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turbo_dog 01-24-2023 01:26 PM

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That mystery team has to be Dallas, right?

AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 01:43 PM

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That mystery team has to be Dallas, right?

The Colts. They are the only other team actively searching for a head coach.

AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 01:48 PM

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voodooido 01-24-2023 02:25 PM

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I’m hoping Dallas steals him. They always seem to overpay for players

K Major 01-24-2023 02:30 PM

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I’m hoping Dallas steals him. They always seem to overpay for players

McCarthy isn't getting fired though :bng:...

AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 02:48 PM

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I’m hoping Dallas steals him. They always seem to overpay for players

McCarthy isn't going anywhere or he would have already been gone. Jerry isn't one to hide in the weeds. If he was interested in making the move I would imagine there would have been all sorts of pomp and circumstance.

AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 02:57 PM

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Then again, Stephen and Jerry have both cancelled their radio shows yesterday and today so something may be going on. They haven't been given permission to speak with Payton, however, or that would have been released by the league, I'm sure, as part of the protocol.


AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 05:02 PM

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Denver is all in if Payton wants to coach this year.


SmashMouth 01-24-2023 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 968226)
Denver is all in if Payton wants to coach this year.

https://twitter.com/JohnJHendrix/sta...06017937219584

Panties want him too, pretty bad.

We can get a hell of a haul from the Panties.

SmashMouth 01-24-2023 05:37 PM

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AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 05:37 PM

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Panties want him too, pretty bad.

We can get a hell of a haul from the Panties.

But does he want to go there? That's the big question. They can offer us all their picks for the next three years, but if Payton wants to chill in the Fox studios again we're **** out of luck.

jnormand 01-24-2023 05:40 PM

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I wouldn’t mind having him back. I miss SP. I hate our new coach! Boooooo!!!

SmashMouth 01-24-2023 05:41 PM

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But does he want to go there? That's the big question. They can offer us all their picks for the next three years, but if Payton wants to chill in the Fox studios again we're **** out of luck.

Well, he did interview, didn't he, on Monday with the second richest NFL team owner in the NFL.

:popcorn:

AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 05:45 PM

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Well, he did interview, didn't he, on Monday with the second richest NFL team owner in the NFL.

:popcorn:

Yup. He sure did. He has to do his due diligence and interview all interested teams. Every team has him undoubtedly as their #1 choice. Now he has to decide between all of them or returning to Fox and waiting for better openings next year.

Hopefully we hear a decision within the week.

SmashMouth 01-24-2023 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 968238)
Yup. He sure did. He has to do his due diligence and interview all interested teams. Every team has him undoubtedly as their #1 choice. Now he has to decide between all of them or returning to Fox and waiting for better openings next year.

Hopefully we hear a decision within the week.

He wanted GB the first time around. He "settled" for the Saints. He's not settling now, except the markets you may be alluding to may still not be available next year. There are only 32 teams, therefore 32 HC opportunities. They are all good, to a certain extend. It'll be this year and the Saints will have a voice in where, as they should.

AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 06:12 PM

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He wanted GB the first time around. He "settled" for the Saints. He's not settling now, except the markets you may be alluding to may still not be available next year. There are only 32 teams, therefore 32 HC opportunities. They are all good, to a certain extend. It'll be this year and the Saints will have a voice in where, as they should.

I hope you are right, but I honestly feel you aren't. It is pretty much a consensus out there that the decision is all his and then it's up to the Saints to get their best deal from that team.

Don't forget that Payton is getting paid more than 75% of all NFL coaches right now working a fraction of the time at Fox. He doesn't have to do anything until he is ready. He can wait until his contract is up.

Once again, I hope like hell that we get something out of this sooner rather than later. But I'm expecting no more than a 1st and two or three other picks whenever it does happen.

SmashMouth 01-24-2023 06:27 PM

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I hope you are right, but I honestly feel you aren't. It is pretty much a consensus out there that the decision is all his and then it's up to the Saints to get their best deal from that team.

Don't forget that Payton is getting paid more than 75% of all NFL coaches right now working a fraction of the time at Fox. He doesn't have to do anything until he is ready. He can wait until his contract is up.

Once again, I hope like hell that we get something out of this sooner rather than later. But I'm expecting no more than a 1st and two or three other picks whenever it does happen.

May be just me, but not sure many other owners besides Denver and Carolina will pay the $20-25 million a year he seeks and almost got at Miami.

SmashMouth 01-24-2023 06:36 PM

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AsylumGuido 01-24-2023 06:44 PM

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May be just me, but not sure many other owners besides Denver and Carolina will pay the $20-25 million a year he seeks and almost got at Miami.

I agree with this. That just narrows his choices down to those two if that means that much to him. I think he's more concerned with how much control he has and what he has to work with as far as picks and personnel.

Just thought of this, these owners are probably paying the CEO's of their corporations $50 million a year or more. $20-$25 million isn't that much in their scheme of things.

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 08:22 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 08:26 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 11:11 AM

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Broncos have zeroed in on Sean Payton, but there’s one potential holdup

By Michael Gallagher | Last updated 1/24/23

There’s no question that after the failings of Vance Joseph, Vic Fangio and Nathaniel Hackett, the Denver Broncos want to hit a home run with their next head coaching hire.

And according to a report from Fox Sports’ Colin Cowherd, the Broncos reportedly want to hire Sean Payton. Quarterback Russell Wilson has even reportedly told Broncos owners that Payton is the coach he wants.

But according to Broncos insider Mike Klis of 9News, even if Payton accepts the job, the real question is can Denver afford the former AP NFL Coach of the Year?

