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SmashMouth 01-25-2023 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 968290)
ooooohhhh. An "mystery team".... guess I'll have to stay tuned in through this commercial break - brought to you by Phizer.

Brought to you by Jurruh ... at least that's one of the rumors, FWIW. KMajor knows it well living in the area. :p

K Major 01-25-2023 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 968290)
ooooohhhh. An "mystery team".... guess I'll have to stay tuned in through this commercial break - brought to you by Phizer.

Lol !

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 968289)
I've never stated that and you know it.

Wait. If the Saints don't have the final say in the decision on where Payton goes what leverage do they have to pit the two teams against each other? Payton doesn't give a crap what the Saints get in compensation. In fact, the more they get the less he has as assets with his new team. :confused:

saintsfan1976 01-25-2023 03:26 PM

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hmmm circular reasoning. I may need to consult ChatGPT to keep up with your "logic"

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 968296)
hmmm circular reasoning. I may need to consult ChatGPT to keep up with your "logic"

Not my logic. Not at all. I was attempting to understand yours. I'm sticking with ...

1) The Saints give permission to teams to talk to Payton if they agreed to lowest level of compensation

2) Payton and those teams then feel each other out to determine mutual interest

3) Interested teams make an offer to Payton

4) Payton decides which offer he wishes to accept or whether he wants to return to Fox instead

5) If Payton wishes to accept an offer, the acquiring team and the Saints negotiate final terms of compensation for rights to Payton

Note: I cannot see the scenario where Payton does not care which of two offers he accepts and allows the Saints and those two offering teams to enter into some sort of bid war to determine where he goes. Nor can I see the scenario of two teams willing to bid against each other for his rights if Payton cannot make up his mind where he wants to go.

My logic isn't circular at all. Very linear.

SmashMouth 01-25-2023 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 968296)
hmmm circular reasoning. I may need to consult ChatGPT to keep up with your "logic"

To be fair, I am uncertain how mamy folks even understand what ChatGPT even is ! :rofl:

K Major 01-25-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 968300)
To be fair, I am uncertain how mamy folks even understand what ChatGPT even is ! :rofl:

My teenage daughter is an Influencer/Content creator for Amazon and when she first used that word in conversation, I was like "what the hell is a ChatGPT?" :mad: :confused:

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 968300)
To be fair, I am uncertain how mamy folks even understand what ChatGPT even is ! :rofl:

Dialog generation software. Pretty cool, but dangerous in that it doesn't necessarily use sufficiently supported arguments. But, then again, neither does most of its human counterparts. LOL!

SmashMouth 01-25-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 968301)
My teenage daughter is an Influencer/Content creator for Amazon and when she first used that word in conversation, I was like "what the hell is a ChatGPT?" :mad: :confused:

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 968302)
Dialog generation software. Pretty cool, but dangerous in that it doesn't necessarily use sufficiently supported arguments. But, then again, neither does most of its human counterparts. LOL!

I read somewhere it was used to successfully pass some sort of law examination.

Other exams as well.... Holy Cow!

:awe:

AsylumGuido 01-25-2023 04:06 PM

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Yup. It is pretty fascinating. Read the same things about it. A couple of them pointed out the unsupported facts flaw at this point that I mentioned.

SmashMouth 01-25-2023 08:55 PM

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saintsfan1976 01-26-2023 07:22 AM

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Whaddya know - a new day, a BRAND NEW news cycle narrative on Sean Payton. This time (!) wait for it.... he's "definitely more likely than not" to return to Fox.

GASP!!!

AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 07:58 AM

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Let's not forget that Sean Payton said himself that a return to Fox was most likely before the interviews even started.

This from an interview over 18 days ago ...

When asked about his odds of returning to the FOX studio in 2023 on a scale of one to ten, Payton responded “Seven,” with a straight face. So he’s more likely to stay in the studio than return to a sideline.

AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 08:03 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 08:06 AM

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SmashMouth 01-26-2023 08:34 AM

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...oaches-so-far/

:popcorn:



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SmashMouth 01-26-2023 08:54 AM

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K Major 01-26-2023 09:30 AM

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Dallas isn't an option for Sean Payton.

