Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion

02-05-2024, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

I KNOW the Lions Fans feel great about the Detroit Lions, moreso, than Saints fans feel about the New Orleans Saints.... Trust me, it's true!

This goes back to why the draft is CRUCIAL (long term success) for the Saints.

Detroit have 4, 5 guys playing like pro bowlers on rookie deals.

Campbell, LaPorta, Branch, Gibbs, Jameson Williams, St. Brown ... IMPACT PLAYERS.

Not to mention having an above average oline.

If you truly want to compete in late January & not have to "hope" and "scoreboard watch" at the end of each season, gotta start hitting in the draft and finding guys that fit in free agency.

We haven't sniffed the post season in almost 4 years now

.

saintsfan1976 · 02-05-2024, 12:20 PM

This team was fine before Jameis and it'll be fine after.

I don't think the "vibe" is worth the contract or the dead cap.

Mr.Riaton · 02-05-2024, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I dont expect us to be in the Super Bowl every year but what I take pleasure in is the process of a realistic plan to get there. If we went 7-10 after cleaning out the cap and came in 2nd place in the division while getting some exciting wins against division rivals with a young up and coming team and lots of cap space I would view that as part of a process toward possibly winning it all a year or two down the road and would be excited. If we went 3-14 during a rebuild and got the #1 overall pick and a new head coach i would not love the 14 losses but i would be excited about a new season with a new head coach. If the next season we went 9-8 with an affordable rookie qb, young core, and cap space I would feel the sky is the limit for the coming seasons. I want a long term plan to win it all, not this year, not every year, but some year, and any year its possible. With Brees I felt we were a threat to win it all every year, if we could make a bad defense into an average one and a a few balls bounced our way.

But what we have now does not excite me. 9-8 with all in maxxed cap trading draft picks and deferring cap dollars to 33-35 year olds into 2028 does not seem like a plan to win it all in 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, or 2028. It seems like a plan to hope to settle for 9-10 wins and one week of playoffs, best case scenario. I want to strike fear into the Chiefs or 49ers etc, if not now, down the road. I enjoy the a process too, but I enjoy the process of ambition, not contentment with medicirity. The process of ambition can start from the lowest of the low. It could be a 5 win season when you aren’t expected to win 1 because you did everything to clear the cap. But its not a process of settling. It’s not a process of saying 2nd place in the division every year is good enough because in the 1970’s we were last.

Thank you!!!
Such a simple, simple concept, yet people who have that view point come across as haters or so called fans wallowing in dispair.
I and a few of my fellow fans here are are passionate about winning and maintaining a winning culture that Sean brought here and we’ve become spoiled to. We don’t hate the Saints, we hate the way the franchise is currently being operated and come here to vent. That’s part of what this site is for! There’s no law or rules that say you have to just be positive all the time!If you choose that path, then good for you! Enjoy! But remember, just because it’s you perspective doesn’t mean it’s the only one or the right one…

Sinner · 02-05-2024, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...35838933758324

Cool vibe. Now we need a new Quarterback who can WIN FOOTBALL GAMES.
And we need a new Head Coach.

K Major · 02-06-2024, 09:59 AM

Definitely wouldn't hurt to bring guys in to COMPETE.

Saints need better depth. Niners are in the SB for a reason.

10 49ers free agents who could follow Klint Kubiak to the Saints

Jon Feliciano (OT) is definitely a better back up than Garcia.

AsylumGuido · 02-06-2024, 12:04 PM

AsylumGuido · 02-06-2024, 12:12 PM

lee909 · 02-06-2024, 03:20 PM

I'm more concerned not over extending players already past their best to make the room to sign these players than i am bringing in players. Its a multi year project to revamp this team.

AsylumGuido · 02-06-2024, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I'm more concerned not over extending players already past their best to make the room to sign these players than i am bringing in players. Its a multi year project to revamp this team.

That is, of course, if the plan was to "revamp this team". In a recent NOF video with Nick Underhill and Mike Triplett, Triplett said that isn't the direction he is expecting them to go this off-season. He said he expects them to stick with adding pieces and trying to win now.

AsylumGuido · 02-06-2024, 04:35 PM

This is why Lattimore shouldn't be going anywhere.

