Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea

AsylumGuido · 01-04-2023, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I have said many times that our injuries are not a bug or fluke of Mickey Loomis’ system they are a feature. A major reason I advocate a rebuild is to clean house of our injury prone players. Its the people who argue for continuity who are ignoring the injury problem. Nobody has ever come back reliably from the stretch of 40 of 50 games that Thomas has missed. He will be injured next year just like Matt Ryan will blow big leads if given the opportunity. Andrus Peat will not play a full season, he never has. We are actually lucky on injuries that Taysom Hill has not had a major one yet. He always does with enough snaps. Guys like Mathieu and Landry are old and will be probe to injury. The way Loomis manages the cap we can’t get rid of the injury prone lame ducks like other teams do, we actually have to restructure their contacts with extensions to get under the cap. Had Julio Jones been a Saint not a Falcon he would still be on our roster and we would be talking about how its smart to keep him for 2023 and we can restructure his contract to add voidable years and prorate his converted bonus into 2028 and save $8 million vs $18 million dead cap to cut him so make it happen Loomis. You can convince yourself all you want that injuries are random but ultimately if a team seeks out and retains injury prone players they will have more injuries. This year was predictable. And exactly which injury rates are historic depends on what metric you use. The Chargers had a lot of injuries and are headed to the playoffs. The Steelers lost their best player for a lot of games and beat us. Plenty of teams have lost big players like Kupp and Stafford on the Rams. I am not ignoring the injuries I am saying we need to change our ways to prevent them and have more depth of mid round picks with upside to deal with them.

Injuries can happen at any time to any player in the league. A player that has had multiple injuries can go years without another. A player who has never missed a game to injury can be lost for the year in the blink of an eye on any play. The vast majority of injuries cannot be predicted by anyone, nor prevented by anyone.

Sorry, dude, but you are so full of crap.

Once again, waste of time.

BakoSaint · 01-04-2023, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Injuries can happen at any time to any player in the league. A player that has had multiple injuries can go years without another. A player who has never missed a game to injury can be lost for the year in the blink of an eye on any play. The vast majority of injuries cannot be predicted by anyone, nor prevented by anyone.

Sorry, dude, but you are so full of crap.

Once again, waste of time.

Ok name a player who missed 40 of 50 games due to injury and then was healthy for years?

My wife was watching Young Sheldon last night and the little boy pointed out something you seem to be missing. He said “you are mixing up possibility with probability.” Yes Jahvid Best could unretire, team up with Michael Thomas, and they could both join Matt Ryan in his return to the Falcons, none missing a game for the next few years, and leading Atlanta to a 40 point super bowl come back win. But thats not probable just because its possible.

You are a waste of time too guido, but at least you cost less to waste time than Thomas and Peat. The definition of insanity is following Andrus Peats career and expecting a healthy 2023. You can’t face the rebuild because you are convinced you won’t live a few more years but we have 20 players who are probably spending more time in the hospital than you and you are convinced they are al going to the pro bowl next year. Work on yourself. Believe in yourself. Don’t live vicariously through Andrus Peat and Michael Thomas. You may outlive them. Although not their deferred bonuses and prorated coverted salaries. None of us will.

01-04-2023, 09:32 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea Originally Posted by BakoSaint I have said many times that our injuries are not a bug or fluke of Mickey Loomis’ system they are a feature. A major reason I advocate a rebuild is to clean house of our injury prone players. Its the people who argue for continuity who are ignoring the injury problem. Nobody has ever come back reliably from the stretch of 40 of 50 games that Thomas has missed. He will be injured next year just like Matt Ryan will blow big leads if given the opportunity. Andrus Peat will not play a full season, he never has. We are actually lucky on injuries that Taysom Hill has not had a major one yet. He always does with enough snaps. Guys like Mathieu and Landry are old and will be probe to injury. The way Loomis manages the cap we can’t get rid of the injury prone lame ducks like other teams do, we actually have to restructure their contacts with extensions to get under the cap. Had Julio Jones been a Saint not a Falcon he would still be on our roster and we would be talking about how its smart to keep him for 2023 and we can restructure his contract to add voidable years and prorate his converted bonus into 2028 and save $8 million vs $18 million dead cap to cut him so make it happen Loomis. You can convince yourself all you want that injuries are random but ultimately if a team seeks out and retains injury prone players they will have more injuries. This year was predictable. And exactly which injury rates are historic depends on what metric you use. The Chargers had a lot of injuries and are headed to the playoffs. The Steelers lost their best player for a lot of games and beat us. Plenty of teams have lost big players like Kupp and Stafford on the Rams. I am not ignoring the injuries I am saying we need to change our ways to prevent them and have more depth of mid round picks with upside to deal with them. Injuries can happen at any time to any player in the league. A player that has had multiple injuries can go years without another. A player who has never missed a game to injury can be lost for the year in the blink of an eye on any play. The vast majority of injuries cannot be predicted by anyone, nor prevented by anyone. Sorry, dude, but you are so full of crap. Once again, waste of time. WW_Who_Dat likes this.

01-04-2023, 11:50 AM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,389	Re: Jim Harbaugh Win-Win Idea Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Injuries can happen at any time to any player in the league. A player that has had multiple injuries can go years without another. A player who has never missed a game to injury can be lost for the year in the blink of an eye on any play. The vast majority of injuries cannot be predicted by anyone, nor prevented by anyone. Sorry, dude, but you are so full of crap. Once again, waste of time. Ok name a player who missed 40 of 50 games due to injury and then was healthy for years? My wife was watching Young Sheldon last night and the little boy pointed out something you seem to be missing. He said “you are mixing up possibility with probability.” Yes Jahvid Best could unretire, team up with Michael Thomas, and they could both join Matt Ryan in his return to the Falcons, none missing a game for the next few years, and leading Atlanta to a 40 point super bowl come back win. But thats not probable just because its possible. You are a waste of time too guido, but at least you cost less to waste time than Thomas and Peat. The definition of insanity is following Andrus Peats career and expecting a healthy 2023. You can’t face the rebuild because you are convinced you won’t live a few more years but we have 20 players who are probably spending more time in the hospital than you and you are convinced they are al going to the pro bowl next year. Work on yourself. Believe in yourself. Don’t live vicariously through Andrus Peat and Michael Thomas. You may outlive them. Although not their deferred bonuses and prorated coverted salaries. None of us will.
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