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Ahh okay thanks, I wasn't aware of that.

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We don't have the choice of where he goes. We only have the choice of whether he goes or not.

And the Broncos do have a 1st. They got it in trade from the 49er's. It could end up anywhere from 25th to 32nd depending on how the Niners do this postseason.

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I agree that Payton covets the draft picks and that's why it will be part of the decision on where he goes, if he goes. That #3 in Arizona and that #2 in Houston really make them attractive spots for him all other things considered. Denver is attractive because of Russell Wilson and the ownership and front office.

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A loss to the Jags this afternoon could bring the Chargers into the mix. An opening round exit could give us a pick in the late teens. I would expect Payton wouldn't mind having Justin Herbert to play with and then there the fact that Payton already makes his home in LA.

I'm going to be a huge Jags fan today. That would be our best legitimate shot at a 1st round pick that high, I believe.

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I just don't think that we are going to see the value we all hope for. Sean Payton is not going to give away all his draft capital to build his new team with.

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If we can’t get what we want I’d make sure Sean Payton is working for Fox for the next two years.

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Getting paid what he's getting paid there I'm sure he can handle it with no problem. Although, would it not be throwing the baby out with the bathwater if we get no compensation whatsoever? There's a time to weigh principle against logic.

But I think they'll get what they want in exchange. It just may not be what fans want.

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This same logic has been shared before, Rugs. I believe you have it nailed.

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Wonder how much coaching changes and surrounding cast at UK had to do with that.

I don't know the answer but you're absolutely correct those seem to be glaring.

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Well after last night ... I wonder if the Chargers might schedule a Payton interview before or after giving Staley the pink slip?

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The Chargers had ZERO offense! Their O.C. is a some guy named Joe Lombardi!

In the 2nd half Herbert threw for just 134 yards and zero touchdowns, while Ekeler didn't gain a single yard on the ground in the final two quarters. The offense scored just three points in the second half compared to the 27 they scored in the first half. Just look at their drive charts after halftime:

7 plays, 37 yards, punt (2:32)
7 plays, 45 yards, field goal (2:13)
14 plays, 58 yards, missed field goal (6:57)
3 plays, 5 yards, punt (2:16)

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Things should be heating up!

I hope a new team announces Payton before superbowl. I can't start my offseason dive until I know what we're working with!!

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So the Chargers 🔌 could only muster up 3 points second half? Kicking fgs instead of going for it.

Offense went conservative & the defense couldn’t make a stop.

Playing “safe” gets you beat at this level.

Not sure if Staley survives.

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This sounds like the perfect haul to me.

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I want Sean Payton to be successful with the Chargers. If he can agree with ownership about investing in the team like Gayle Benson has done then he will have landed in a sweet spot.

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No surprise here.

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Here's Sean Payton spelling it out himself. There's not going to be any bidding. There's not going to be a high 1st round pick. There's not going to be multiple 1st round picks.

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LOL. Guido you want to badly to be right...

If Loomis gives SP away for a single late first-rounder, we can all get used to being a bad team for a long time.

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Once again, I would LOVE for it to be anything better, but logic stands that the Saints have little to no leverage to demand more. All I've done is attempt to temper what appears to be unrealistic expectations by some.

As for being a bad team for a long time, a first rounder plus any other picks puts us ahead of the curve. We got two first round players last year and we should get another this year. If we were going to be as bad as you surmise an additional 1st wouldn't make much of a difference one way or another. To think otherwise is just being overly pessimistic.

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If Payton gets traded away for a single pick, Loomis needs to be packaged in the deal and sent off as well.

It's not going to going to be a pick. It will be multiple.

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Of course it won't be a single pick. I don't believe anyone said it would be. All along it's been a 1st packaged with some other picks. Perhaps a 2023 2nd, 2023 3rd, and a 2024 2nd, for example. That's basically what Loomis shared with the media a couple of days ago.

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Unless, of course, Payton asked for that GM hire before he'd consider. :D

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Haha 😂

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That's absolutely a deal you take.

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The misconception here is that there are folks who feel as if a lot of fans believe we are going to get a Jon Gruden type package in return. We're not. Most logical fans know that just because the Raiders did something crazy, doesn't mean that it's going to happen here. The narrative for "the Saints have little to no leverage" is a bunch of horse**** and just an excuse if Loomis botches this thing.

Now while my opinions on Loomis haven't been favorable, his future here depends on this and I do not believe he will screw this up. Hopefully all of this will get wrapped up soon and we can look toward the future.

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Went look at the Texans picks and it would be nice to get their first(12th overall) and second this year or first(12th overall) and third this year with a second next year. I absolutely think Payton is worth that much, especially if they grab a top tier QB with that second overall pick. Not to mention, if I’m reading that right, looks like they have $47 million to play with this off season. He’ll make that team relevant quick

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No kidding. That's basically the type of deal that has been floating out there. A 1st and some other picks to bring a balance. For Denver it would be a late 2023 1st so the other picks would be less of the total equation. Carolina's 1st would be a mid-range 1st so the other picks would be even that much less, but in total about the same.

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Yes. I believe that the kind of deal the Saints are expecting. Not the two or three 1st rounders that some fans were unrealistically expecting.

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Tell me, please, exactly what leverage do you believe the Saints have beyond simply refusing the transfer of his rights? That gets them literally nothing in return. They cannot play one suitor against another because Payton is the one that gets to choose where he wants to go. The Saints literally have little to no leverage. Payton carries by far the most leverage, followed closely by the individual team of his choice. The Saints pull up the rear in the leverage race by a good margin.

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"the Saints have little to no leverage" fits perfectly with "the Saints suffer from too many fumbles and false starts" and "the Saints have been decimated with injuries" and "the Saints couldn't have possibly prepared to secure a Championship-Caliber Quarterback, while Drew was in decline" or "the Saints couldn't have possibly invested $60 million in something beyond turf toe" or whatever sorry excuse some fans come upon with to give dismal ownership and (mis)management of a PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL TEAM a pass.

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Is there a second verse to this same old song? :rolleyes:

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Yes. SAM FREAKING DARNOLD. LOL

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900

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903: Tom Brady (did you see him last night?) x 2