What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB?

SmashMouth · 02-28-2023, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

In my mind it's
A. Carr for anything under $35MM/yr + Dalton + draft a Rookie in round 2-3
or
B. Dalton + Draft a Rookie you like as early as you want
or
C. Dalton + Get aggressive for a Rookie in the draft

You are prolly not wrong... but remember Jameis and the Saints hid an injury, a broken back no less. If he's truly healthy now, he has to be considered. He's cheap, QB wise, and under contract.

If we suck worse, we'll be in better position for another QB in the 2024 draft for what is considered a much richer QB draft. If we get lucky with Hooker or some other QB in the draft this year, than it's that much better for us next year.

AsylumGuido · 02-28-2023, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

You are prolly not wrong... but remember Jameis and the Saints hid an injury, a broken back no less. If he's truly healthy now, he has to be considered. He's cheap, QB wise, and under contract.

If we suck worse, we'll be in better position for another QB in the 2024 draft for what is considered a much richer QB draft. If we get lucky with Hooker or some other QB in the draft this year, than it's that much better for us next year.

Hid an injury? I believe you are very mistaken, Smash. The back injury (transverse process fractures) was public knowledge immediately after the injury occurred. There were comparisons to the exact same injury suffered by Tony Romo and others. Here's an article referencing the back injury before the week two game against the Bucs on September 18.

Glazer: Saints QB Jameis Winston Has 4 Fractures in Back; No Risk of Further Injury

ERIN WALSH
SEPTEMBER 18, 2022

New Orleans Saints quarterback Jameis Winston is set to play Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with four fractures in his back, per Fox's Jay Glazer.

Winston is in "a lot of pain" and will be wearing extra padding to protect the area, Glazer added. Jeff Duncan of NOLA.com also noted the veteran signal-caller has been in pain "all week."

Winston took a hit in the fourth quarter of a Week 1 win over the Atlanta Falcons and was checked out in the medical tent before returning to the Saints bench. After the game, he said he was in pain.

When asked where the pain was, Winston responded: "Just pain. It was pain everywhere."

The 28-year-old, who was limited in practice all week, was initially listed for Sunday's matchup as questionable with a back injury. He told reporters Wednesday (h/t ProFootballTalk's Josh Alper) that he was still "getting over some first game soreness."

Winston has been riddled by injuries over the last two seasons.

SmashMouth · 02-28-2023, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Hid an injury? I believe you are very mistaken, Smash. The back injury (transverse process fractures) was public knowledge immediately after the injury occurred. There were comparisons to the exact same injury suffered by Tony Romo and others. Here's an article referencing the back injury before the week two game against the Bucs on September 18.

Glazer: Saints QB Jameis Winston Has 4 Fractures in Back; No Risk of Further Injury

ERIN WALSH
SEPTEMBER 18, 2022

New Orleans Saints quarterback Jameis Winston is set to play Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with four fractures in his back, per Fox's Jay Glazer.

Winston is in "a lot of pain" and will be wearing extra padding to protect the area, Glazer added. Jeff Duncan of NOLA.com also noted the veteran signal-caller has been in pain "all week."

Winston took a hit in the fourth quarter of a Week 1 win over the Atlanta Falcons and was checked out in the medical tent before returning to the Saints bench. After the game, he said he was in pain.

When asked where the pain was, Winston responded: "Just pain. It was pain everywhere."

The 28-year-old, who was limited in practice all week, was initially listed for Sunday's matchup as questionable with a back injury. He told reporters Wednesday (h/t ProFootballTalk's Josh Alper) that he was still "getting over some first game soreness."

Winston has been riddled by injuries over the last two seasons.

Yes, the injury precedes this report. Jameis admitted recently that it was concealed.

AsylumGuido · 02-28-2023, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Yes, the injury precedes this report. Jameis admitted recently that it was concealed.

Concealed from who and when? The fact that he had suffered four fractures to the lower back area on September 11th was known by everyone later the very next week prior to the Tampa Bay game on September 18th. That article was published within days of the injury. Dr. David Chou was on NFL Radio that same week talking about Winston's fractures. He was the one comparing the injury to Romo's. The Saints did a damned crappy job of concealing something by immediately reporting it to the press. LOL!

I believe you are simply mistaken, Smash, about what Winston supposedly admitted recently. Or more likely, the source that you got that totally erroneous information from was wrong.

Edit: What might have been being referred to was that the team concealed the fact that it was a back injury from the Falcons during the game after leaving the blue tent. Now that would be accurate and make sense. That's probably where the confusuion lies.

