2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:41 PM

Treylon Burks and combination if ANY 3RD round WR would hp this team WAAAAAY more

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2022, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Trading up to grab Olave cost us on the back end Chris HAS to be 1a 1b WR with all if what we gave up. Saints were to cut up on the speed Bo Melton Tyquan alot spedd demons in the draft Could have drafted Treylon at 16 and one of those other guys in third with our 2nd 3rd that we traded away for Chris

Have you considered they didn't want any of those players you mentioned? Just because you, or some so-called draft expert, like a player doesn't mean the team has any desire, at all for any number of reasons, to draft that player.

Just saying.

neugey · 04-30-2022, 02:41 PM

Olave, by the Saints brass and mostly by consensus, has the highest floor of the top WR's in the draft. Clearly we put a premium on getting the surest thing we could at WR. So in a way we did draft based on need with the move up for Olave - which you can't blame the Saints for, based on the historically low production we had at that position in 2021.

Boston Saint · 04-30-2022, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Jameson is the better Prospect

Maybe so, but that’s not the point. Neither he or Olave would have been available at 16. That’s why both Det and we moved up. Otherwise at 16 we are drafting a WR with a perceived much lower ceiling.

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Have you considered they didn't want any of those players you mentioned? Just because you, or some so-called draft expert, like a player doesn't mean the team has any desire, at all for any number of reasons, to draft that player.

Just saying.

That's all you are doing is "JUST SAYING" and I'm responding to you speaking on behalf of the organization. You said the reasons I replied if your trading away picks for what they got IMO that wasn't a win now move have you considered your words right

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Maybe so, but that’s not the point. Neither he or Olave would have been available at 16. That’s why both Det and we moved up. Otherwise at 16 we are drafting a WR with a perceived much lower ceiling.

Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine.

jeanpierre · 04-30-2022, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Sorry but I don’t see it that way. Detroit moved up to get Alabama’s guy right after us. If we wanted Olave (or another top rated WR) then we had to move up. Otherwise we take the same tackle at 16 rather than 19. Just my take of course.

That was the expected scenario; then, as DA stated "nothing surprises me in the NFL draft"; WRs started moving earlier than expected...

S Kyle Hamilton fell out the Top 10, and Ravens were rumored to take Penning that early - hooray for our team...

Malik Willis was a supposed Top 12 pick; SEA surprised and focused on that terrible offensive line with Cross, safe, but smart move...

So Saints made the jump on their top rated WR with pretty good trade value per the Rich Hill trade chart - modern day version of Jimmy Johnson innovation...

Then, Jordan Davis jumped into the Top 15 despite some teams having reservations about his discipline...

Chargers getting Justin Herbert, already a Top 5 QB, some protection at G to protect their greatest asset...

And Penning conveniently fell to us at 19; and we got one big, nasty bully; and as I said in previous post (trade chart), we got our two guys, just not as we expected...

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:50 PM

If the Saints are in win NOW mode as most of you claim justifying the picks with that notion then these 2 picks should be plug n play impact players day 1 and if they aren't we could have went a different route and grabbed other needs or at least better players for those needs

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 02:52 PM

The acquisition of players able to help us wiN"IMMEDIATELY" did not have to come with us giving up 2 middle round picks for it agree or disagree I stand on it.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2022, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine.

Fine for who? Perhaps for you, but apparently not for them. They put far more hours into this process than any of us. I trust they have a better idea of what is best for them than any of us.

04-30-2022, 02:41 PM	#361
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Treylon Burks and combination if ANY 3RD round WR would hp this team WAAAAAY more

04-30-2022, 02:41 PM	#362
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Trading up to grab Olave cost us on the back end Chris HAS to be 1a 1b WR with all if what we gave up. Saints were to cut up on the speed Bo Melton Tyquan alot spedd demons in the draft Could have drafted Treylon at 16 and one of those other guys in third with our 2nd 3rd that we traded away for Chris Have you considered they didn't want any of those players you mentioned? Just because you, or some so-called draft expert, like a player doesn't mean the team has any desire, at all for any number of reasons, to draft that player. Just saying.

04-30-2022, 02:41 PM	#363
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Olave, by the Saints brass and mostly by consensus, has the highest floor of the top WR's in the draft. Clearly we put a premium on getting the surest thing we could at WR. So in a way we did draft based on need with the move up for Olave - which you can't blame the Saints for, based on the historically low production we had at that position in 2021. SmashMouth likes this.

04-30-2022, 02:44 PM	#364
Boston Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,879	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Jameson is the better Prospect Maybe so, but that’s not the point. Neither he or Olave would have been available at 16. That’s why both Det and we moved up. Otherwise at 16 we are drafting a WR with a perceived much lower ceiling.

04-30-2022, 02:45 PM	#365
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Have you considered they didn't want any of those players you mentioned? Just because you, or some so-called draft expert, like a player doesn't mean the team has any desire, at all for any number of reasons, to draft that player. Just saying. That's all you are doing is "JUST SAYING" and I'm responding to you speaking on behalf of the organization. You said the reasons I replied if your trading away picks for what they got IMO that wasn't a win now move have you considered your words right

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04-30-2022, 02:46 PM	#366
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint Maybe so, but that’s not the point. Neither he or Olave would have been available at 16. That’s why both Det and we moved up. Otherwise at 16 we are drafting a WR with a perceived much lower ceiling. Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine.

04-30-2022, 02:47 PM	#367
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Boston Saint Sorry but I don’t see it that way. Detroit moved up to get Alabama’s guy right after us. If we wanted Olave (or another top rated WR) then we had to move up. Otherwise we take the same tackle at 16 rather than 19. Just my take of course. That was the expected scenario; then, as DA stated "nothing surprises me in the NFL draft"; WRs started moving earlier than expected... S Kyle Hamilton fell out the Top 10, and Ravens were rumored to take Penning that early - hooray for our team... Malik Willis was a supposed Top 12 pick; SEA surprised and focused on that terrible offensive line with Cross, safe, but smart move... So Saints made the jump on their top rated WR with pretty good trade value per the Rich Hill trade chart - modern day version of Jimmy Johnson innovation... Then, Jordan Davis jumped into the Top 15 despite some teams having reservations about his discipline... Chargers getting Justin Herbert, already a Top 5 QB, some protection at G to protect their greatest asset... And Penning conveniently fell to us at 19; and we got one big, nasty bully; and as I said in previous post (trade chart), we got our two guys, just not as we expected... SmashMouth, Pete and Boston Saint like this.
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04-30-2022, 02:50 PM	#368
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints If the Saints are in win NOW mode as most of you claim justifying the picks with that notion then these 2 picks should be plug n play impact players day 1 and if they aren't we could have went a different route and grabbed other needs or at least better players for those needs

04-30-2022, 02:52 PM	#369
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints The acquisition of players able to help us wiN"IMMEDIATELY" did not have to come with us giving up 2 middle round picks for it agree or disagree I stand on it.

04-30-2022, 02:52 PM	#370
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Who cares Olave doesn't equal SB. ANY of those WRs taken in the first would have just fine. Fine for who? Perhaps for you, but apparently not for them. They put far more hours into this process than any of us. I trust they have a better idea of what is best for them than any of us.