Besides, isn't Mike and Sean essentially the same HC? If Dallas were even interested in firing their coach, Dan Quinn is next in line for that job.

SmashMouth 01-26-2023 11:01 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 968318)

The senior Walton is away on a hunting trip and wants to be in on the next interview from what I heard. I wonder if that's what he's talking about?

AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 11:10 AM

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I've always been of the mind that there's no way Payton and Jones could coexist with the control that Payton demands and the control that the Jones' have always been so reluctant to relinquish. Maybe they are getting desperate enough to make that move. But, as much as they love their draft picks that's going to be a sticking point, as well.

AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 11:16 AM

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AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 11:22 AM

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And then there's this on the Cowboys front. I believe that Dallas would have to clear it through the league that they have permission from the Saints before making any contact with Payton. This is what cost Miami a first round pick this year.


UK_WhoDat 01-26-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 968312)

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In unrelated (or not) developments, Sean Payton’s candidacy with the four teams that had expressed interest in his services seems to have become bogged down, by something.
followed by in the comments:
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milehigh777 says:
January 26, 2023 at 7:41 am

Reportedly (ESPN radiio), NOrleans wants a first and two thirds from Denver for Payton and Denver said no and are pursuing other candidates.
:brood:

Rugby Saint II 01-26-2023 12:59 PM

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The New Orleans Saints are in such a deep hole that they desperately need Sean Payton to take a job this year. Let's just hope he doesn't take Jeff Ireland with him.

NOLA54 01-26-2023 01:05 PM

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It seems no team wants Payton because of draft picks they would have give. He should come back to the Saints. Maybe that's why Loomis is keeping Allen and Carmichael.

K Major 01-26-2023 01:08 PM

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Frank Reich hired as the new Carolina Panthers Head Coach.

Source

K Major 01-26-2023 01:29 PM

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Frank is a solid hire for the Panthers.

The NFC South just got a little bit tougher.

dizzle88 01-26-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 968334)
It seems no team wants Payton because of draft picks they would have give. He should come back to the Saints. Maybe that's why Loomis is keeping Allen and Carmichael.

Which seems bizarre considering Loomis said "every team asking about Payton is aware of the compensation required to get him."

Now all of a sudden teams are acting like this is new information.

neugey 01-26-2023 01:52 PM

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With Reich off the market, I feel like there's a bit more impetus on Denver to land CSP.

SmashMouth 01-26-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 968342)
Frank is a solid hire for the Panthers.

The NFC South just got a little bit tougher.

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 968347)
With Reich off the market, I feel like there's a bit more impetus on Denver to land CSP.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...e-for-broncos/

SmashMouth 01-26-2023 02:15 PM

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K Major 01-26-2023 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 968348)

So is that 1st rounder from Denver still on the table for SP?

I'd take that #1, get SP out of the NFC & let's geaux.

Make it happen Loomis :bng:

saintsfan1976 01-26-2023 02:49 PM

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A 1 and two 3s for Sean Payton?

The Waltons should know "value" when they see it. LOL

K Major 01-26-2023 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 968355)
A 1 and two 3s for Sean Payton?

The Waltons should know "value" when they see it. LOL

Honestly 76', I'd take that all day.

AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 968346)
Which seems bizarre considering Loomis said "every team asking about Payton is aware of the compensation required to get him."

Now all of a sudden teams are acting like this is new information.

I believe it's the other way around. It's fans of the team trying to save face saying that their team thinks the compensation is too high. The teams themselves haven't said anything. As Pat Kirwan said today on NFL Radio, if he was Payton he wouldn't take any of these positions and wait for something better next year. I believe Payton told Carolina and at least a couple of others he wasn't interested.

AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 03:12 PM

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Yup. It sounds like Payton doesn't like the way one of the Broncos' owners came across. Payton isn't taking any job that he doesn't absolutely love. He's got a gravy job that he really likes right now so he can afford to wait.


AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 03:15 PM

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neugey 01-26-2023 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 968360)


Pro tip: garnish all menu items with Juicy Fruit.

AsylumGuido 01-26-2023 04:26 PM

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