02-28-2023, 10:44 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,977 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 In my mind it's A. Carr for anything under $35MM/yr + Dalton + draft a Rookie in round 2-3 or B. Dalton + Draft a Rookie you like as early as you want or C. Dalton + Get aggressive for a Rookie in the draft You are prolly not wrong... but remember Jameis and the Saints hid an injury, a broken back no less. If he's truly healthy now, he has to be considered. He's cheap, QB wise, and under contract. If we suck worse, we'll be in better position for another QB in the 2024 draft for what is considered a much richer QB draft. If we get lucky with Hooker or some other QB in the draft this year, than it's that much better for us next year.

02-28-2023, 11:29 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth You are prolly not wrong... but remember Jameis and the Saints hid an injury, a broken back no less. If he's truly healthy now, he has to be considered. He's cheap, QB wise, and under contract. If we suck worse, we'll be in better position for another QB in the 2024 draft for what is considered a much richer QB draft. If we get lucky with Hooker or some other QB in the draft this year, than it's that much better for us next year. Hid an injury? I believe you are very mistaken, Smash. The back injury (transverse process fractures) was public knowledge immediately after the injury occurred. There were comparisons to the exact same injury suffered by Tony Romo and others. Here's an article referencing the back injury before the week two game against the Bucs on September 18. Glazer: Saints QB Jameis Winston Has 4 Fractures in Back; No Risk of Further Injury ERIN WALSH SEPTEMBER 18, 2022 New Orleans Saints quarterback Jameis Winston is set to play Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with four fractures in his back, per Fox's Jay Glazer. Winston is in "a lot of pain" and will be wearing extra padding to protect the area, Glazer added. Jeff Duncan of NOLA.com also noted the veteran signal-caller has been in pain "all week." Winston took a hit in the fourth quarter of a Week 1 win over the Atlanta Falcons and was checked out in the medical tent before returning to the Saints bench. After the game, he said he was in pain. When asked where the pain was, Winston responded: "Just pain. It was pain everywhere." The 28-year-old, who was limited in practice all week, was initially listed for Sunday's matchup as questionable with a back injury. He told reporters Wednesday (h/t ProFootballTalk's Josh Alper) that he was still "getting over some first game soreness." Winston has been riddled by injuries over the last two seasons.
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02-28-2023, 12:11 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,977 Blog Entries: 29	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Hid an injury? I believe you are very mistaken, Smash. The back injury (transverse process fractures) was public knowledge immediately after the injury occurred. There were comparisons to the exact same injury suffered by Tony Romo and others. Here's an article referencing the back injury before the week two game against the Bucs on September 18. Glazer: Saints QB Jameis Winston Has 4 Fractures in Back; No Risk of Further Injury ERIN WALSH SEPTEMBER 18, 2022 New Orleans Saints quarterback Jameis Winston is set to play Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with four fractures in his back, per Fox's Jay Glazer. Winston is in "a lot of pain" and will be wearing extra padding to protect the area, Glazer added. Jeff Duncan of NOLA.com also noted the veteran signal-caller has been in pain "all week." Winston took a hit in the fourth quarter of a Week 1 win over the Atlanta Falcons and was checked out in the medical tent before returning to the Saints bench. After the game, he said he was in pain. When asked where the pain was, Winston responded: "Just pain. It was pain everywhere." The 28-year-old, who was limited in practice all week, was initially listed for Sunday's matchup as questionable with a back injury. He told reporters Wednesday (h/t ProFootballTalk's Josh Alper) that he was still "getting over some first game soreness." Winston has been riddled by injuries over the last two seasons. Yes, the injury precedes this report. Jameis admitted recently that it was concealed.

02-28-2023, 12:23 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: What should the Saints’ plan be to upgrade at QB? Originally Posted by SmashMouth Yes, the injury precedes this report. Jameis admitted recently that it was concealed. Concealed from who and when? The fact that he had suffered four fractures to the lower back area on September 11th was known by everyone later the very next week prior to the Tampa Bay game on September 18th. That article was published within days of the injury. Dr. David Chou was on NFL Radio that same week talking about Winston's fractures. He was the one comparing the injury to Romo's. The Saints did a damned crappy job of concealing something by immediately reporting it to the press. LOL! I believe you are simply mistaken, Smash, about what Winston supposedly admitted recently. Or more likely, the source that you got that totally erroneous information from was wrong. Edit: What might have been being referred to was that the team concealed the fact that it was a back injury from the Falcons during the game after leaving the blue tent. Now that would be accurate and make sense. That's probably where the confusuion lies.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill