Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion

CheramieIII · 03-14-2024, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Saints organization have hitched their wagons to Derek Carr for the forseeable future.

Mr. career 72-87 as a pro QB .

I would have to agree, but when DA is fired it will change!

AsylumGuido · 03-15-2024, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

I would have to agree, but when DA is fired it will change!

They're not firing him when we win the Lombardi this year. That would be foolish.

BakoSaint · 03-15-2024, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They're not firing him when we win the Lombardi this year. That would be foolish.

Especially with the other 31 head coaches and staff whose planes all crashed head on into each other. At that point we would not be able to attract a better candidate than DA with at least 20 teams and several coordinator and staff positions being more attractive to the available candidates.

Sinner · 03-15-2024, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They're not firing him when we win the Lombardi this year. That would be foolish.

As soon as you finish mopping up the refurbished restrooms at the dome, take care of that troll chow you just spilled. Thanks.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-15-2024, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

I think we should consider trading a couple of 5th round picks to the Bears for Fields! Nothing to lose and plenty of upside! He has nowhere else to go right now!

Um, what about the $28 million he would need to be paid?

SFIAH

BakoSaint · 03-14-2024, 11:59 AM

If the organization has hitched its wagons to the Titanic, its wagons are now submarines.

As an organization we can roll over $50 million potential dead cap hits year to year on a league average QB, trade picks to prepare for a potential transition to a younger more affordable mobile QB with lots of risk but high ceiling, or pay $10m+ a year to an aging wildcat QB, but doing all at once is nonsense. If we traded for Fields he would have to be either an option to take over for Carr or an extra weapon wildcat formations, but that makes no sense when we borrowing heavily against Carr's contract to commit ourselves futher to Carr where exiting would force a major rebuild and we already have $10m committed at the wildcat QB spot with Hill.

The only way it would make sense to take on Fields even as a cheap short term backup would be if we moved on from Hill. This would both create a role for Fields to be utilized while Carr is still the starter, and clear up salary cap long term for if we ever did want to transition from Carr to Fields.

I don't think Fields is a high end starting QB in the NFL but if we didn't have Hill I would not oppose him as a backup if he came cheap and the cost was later refunded in comp picks or trade.

BakoSaint · 03-14-2024, 12:46 PM

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...gn-with-saints

Hopefully Peterman is more of a 3rd /4th QB to fill the Book / Bortles role in camp. I dont think he is a credible #2 QB in the NFL and he is not even young anymore and I would feel more comfortable with Haener or Hill under center, but we need camp players. I think/hope the articles reporting him as a replacement for Winston are wrong, we may replace Winston internally, or in the draft, but Peterman is not Winston, he is Bortles.

There is actually a principle named after him I believe.

AsylumGuido · 03-14-2024, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...gn-with-saints

Hopefully Peterman is more of a 3rd /4th QB to fill the Book / Bortles role in camp. I dont think he is a credible #2 QB in the NFL and he is not even young anymore and I would feel more comfortable with Haener or Hill under center, but we need camp players. I think/hope the articles reporting him as a replacement for Winston are wrong, we may replace Winston internally, or in the draft, but Peterman is not Winston, he is Bortles.

There is actually a principle named after him I believe.

Yes, The Nathan Principle. “Always on the side of right”.

Danno · 03-14-2024, 01:17 PM

Peterman spent the last two seasons with the Bears and he made one start during the 2022 season. Current Saints quarterbacks coach Andrew Janocko had the same job on the Bears staff during those campaigns and that familiarity likely helped bring Peterman to New Orleans.

Camp body

MatthewT · 03-14-2024, 02:17 PM

Peterman sucks, if Haener can't beat him out then he needs to be cut.

03-14-2024, 08:21 PM	#1
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by K Major The Saints organization have hitched their wagons to Derek Carr for the forseeable future. Mr. career 72-87 as a pro QB . I would have to agree, but when DA is fired it will change!

03-15-2024, 10:02 AM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,379	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They're not firing him when we win the Lombardi this year. That would be foolish. Especially with the other 31 head coaches and staff whose planes all crashed head on into each other. At that point we would not be able to attract a better candidate than DA with at least 20 teams and several coordinator and staff positions being more attractive to the available candidates.
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03-15-2024, 12:19 PM	#4
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They're not firing him when we win the Lombardi this year. That would be foolish. As soon as you finish mopping up the refurbished restrooms at the dome, take care of that troll chow you just spilled. Thanks.
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03-15-2024, 11:52 AM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by CheramieIII I think we should consider trading a couple of 5th round picks to the Bears for Fields! Nothing to lose and plenty of upside! He has nowhere else to go right now! Um, what about the $28 million he would need to be paid? SFIAH

03-14-2024, 11:59 AM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,379	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion If the organization has hitched its wagons to the Titanic, its wagons are now submarines. As an organization we can roll over $50 million potential dead cap hits year to year on a league average QB, trade picks to prepare for a potential transition to a younger more affordable mobile QB with lots of risk but high ceiling, or pay $10m+ a year to an aging wildcat QB, but doing all at once is nonsense. If we traded for Fields he would have to be either an option to take over for Carr or an extra weapon wildcat formations, but that makes no sense when we borrowing heavily against Carr's contract to commit ourselves futher to Carr where exiting would force a major rebuild and we already have $10m committed at the wildcat QB spot with Hill. The only way it would make sense to take on Fields even as a cheap short term backup would be if we moved on from Hill. This would both create a role for Fields to be utilized while Carr is still the starter, and clear up salary cap long term for if we ever did want to transition from Carr to Fields. I don't think Fields is a high end starting QB in the NFL but if we didn't have Hill I would not oppose him as a backup if he came cheap and the cost was later refunded in comp picks or trade.
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03-15-2024, 09:13 AM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,606	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by CheramieIII I would have to agree, but when DA is fired it will change! They're not firing him when we win the Lombardi this year. That would be foolish.

03-14-2024, 12:46 PM	#7
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,379	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...gn-with-saints Hopefully Peterman is more of a 3rd /4th QB to fill the Book / Bortles role in camp. I dont think he is a credible #2 QB in the NFL and he is not even young anymore and I would feel more comfortable with Haener or Hill under center, but we need camp players. I think/hope the articles reporting him as a replacement for Winston are wrong, we may replace Winston internally, or in the draft, but Peterman is not Winston, he is Bortles. There is actually a principle named after him I believe.
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03-14-2024, 04:53 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,606	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by BakoSaint https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...gn-with-saints Hopefully Peterman is more of a 3rd /4th QB to fill the Book / Bortles role in camp. I dont think he is a credible #2 QB in the NFL and he is not even young anymore and I would feel more comfortable with Haener or Hill under center, but we need camp players. I think/hope the articles reporting him as a replacement for Winston are wrong, we may replace Winston internally, or in the draft, but Peterman is not Winston, he is Bortles. There is actually a principle named after him I believe. Yes, The Nathan Principle. “Always on the side of right”.

03-14-2024, 01:17 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Peterman spent the last two seasons with the Bears and he made one start during the 2022 season. Current Saints quarterbacks coach Andrew Janocko had the same job on the Bears staff during those campaigns and that familiarity likely helped bring Peterman to New Orleans. Camp body

03-14-2024, 02:17 PM	#10
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Peterman sucks, if Haener can't beat him out then he needs to be cut.