2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp

AsylumGuido · 08-06-2023, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I like all three.

I think what they saw in Jackson alone made Elliss expendable. Before this past season Elliss had been seen by many around here and elsewhere as a bit of a bust. He stepped into Werner's role and looked pretty decent. There's really no reason why Jackson, Anderson, or Orji couldn't do the same, if needed, and for a lot less money than Elliss got on the free agent market. I'm also curious to see how Elliss responds to moving from Dennis Allen's 4-2 front to Atlanta's 3-4. The same can be said for Onyemata taking over as NT in that same 3-4.

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Rugby Saint II · 08-06-2023, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I think what they saw in Jackson alone made Elliss expendable. Before this past season Elliss had been seen by many around here and elsewhere as a bit of a bust. He stepped into Werner's role and looked pretty decent. There's really no reason why Jackson, Anderson, or Orji couldn't do the same, if needed, and for a lot less money than Elliss got on the free agent market. I'm also curious to see how Elliss responds to moving from Dennis Allen's 4-2 front to Atlanta's 3-4. The same can be said for Onyemata taking over as NT in that same 3-4.

We think we know but we don't know what the insiders know. We have typically drafted well under Ireland in the middle to late rounds, where you find players who slipped down, and have good position coaches. I strongly believe that we need to develop these young players rather than rushing them off the roster for a vet who has already reached his ceiling. Unlike DD, who came into his own in and blossomed in New Orleans.

BTW. Is Onyamata built to play DT in a 3-4? I thought you needed a space eater there.

AsylumGuido · 08-06-2023, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We think we know but we don't know what the insiders know. We have typically drafted well under Ireland in the middle to late rounds, where you find players who slipped down, and have good position coaches. I strongly believe that we need to develop these young players rather than rushing them off the roster for a vet who has already reached his ceiling. Unlike DD, who came into his own in and blossomed in New Orleans.

BTW. Is Onyamata built to play DT in a 3-4? I thought you needed a space eater there.

He and Ellis may both be square pegs in the Failclown's round bung hole.

rezburna · 08-06-2023, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We think we know but we don't know what the insiders know. We have typically drafted well under Ireland in the middle to late rounds, where you find players who slipped down, and have good position coaches. I strongly believe that we need to develop these young players rather than rushing them off the roster for a vet who has already reached his ceiling. Unlike DD, who came into his own in and blossomed in New Orleans.

BTW. Is Onyamata built to play DT in a 3-4? I thought you needed a space eater there.

Nah. He’s more of a 3-4 DE.

AsylumGuido · 08-06-2023, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Nah. He’s more of a 3-4 DE.

Yeah. They have Calais Campbell plugged in there. They're running Onyemata at NT from what I'm seeing. And they have Grady Jarrett at DT.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I think what they saw in Jackson alone made Elliss expendable. Before this past season Elliss had been seen by many around here and elsewhere as a bit of a bust. He stepped into Werner's role and looked pretty decent. There's really no reason why Jackson, Anderson, or Orji couldn't do the same, if needed, and for a lot less money than Elliss got on the free agent market. I'm also curious to see how Elliss responds to moving from Dennis Allen's 4-2 front to Atlanta's 3-4. The same can be said for Onyemata taking over as NT in that same 3-4. We think we know but we don't know what the insiders know. We have typically drafted well under Ireland in the middle to late rounds, where you find players who slipped down, and have good position coaches. I strongly believe that we need to develop these young players rather than rushing them off the roster for a vet who has already reached his ceiling. Unlike DD, who came into his own in and blossomed in New Orleans. BTW. Is Onyamata built to play DT in a 3-4? I thought you needed a space eater there.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We think we know but we don't know what the insiders know. We have typically drafted well under Ireland in the middle to late rounds, where you find players who slipped down, and have good position coaches. I strongly believe that we need to develop these young players rather than rushing them off the roster for a vet who has already reached his ceiling. Unlike DD, who came into his own in and blossomed in New Orleans. BTW. Is Onyamata built to play DT in a 3-4? I thought you needed a space eater there. He and Ellis may both be square pegs in the Failclown's round bung hole. turbo_dog likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We think we know but we don't know what the insiders know. We have typically drafted well under Ireland in the middle to late rounds, where you find players who slipped down, and have good position coaches. I strongly believe that we need to develop these young players rather than rushing them off the roster for a vet who has already reached his ceiling. Unlike DD, who came into his own in and blossomed in New Orleans. BTW. Is Onyamata built to play DT in a 3-4? I thought you needed a space eater there. Nah. He’s more of a 3-4 DE. Rsanders24 likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Originally Posted by rezburna Nah. He’s more of a 3-4 DE. Yeah. They have Calais Campbell plugged in there. They're running Onyemata at NT from what I'm seeing. And they have Grady Jarrett at DT.