2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

jeanpierre · 04-30-2022, 03:06 PM

Man, we could've selected Kyle Phillips and had him in the slot this fall...

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2022, 03:10 PM

I have a sneaking suspicion that the team has a better idea than us what and who they feel is THEIR best option.

I'm seeing Deion Jones as a comp for D'Marco Jackson.

“Speed and grit. That’s what D’Marco Jackson brought to the football field for App State the last four years, and he’s won a hell of a lot of admirers because of it - myself included. Jackson might be a tad undersized for NFL tastes to play inside - but nobody has told him that, and i’m pretty sure ball carriers respect his physicality and aggression when he introduces himself at the point of contact. There is a little bit of a contradictory feel to Jackson’s eval, in that he has the speed to operate as a WILL linebacker (where his size is less of an issue), but his tackle range is much more suited on the interior where his presence is harder to avoid. Jackson comes with considerable special teams pedigree that will allow him to make an instant impact at the next level, whilst a coaching staff decides how he can contribute on defense.”

Simon Carroll
Head Of NFL Draft Content

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 03:16 PM

C+ so far for Saints draft grade

ChrisXVI · 04-30-2022, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Man, we could've selected Kyle Phillips and had him in the slot this fall...

Maybe we have no desire to have Kyle Phillips playing in the slot for us.

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 03:20 PM

We should not have gave up 3 picks to move up 5 spots to draft Olave that jump was unnecessary and too much. The second rbd pick from Ten I don't have clue what their intentions are the LB Appalachian st? We should have traded back with the 16th pick racked up on more picks to fill holes now no RB nO TE 1 WR No DT Saints failed this draft on paper I'm sorry

ChrisXVI · 04-30-2022, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Chris, there's still rotational guys like Butler who could provide juice at the 3-tech, get your special teams in Round 7/Rookie Free Agency...

If Kwon is re-signed, it'll be moot, but after a terrific Day 1, Saints have shat their hat Day 2, Day 3...

Like to know who beat the table for a LBer that likely won't have a veteran contract...

Some amazing talent is still there...

Nobody else has drafted Matthew Butler either. He wouldn’t still be available if he was that guy.

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Based on the Rich Hill trade chart, with the Saints remaining picks 161 and 194, packaged, the Saints could move up to the last pick of Round 4, first pick of Round 5...

With regards to the Olave trade, Redskins sent the 11th pick (357.62) for the Saints trade package of the 16th, 98th, and 120th (305.41 + 37.68 + 23.1 = 366.19)...

So that's gives the Saints a differential of 8.57 - that's an impressive value swap...

Nitpicking some, but it'd been nice if Loomis could've got the Redskins to send back their pick at 189 (4.97), to gain some juice; but, hey, they're under the clock...

And, as D.A. stated, Olave was their highest rated WR, most complete prospect, and he's probably right, and we got the two players we most needed in this draft...

Mock Drafts got it right for the Saints Olave and Penning, it was just how we got there was the twist...

Garret is the better route runner Unless Chris wasn't running routes because his speed was enough cool but his route running needs ALOT of work

jeanpierre · 04-30-2022, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

C+ so far for Saints draft grade

Day 1 - A freaking Plus!

Days 2, 3? not so much...

ChrisXVI · 04-30-2022, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Garret is the better route runner Unless Chris wasn't running routes because his speed was enough cool but his route running needs ALOT of work

That’s a horrendous take.

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2022, 03:24 PM

Chris doesn't block he's actually pretty bad at it on tape. DA idk man definitely let some meat on the bone.

04-30-2022, 03:06 PM	#341
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Man, we could've selected Kyle Phillips and had him in the slot this fall...

04-30-2022, 03:10 PM	#342
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,167	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints I have a sneaking suspicion that the team has a better idea than us what and who they feel is THEIR best option. I'm seeing Deion Jones as a comp for D'Marco Jackson. “Speed and grit. That’s what D’Marco Jackson brought to the football field for App State the last four years, and he’s won a hell of a lot of admirers because of it - myself included. Jackson might be a tad undersized for NFL tastes to play inside - but nobody has told him that, and i’m pretty sure ball carriers respect his physicality and aggression when he introduces himself at the point of contact. There is a little bit of a contradictory feel to Jackson’s eval, in that he has the speed to operate as a WILL linebacker (where his size is less of an issue), but his tackle range is much more suited on the interior where his presence is harder to avoid. Jackson comes with considerable special teams pedigree that will allow him to make an instant impact at the next level, whilst a coaching staff decides how he can contribute on defense.” Simon Carroll Head Of NFL Draft Content
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

04-30-2022, 03:16 PM	#343
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04-30-2022, 03:18 PM	#344
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Man, we could've selected Kyle Phillips and had him in the slot this fall... Maybe we have no desire to have Kyle Phillips playing in the slot for us. AsylumGuido, Rell&Gold and K Major like this.

04-30-2022, 03:20 PM	#345
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints We should not have gave up 3 picks to move up 5 spots to draft Olave that jump was unnecessary and too much. The second rbd pick from Ten I don't have clue what their intentions are the LB Appalachian st? We should have traded back with the 16th pick racked up on more picks to fill holes now no RB nO TE 1 WR No DT Saints failed this draft on paper I'm sorry

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04-30-2022, 03:21 PM	#346
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Chris, there's still rotational guys like Butler who could provide juice at the 3-tech, get your special teams in Round 7/Rookie Free Agency... If Kwon is re-signed, it'll be moot, but after a terrific Day 1, Saints have shat their hat Day 2, Day 3... Like to know who beat the table for a LBer that likely won't have a veteran contract... Some amazing talent is still there... Nobody else has drafted Matthew Butler either. He wouldn’t still be available if he was that guy. AsylumGuido and K Major like this.

04-30-2022, 03:22 PM	#347
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Based on the Rich Hill trade chart, with the Saints remaining picks 161 and 194, packaged, the Saints could move up to the last pick of Round 4, first pick of Round 5... With regards to the Olave trade, Redskins sent the 11th pick (357.62) for the Saints trade package of the 16th, 98th, and 120th (305.41 + 37.68 + 23.1 = 366.19)... So that's gives the Saints a differential of 8.57 - that's an impressive value swap... Nitpicking some, but it'd been nice if Loomis could've got the Redskins to send back their pick at 189 (4.97), to gain some juice; but, hey, they're under the clock... And, as D.A. stated, Olave was their highest rated WR, most complete prospect, and he's probably right, and we got the two players we most needed in this draft... Mock Drafts got it right for the Saints Olave and Penning, it was just how we got there was the twist... Garret is the better route runner Unless Chris wasn't running routes because his speed was enough cool but his route running needs ALOT of work

04-30-2022, 03:24 PM	#348
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold C+ so far for Saints draft grade Day 1 - A freaking Plus! Days 2, 3? not so much... SmashMouth likes this.

04-30-2022, 03:24 PM	#349
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Garret is the better route runner Unless Chris wasn't running routes because his speed was enough cool but his route running needs ALOT of work That’s a horrendous take. shawnkytonk likes this.

04-30-2022, 03:24 PM	#350
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,887	Re: 2022 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Chris doesn't block he's actually pretty bad at it on tape. DA idk man definitely let some meat on the bone.