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02-05-2024, 11:54 AM	#51
Threaded by K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,822 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by mapcow I KNOW the Lions Fans feel great about the Detroit Lions, moreso, than Saints fans feel about the New Orleans Saints.... Trust me, it's true! This goes back to why the draft is CRUCIAL (long term success) for the Saints. Detroit have 4, 5 guys playing like pro bowlers on rookie deals. Campbell, LaPorta, Branch, Gibbs, Jameson Williams, St. Brown ... IMPACT PLAYERS. Not to mention having an above average oline. If you truly want to compete in late January & not have to "hope" and "scoreboard watch" at the end of each season, gotta start hitting in the draft and finding guys that fit in free agency. We haven't sniffed the post season in almost 4 years now . Rugby Saint II likes this.
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02-05-2024, 12:20 PM	#52
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,002 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2024 Saints Off-Season General News and Discussion This team was fine before Jameis and it'll be fine after. I don't think the "vibe" is worth the contract or the dead cap.

02-05-2024, 01:24 PM	#53
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: 2024 Saints Off-Season General News and Discussion Originally Posted by BakoSaint I dont expect us to be in the Super Bowl every year but what I take pleasure in is the process of a realistic plan to get there. If we went 7-10 after cleaning out the cap and came in 2nd place in the division while getting some exciting wins against division rivals with a young up and coming team and lots of cap space I would view that as part of a process toward possibly winning it all a year or two down the road and would be excited. If we went 3-14 during a rebuild and got the #1 overall pick and a new head coach i would not love the 14 losses but i would be excited about a new season with a new head coach. If the next season we went 9-8 with an affordable rookie qb, young core, and cap space I would feel the sky is the limit for the coming seasons. I want a long term plan to win it all, not this year, not every year, but some year, and any year its possible. With Brees I felt we were a threat to win it all every year, if we could make a bad defense into an average one and a a few balls bounced our way. But what we have now does not excite me. 9-8 with all in maxxed cap trading draft picks and deferring cap dollars to 33-35 year olds into 2028 does not seem like a plan to win it all in 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027, or 2028. It seems like a plan to hope to settle for 9-10 wins and one week of playoffs, best case scenario. I want to strike fear into the Chiefs or 49ers etc, if not now, down the road. I enjoy the a process too, but I enjoy the process of ambition, not contentment with medicirity. The process of ambition can start from the lowest of the low. It could be a 5 win season when you aren’t expected to win 1 because you did everything to clear the cap. But its not a process of settling. It’s not a process of saying 2nd place in the division every year is good enough because in the 1970’s we were last. Thank you!!! Such a simple, simple concept, yet people who have that view point come across as haters or so called fans wallowing in dispair. I and a few of my fellow fans here are are passionate about winning and maintaining a winning culture that Sean brought here and we’ve become spoiled to. We don’t hate the Saints, we hate the way the franchise is currently being operated and come here to vent. That’s part of what this site is for! There’s no law or rules that say you have to just be positive all the time!If you choose that path, then good for you! Enjoy! But remember, just because it’s you perspective doesn’t mean it’s the only one or the right one… Sinner, K Major and BakoSaint like this.

02-05-2024, 02:03 PM	#54
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,068	Re: 2024 Saints Off-Season General News and Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...35838933758324 Cool vibe. Now we need a new Quarterback who can WIN FOOTBALL GAMES. And we need a new Head Coach.
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02-06-2024, 09:59 AM	#55
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,822 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Definitely wouldn't hurt to bring guys in to COMPETE. Saints need better depth. Niners are in the SB for a reason. 10 49ers free agents who could follow Klint Kubiak to the Saints Jon Feliciano (OT) is definitely a better back up than Garcia. saintsfan1976 likes this.

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02-06-2024, 04:03 PM	#59
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,604	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by lee909 I'm more concerned not over extending players already past their best to make the room to sign these players than i am bringing in players. Its a multi year project to revamp this team. That is, of course, if the plan was to "revamp this team". In a recent NOF video with Nick Underhill and Mike Triplett, Triplett said that isn't the direction he is expecting them to go this off-season. He said he expects them to stick with adding pieces and trying to win now.

02-06-2024, 04:35 PM	#60
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,604	Re: 2024 Saints Off-Season General News and Discussion This is why Lattimore shouldn't be going anywhere. Twitter Rugby Saint II likes this.