“[The Broncos] have a budget; I do not think that they’re going to go $25M and I don’t think they’re going to get into a bidding thing.” Klis said during a recent radio interview with 104.3 The Fan. “It comes down to, ‘Do you want the job or not? And do you want it because of money or do you want it because you want to be a head coach and win that second Super Bowl and help this franchise here in Denver?’”

NFL analyst Jordan Schultz of The Score has suggested Payton’s price tag could be higher than what the Broncos might feel comfortable dishing out.

“[Payton] wants at least $20M a year,” Schultz said. “But that’s also the going rate for a top tier head coach.”

Payton is likely looking to top the list of the highest-paid head coaches in the NFL in 2023, which include New England’s Bill Belichick ($20M per year), Seattle’s Pete Carroll ($15M per year) and Los Angeles’ Sean McVay ($14M per year), according to Pro Football Network.



saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 11:22 AM

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I was told there is no such thing as bidding for a coach's services.

I'd like to speak with the manager.

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 11:31 AM

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I was told there is no such thing as bidding for a coach's services.

I'd like to speak with the manager.

The article is referring to a team's compensation to Payton in the terms of bidding, not compensation to the Saints for the rights to Payton. Two dramatically different things. I never said there couldn't or wouldn't be bidding for Payton's services. Quite the contrary, I've insisted that this is where the only bidding would take place.

“[The Broncos] have a budget; I do not think that they’re going to go $25M and I don’t think they’re going to get into a bidding thing.” Klis said during a recent radio interview with 104.3 The Fan. “It comes down to, ‘Do you want the job or not? And do you want it because of money or do you want it because you want to be a head coach and win that second Super Bowl and help this franchise here in Denver?’”

If Payton finally feels that one of the "bidder's" offer is acceptable then it moves on to the discussion of terms for the rights between that team and the Saints. At that point there will be no bidding, just negotiating.

saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 01:05 PM

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uh-huh

shawnkytonk 01-25-2023 01:43 PM

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I've been listening to 104.3 the Fan here in Denver the past 2 days. All the talk has been about the souring on Payton and the interest now in Demeco Ryans and David Shaw. Looks like the asking price is driving people away compiled with his salary demands. I wouldn't be surprised if he went back to FOX.

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 02:08 PM

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I've been listening to 104.3 the Fan here in Denver the past 2 days. All the talk has been about the souring on Payton and the interest now in Demeco Ryans and David Shaw. Looks like the asking price is driving people away compiled with his salary demands. I wouldn't be surprised if he went back to FOX.

They are likely thinking that going with Quinn, or someone else, and keeping all of their picks is better than getting Payton while giving up their late 1st and a couple of others picks.

If all of the teams sour on his salary or power demands it may never really get to the stage where the Saints can even try to negotiate picks.

And I agree, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he just waits another year. He's making high end coaching pay right now with his TV gig working 10 hours a week instead of 100 hours as a coach. He can afford to wait.

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 02:30 PM

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saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 02:42 PM

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The Walton group scared of a salary? Right...

saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 02:44 PM

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Everyone relax.

Saints didn't officially name DA as head coach until February 7th and he'd been with the organization 16 years!!

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 02:45 PM

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The Walton group scared of a salary? Right...

They probably got to where they are by not overpaying. Perhaps they're just having second thoughts about forking over a 1st rounder for a coach. Who knows.

saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 02:49 PM

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They probably got to where they are by not overpaying. Perhaps they're just having second thoughts about forking over a 1st rounder for a coach. Who knows.

Oooooh yeah! By not overpaying for the new front-office QB, right?

LOL

SmashMouth 01-25-2023 02:49 PM

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Everyone relax.

Saints didn't officially name DA as head coach until February 7th and he'd been with the organization 16 years!!

Exactly.... I think we'll begin to see any kind of movement after this weekend's games.

Patience young whippersnappers ! :bng:

SmashMouth 01-25-2023 02:55 PM

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Does SP even need a second interview anyway? Methinks his body of work speaks for itself. Most of the other candidates prolly need a little more vetting, IMHO.

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 02:55 PM

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Oooooh yeah! By not overpaying for the new front-office QB, right?

LOL

Perhaps they learned their lesson. LOL!

saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 03:05 PM

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I've quit following the drama.

Teams have a good idea of who they want and what their comp ceiling is for each scenario.

SP made the rounds. Now teams are doing diligence on other candidates.

Don't get caught up in media speculation.

But IF two teams circle back to Loomis about compensation, you best believe he'll pit them against each other for a more assets.

SmashMouth 01-25-2023 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 968281)
I've quit following the drama.

Teams have a good idea of who they want and what their comp ceiling is for each scenario.

SP made the rounds. Now teams are doing diligence on other candidates.

Don't get caught up in media speculation.

But IF two teams circle back to Loomis about compensation, you best believe he'll pit them against each other for a more assets.

Exactly... two teams and a mystery team, presumably. :chef:

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 968281)
I've quit following the drama.

Teams have a good idea of who they want and what their comp ceiling is for each scenario.

SP made the rounds. Now teams are doing diligence on other candidates.

Don't get caught up in media speculation.

But IF two teams circle back to Loomis about compensation, you best believe he'll pit them against each other for a more assets.

Yup. And then they tell Payton he just has to go to the one they want him to go to. Got it. He's going to leave the decision up to the Saints. Okay.

saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 03:17 PM

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Yup. And then they tell Payton he just has to go to the one they want him to go to. Got it. He's going to leave the decision up to the Saints. Okay.

I've never stated that and you know it.

saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 03:18 PM

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Exactly... two teams and a mystery team, presumably. :chef:

ooooohhhh. An "mystery team".... guess I'll have to stay tuned in through this commercial break - brought to you by Phizer.


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