AsylumGuido

Bingo!

I feel the problem was that the offensive line falls under the control of the offensive coordinator and that same person ended up showing certain leadership shortcomings. Yes, as HC Allen was ultimately responsible, but given the fact that he runs the defense he needs an OC that can handle more control on that other side. I'm hoping that Kubiak can be that man and brings in what help he needs.

BakoSaint

I agree that our biggest problem on the field is offensive line. The problem is that even if we fixed that problem alone I don't think we contend with the top teams, and we are unlikely to fix that problem.

With a good offensive line Carr, is a B-level quarterback but still not a Mahomes type. To win with a B level QB we need a lights out defense.

But our offensive line is likely to be hard to fix. Ramczyk was our best or 2nd best oline last year and has a degenerative knee condition. Peat plays the most important position on our oline at Left Tackle and held up surprisingly well last year but is aging and injury prone overall, although he is our best option there unless we draft Left Tackle in the 1st round. We have limited draft picks and the least salary cap space of any team in the NFL, plus oline is very hard to address in free agency as teams typically only let go players who are aging and injury prone.

Erik McCoy is a solid Center, but its hard to build the entire oline around a center. Plus McCoy played 17 games last year but only managed 12-13 the previous two years, so there is a risk that he reverts to the mean. Cesar Ruiz was sub-mediocre for a couple years, his contract was running out and he tried harder and was a little above average, we got excited and paid him, and he returned to mediocrity once the check cleared. He is not a terrible liability but he is punching a clock out there. And at LG we have nothing, Hurst is a mediocre journeyman, if we get a new LT and move Peat back to LG then Peat is a mediocre injury prone journeyman there. And the worst answer to any of this is Penning, who will be kept in case a spark lights up, but 90% he is worse than anyone on our practice squad at any position.

So even if we go oline in the 1st round or sign a big oline in free agency, we are not one player away from a solid oline, we need to go all in to fix the oline.

But if we go all in to fix the oline and succeed, what do we have? We still have a B-level QB and that means we need a top defense to win. But then Jordan, Davis, and Lattimore are all a year older, and likely our defense regresses. Dennis Allen has put together some very defenses but still could not win it all with Brees and Payton running the offense. So to win it all with Carr, DA would need to put together his best defense ever, a Ray Lewis or Warren Sapp or Von Miller type defense. If he was ever going to do that, I see no way its now with our aging core, broken cap, and all the draft picks and free agency money going to oline. We are just too many players away to fix this without a full rebuild, even if oline is where that rebuild should start.

Cruize

Carr is tough and a competitor. With the injuries he had this season, most would have missed 2 to 6 games. His attitude greatly changed by the end of the season and he was playing well. I would like to see Milton drafted and sit behind Carr for a couple years. Dude has rare arm talent.

mapcow

I KNOW the Lions Fans feel great about the Detroit Lions, moreso, than Saints fans feel about the New Orleans Saints.... Trust me, it's true!

mapcow

... as do the 49ers fans, Chief's fans, Bills fans.... uh...is it because they suck? uhh,,, no. Saints team has that attribute all on their own though...suckage.

AsylumGuido

Sinner

Cool vibe. Now we need a new Quarterback who can WIN FOOTBALL GAMES.
And we need a new Head Coach.

K Major

This goes back to why the draft is CRUCIAL (long term success) for the Saints.

Detroit have 4, 5 guys playing like pro bowlers on rookie deals.

Campbell, LaPorta, Branch, Gibbs, Jameson Williams, St. Brown ... IMPACT PLAYERS.

Not to mention having an above average oline.

If you truly want to compete in late January & not have to "hope" and "scoreboard watch" at the end of each season, gotta start hitting in the draft and finding guys that fit in free agency.

We haven't sniffed the post season in almost 4 years now .

saintsfan1976

This team was fine before Jameis and it'll be fine after.

I don't think the "vibe" is worth the contract or the dead cap.

Rugby Saint II

Zach Baun could very well be back next year. I can't believe that they wasted him for 3 1/2 years before playing him to his strengths. Now we will probably re-sign him and be stuck with a Sam linebacker that can't cover. I hope we find his replacement this offseason who can also get after the QB.