a 5th/6th whatever for Minshew. Still has a year left on his rookie deal, so real cheap. While he may never be a franchise QB why pay good back up money to a potential starter.

You have your future firsts, you keep a good young players


Minshew is just about to turn 26
Career 41-12 TD-TO ratio playing for Jacksonville

Beef up the interior of the line and get in another RB. Beef up the interior of the line ready for a QB when you find one. Minshew wont lose you games with stupid turnovers. Stepped in well last year
4 games
68.3% completion
4-1 TD
Passer rating 104.8

On the worst team in the league in 2020(1-15) and being sacked on avg 3 times a game, he played 9 games. Spread them stats over a 16 game season

4016 yards
28.4 TDs
8.8 INT

Do for him what the Browns did for Mayfield when they were healthy in the playoffs two years ago. Let him make some throws but put the game on the defensive and running game.

Not like we have much talent at WR outside of a player who hasn't played or been healthy in approaching 2 years in September

Go get yourself another allround back that can come in this year and be part of a dup in 2023. The NFL OLB have been getting smaller the past few years, its one of the reason you are seeing the likes of Hunt/Chubb,Taylor get their yards.

In the words of the great Mickey Goldmill
“You're a greasy fast 200 pound Italian tank. Go through him! Run over him!”

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 947759)

Front office probably told him if Watson chooses New Orleans that he's a part of the deal so he's pissed off. He was really emotionally invested in to the Saints from what I saw from him on social media. I think his feelings are hurt. ****, mine are hurt for him. I definitely didn't want to move him. But I'm assuming if he's gone and we get Watson there's a Honey Badger sitting around waiting to see how all this plays out.

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 947861)

Today has got to be the day, right? There needs to be some kind of deadline to this saga. I dunno about you guys, but I'm exhausted, between it being the first week of daylight saving time and and hitting refresh on this forum constantly.
If he doesn't make his decision today, Jameis needs to have a new contract tomorrow.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 947862)

I honestly do not blame him. He has until April 22nd to decide. That comes with the risk of having clubs grow impatient and retracting their offers to go in a different direction.

When agreements drag out it is generally because of contractual terms. Watson and his agent are 'probably' looking at an offer from New Orleans and Atlanta with different guarantees and similar but different Ts&Cs regarding conduct. Watson's Houston contract is only relevant for 24hours then the destination team can restructure it so I am sure Watson and his agent are also looking at what the restructure from each team looks like.

As far as Jameis Winston, he has had an offer from New Orleans from earlier in the off-season, him not being a Saint is on him. He is gambling that the Watson thing falls through and New Orleans panics and gives him a better deal.

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 947863)

Yeah, I get it... I understand that its a huge decision and he and his agent need to figure out what makes sense for them. And, maybe if it wasn't between us and ATL, it would be less nerve-wracking... But, come on... I still want him to come here, but most of all, I just wanna know one way or the other, so we can focus on other things.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 947865)

Dennis Allen with a hell of a start to his tenure… Whiff on Deshaun Watson and alienate the players who were included in the potential trade.

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 947866)

I have zero patience so I can understand your frustration ;).

Try this, put your self in his shoes. 26yo, single, not only are you making a decision that a potential $100MM future implication but you are gifted with something that is very rare in this league especially at his age.

When was the last time a QB under 30 had the fortune of being able to decide where he goes? QB of his caliber are generally long term at the team they were drafted by, franchise tagged, or traded without much choice. If I were his friend id say '***K the fans, take the time to make the right decision for you'.

Now, if he is out getting a massage and not really pining on the decision then screw him.

Originally Posted by TheKillerBs (Post 947868)

The only thing worse than being a Saints fan right now and waiting for this decision, is being a Falcons fan, because their team already sucks. XD

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore (Post 947864)

I think the Watson to ATL is a done deal. Matt Ryan pushing his roster bonus until Tuesday gives him and another team time to explore a trade destination. We need to move on.....

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947871)

Which team do you predict ?

The NFL is a cutthroat business. I hope Atlanta gets no help and die with Ryans salary & potential cap hit.

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore (Post 947874)

I'm with you on that lol! Honestly I can see Ryan going to the Colts. They are looking for a Vet at QB. Ryan telling the Falcons sure hold my 7 million for a few days just made me think this is a done deal. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947875)

I can see this as a win/win situation for the Saints right now. If we get Watson we may be set for the next decade at the position with basically all our current roster tied up for the next couple of years or more. If we don't get Watson we now have $30 million in cleared cap space to sign Winston and Armstead, plus any other free agents (Mathieu, Landry, et al) needed to make a run regardless.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 947882)

Turns out my guy was right. This was Blank's deal to "lose" all along.

I hope Matt Ryan gets cut, costing them even more money.

I haven't seen this posted - what do you think of Gardner Minshew? Heck of a talent who just needs the right team.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 947882)

Turns out my guy was right. This was Blank's deal to "lose" all along.

I hope Matt Ryan gets cut, costing them even more money.

I haven't seen this posted - what do you think of Gardner Minshew? Heck of a talent who just needs the right team.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 947884)

Search the thread ... it's in there.

Nobody is giving the FailClowns draft capital for Matty Ice, methinks. Contract is way too hefty.

Ask yourself, WWBB do? What would Bill B. do? And there is your answer. This is a team game. Yeah it's really nice to have an elite QB, especially when other parts of the team suck. Plenty of wasted Brees years with a bad defense... and a handful of bad decisions by SP as HC. At least SP recognized he needed to do something about the defense. And we have a really good defense now. Let's get some toys to play with, more beef up front, not mortgage our future with the loss of so many draft picks.... and kick some azz!

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 947886)

Falcons, Matt Ryan agree to delay $7.5 million roster bonus until Tuesday

Imagine this... FailClowns cut Matty Ice, because they have to. Then Matty Ice picks the Saints as a FA. We can work with for a few years after he clears waivers. Prolly won't happen, but fun banter nonetheless.

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 947886)

Falcons, Matt Ryan agree to delay $7.5 million roster bonus until Tuesday

Imagine this... FailClowns cut Matty Ice, because they have to. Then Matty Ice picks the Saints as a FA. We can work with for a few years after he clears waivers. Prolly won't happen, but fun banter nonetheless.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947892)

F* Matt Ryan and the Falcons.

Larry Holder has already pretty much stated the Colts have agreed in trade principle with Ryan. Watson has already chosen Atlanta.

Saints need to seriously visit Plan B & the upcoming draft.

The circus is getting old.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 947893)

What about Book? Are we going to get better where we pick in the draft? It's not like he got a fair shot in the Covid game. Let's develop him and use the picks elsewhere.

Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 947893)

What about Book? Are we going to get better where we pick in the draft? It's not like he got a fair shot in the Covid game. Let's develop him and use the picks elsewhere.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947897)

Simply not a fan of Book. Even in that Miami/covid fiasco, I saw no flash or athleticism to outrun pros & lacked decision making ability to know when to throw the ball away. 4th rounder and IMO his ceiling is back up role.

Plan B should be to re target > Winston on a 2/3 year deal.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 947889)

I kind of like that idea. It would be sweet to win a Lombardi with Ryan when they couldn't his whole career. They'd be paying for him with his dead money. We can sign him cheap as dirt if he get released.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 947897)

Simply not a fan of Book. Even in that Miami/covid fiasco, I saw no flash or athleticism to outrun pros & lacked decision making ability to know when to throw the ball away. 4th rounder and IMO his ceiling is back up role.

Plan B should be to re target > Winston on a 2/3 year deal.