Head Coach Material

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2022, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

How have some of you correlated youth with health again?

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...sition-and-age

Nice find, Oak. This research shows no correlation at all between age and time missed due to injury.

Rugby Saint II · 11-15-2022, 12:34 PM

I don't think we're the type of franchise to cut a coach mid season. It's a bad look for other coaches looking to come here. We are a family run business and he'll probably get to live through the rest of the year. Double dang!

leilung · 11-15-2022, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think we're the type of franchise to cut a coach mid season. It's a bad look for other coaches looking to come here. We are a family run business and he'll probably get to live through the rest of the year. Double dang!

Agreed. Most franchises won't abandon their selection for HC without giving him enough rope to hang himself...

DA is walking to the gallows. There's still time for a stay of execution.

neugey · 11-15-2022, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Agreed. Most franchises won't abandon their selection for HC without giving him enough rope to hang himself...

DA is walking to the gallows. There's still time for a stay of execution.

If the downturn continues, the best approach is to push the big button on Black Monday (first day after regular season concludes) and let go of Mickey and DA and any and all who report to them.

halloween 65 · 11-15-2022, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

I don't think we're the type of franchise to cut a coach mid season. It's a bad look for other coaches looking to come here. We are a family run business and he'll probably get to live through the rest of the year. Double dang!

Not really rugs. It just shows we're not going to put up with a loser like Allen. He can't say he didn't have talent on this team or can't say he didn't throw away a now high first round desperatly now needed draft pick. He can't deny nothing. Firing him today is 6 months to late.

Rugby Saint II · 11-15-2022, 03:00 PM

I agree that we have wasted the opportunities to change the future of this franchise back to an upward pointing arrow. I don't know if that's as much Loomis's fault or he's just listening to his head coaches telling what they want and then he finds it for them. I've always said he's just a really good bean counter and that we need a real GM. I don't think we can look at Jeff Ireland in that role either, as he failed his last time around too.

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2022, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

If the downturn continues, the best approach is to push the big button on Black Monday (first day after regular season concludes) and let go of Mickey and DA and any and all who report to them.

And exactly who is going to do that? The dynamics at the top of the Saints is different than most other organizations. Gayle looks upon Mickey as a son. That has been shared literally on many occasions. Just as with Payton, Loomis is going to stay as long as he wishes as long as Gayle is living and that's likely to be for many more years. As badly as some fans wish to jerk the knee and clear house it's simply not the way the Saints organization from the top down operates. Best approach or not. Just saying.

halloween 65 · 11-15-2022, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And exactly who is going to do that? The dynamics at the top of the Saints is different than most other organizations. Gayle looks upon Mickey as a son. That has been shared literally on many occasions. Just as with Payton, Loomis is going to stay as long as he wishes as long as Gayle is living and that's likely to be for many more years. As badly as some fans wish to jerk the knee and clear house it's simply not the way the Saints organization from the top down operates. Best approach or not. Just saying.

We keep losing she might look at him as the saying goes" a red-headed stepchild. Just sayin'.

AsylumGuido · 11-15-2022, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

We keep losing she might look at him as the saying goes" a red-headed stepchild. Just sayin'.

Perhaps over multiple years. She's not the most wealthy woman in Louisiana by being overly reactive.

halloween 65 · 11-15-2022, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Perhaps over multiple years. She's not the most wealthy woman in Louisiana by being overly reactive.

If she lost in her buisnesses like the Saints are, she might react differently, bet she would be firing somebody then.

11-15-2022, 12:22 PM	#71
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Head Coach Material Originally Posted by TheOak How have some of you correlated youth with health again? https://www.footballoutsiders.com/st...sition-and-age Nice find, Oak. This research shows no correlation at all between age and time missed due to injury.

11-15-2022, 12:34 PM	#72
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Head Coach Material I don't think we're the type of franchise to cut a coach mid season. It's a bad look for other coaches looking to come here. We are a family run business and he'll probably get to live through the rest of the year. Double dang! neugey, leilung and SaintFanQ like this.

11-15-2022, 01:24 PM	#73
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Re: Head Coach Material Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think we're the type of franchise to cut a coach mid season. It's a bad look for other coaches looking to come here. We are a family run business and he'll probably get to live through the rest of the year. Double dang! Agreed. Most franchises won't abandon their selection for HC without giving him enough rope to hang himself... DA is walking to the gallows. There's still time for a stay of execution. SaintFanQ and Rugby Saint II like this.

11-15-2022, 02:56 PM	#74
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Head Coach Material Originally Posted by leilung Agreed. Most franchises won't abandon their selection for HC without giving him enough rope to hang himself... DA is walking to the gallows. There's still time for a stay of execution. If the downturn continues, the best approach is to push the big button on Black Monday (first day after regular season concludes) and let go of Mickey and DA and any and all who report to them.

11-15-2022, 02:57 PM	#75
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Head Coach Material Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II I don't think we're the type of franchise to cut a coach mid season. It's a bad look for other coaches looking to come here. We are a family run business and he'll probably get to live through the rest of the year. Double dang! Not really rugs. It just shows we're not going to put up with a loser like Allen. He can't say he didn't have talent on this team or can't say he didn't throw away a now high first round desperatly now needed draft pick. He can't deny nothing. Firing him today is 6 months to late.

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11-15-2022, 03:00 PM	#76
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Head Coach Material I agree that we have wasted the opportunities to change the future of this franchise back to an upward pointing arrow. I don't know if that's as much Loomis's fault or he's just listening to his head coaches telling what they want and then he finds it for them. I've always said he's just a really good bean counter and that we need a real GM. I don't think we can look at Jeff Ireland in that role either, as he failed his last time around too.

11-15-2022, 03:06 PM	#77
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Head Coach Material Originally Posted by neugey If the downturn continues, the best approach is to push the big button on Black Monday (first day after regular season concludes) and let go of Mickey and DA and any and all who report to them. And exactly who is going to do that? The dynamics at the top of the Saints is different than most other organizations. Gayle looks upon Mickey as a son. That has been shared literally on many occasions. Just as with Payton, Loomis is going to stay as long as he wishes as long as Gayle is living and that's likely to be for many more years. As badly as some fans wish to jerk the knee and clear house it's simply not the way the Saints organization from the top down operates. Best approach or not. Just saying.
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11-15-2022, 03:38 PM	#78
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Head Coach Material Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And exactly who is going to do that? The dynamics at the top of the Saints is different than most other organizations. Gayle looks upon Mickey as a son. That has been shared literally on many occasions. Just as with Payton, Loomis is going to stay as long as he wishes as long as Gayle is living and that's likely to be for many more years. As badly as some fans wish to jerk the knee and clear house it's simply not the way the Saints organization from the top down operates. Best approach or not. Just saying. We keep losing she might look at him as the saying goes" a red-headed stepchild. Just sayin'.

11-15-2022, 04:46 PM	#79
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: Head Coach Material Originally Posted by halloween 65 We keep losing she might look at him as the saying goes" a red-headed stepchild. Just sayin'. Perhaps over multiple years. She's not the most wealthy woman in Louisiana by being overly reactive.

11-15-2022, 07:18 PM	#80
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Head Coach Material Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Perhaps over multiple years. She's not the most wealthy woman in Louisiana by being overly reactive. If she lost in her buisnesses like the Saints are, she might react differently, bet she would be firing somebody then.