Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves

BakoSaint · 03-08-2025, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

IF the Saints keep Carr, I will advocate for signing Davante Adams to a 2 year deal. Yes, he's 32 but clearly still got enough to be a solid contributor as a mid to lower tier #1 WR.

Let's estimate a 2yr, $41MM with $35MM guaranteed.

That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed.

SmashMouth · 03-09-2025, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Maybe with this news the Seahawks would think about trading for Derek Carr. Klint Kubiak is the offensive coordinator there now, so there's that.

https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-tr...ird-round-pick

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed.

Does not that restructure make a trade now impossible?

voodooido · 03-09-2025, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Does not that restructure make a trade now impossible?

His cap hit next year will be 69.7 million. Unless you’re name is manning or brees no one is trading for him

saintsfan1976 · 03-09-2025, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed.

It's right in line with his production.

saintsfan1976 · 03-09-2025, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed.

https://x.com/nfl/status/18988710626...-HZkcubK8lB6Vw

2yrs 46M 26 guaranteed.

BakoSaint · 03-09-2025, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

https://x.com/nfl/status/18988710626...-HZkcubK8lB6Vw

2yrs 46M 26 guaranteed.

More total money than you discussed but a lot less guaranteed, $26m vs $35m. In all likelihood this is effectively a 1 year $26m deal with a team option for a second year at $20m if Adams does not decline as quickly as expected. And for all we know the $46m number includes some incredibly unlikely bonuses like for winning rings and getting 1500 yards receiving and this is really a 2 year $30 million deal if Adams doesnt trigger big escalator clauses.

Actually this is the second time in 3 years the Rams have given a free agent WR a $46 million contract with over $25 million guaranteed. The last was Allen Robinson, and that did not work out so well. So I maintain my opinion that its too much money, even if a stupid desperate team whose window has probably closed did it. Glad we aren't that team on Adams at least.

I guess the argument is a deal like this could make sense for a team like the Rams that has a Superbowl caliber QB whose window to win again is rapidly closing and wants to go all-in for one more year. Like the Saints around 2020. It would make no sense for the 2025 Saints that are the exact opposite and need to rebuild. It's probably still a mistake for the Rams. Adams is old and rapidly declining.

saintsfan1976 · 03-10-2025, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

More total money than you discussed but a lot less guaranteed, $26m vs $35m. In all likelihood this is effectively a 1 year $26m deal with a team option for a second year at $20m if Adams does not decline as quickly as expected. And for all we know the $46m number includes some incredibly unlikely bonuses like for winning rings and getting 1500 yards receiving and this is really a 2 year $30 million deal if Adams doesnt trigger big escalator clauses.

Actually this is the second time in 3 years the Rams have given a free agent WR a $46 million contract with over $25 million guaranteed. The last was Allen Robinson, and that did not work out so well. So I maintain my opinion that its too much money, even if a stupid desperate team whose window has probably closed did it. Glad we aren't that team on Adams at least.

I guess the argument is a deal like this could make sense for a team like the Rams that has a Superbowl caliber QB whose window to win again is rapidly closing and wants to go all-in for one more year. Like the Saints around 2020. It would make no sense for the 2025 Saints that are the exact opposite and need to rebuild. It's probably still a mistake for the Rams. Adams is old and rapidly declining.

Agree we are not the team for Adams. He's a luxury and Saints need to rebuild the roster.

While his contract terms are similar to Robinson, the mistake you make is in equating the two beyond that.

Over the last six years Adams recorded 609 receptions for 7,647 yards and 64 TDs, while Robinson had 308 receptions for 3,456 yards and 17 TDs.

If anyone didn't deserve the money, it was Robinson but I'll bet the Rams didn't count on him having foot surgery in year 1.

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2025, 11:13 AM

https://x.com/RapSheet/status/189914...42111846596820

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2025, 12:22 PM

Adebo to the Giants.

BakoSaint · 03-10-2025, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Adebo to the Giants.

Thank god. Massive overpay for a player who is coming off an injury nobody at his position has ever recovered from, who was struggling before the injury anyway, and was never consistent in the past.

I think we should put Alontae Taylor back on the edge. There is the argument that we have moved Taylor around too much but I think in his 2022 rookie year on the edge he was actually a good all around player. Then in 2023 we decided at the last minute to hand the job back to Adebo and force Taylor to the slot where he was uncomfortable. Then in 2024 Taylor had a full training camp in the slot and made some strides with run defense and pass rush from the slot, but just isn't suited to coverage in the slot, and suffered from being bounces around between the slot and edge due to injuries. I think Taylor's only chance to be a good all around player is in the slot and we should use him there.

Adebo’s contract may net us a high comp pick. We should try to make sure we dont flush that pick signing some $5 million backup. Wait until after the deadline or sign players who were cut.

03-08-2025, 09:32 PM	#1
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 IF the Saints keep Carr, I will advocate for signing Davante Adams to a 2 year deal. Yes, he's 32 but clearly still got enough to be a solid contributor as a mid to lower tier #1 WR. Let's estimate a 2yr, $41MM with $35MM guaranteed. That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed.
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03-09-2025, 01:41 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,549 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by turbo_dog Maybe with this news the Seahawks would think about trading for Derek Carr. Klint Kubiak is the offensive coordinator there now, so there's that. https://www.nfl.com/news/seahawks-tr...ird-round-pick Originally Posted by BakoSaint That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed. Does not that restructure make a trade now impossible?

03-09-2025, 09:47 AM	#3
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,832	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by SmashMouth Does not that restructure make a trade now impossible? His cap hit next year will be 69.7 million. Unless you’re name is manning or brees no one is trading for him
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03-09-2025, 10:50 AM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,994 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by BakoSaint That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed. It's right in line with his production.

03-09-2025, 07:03 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,994 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by BakoSaint That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed. https://x.com/nfl/status/18988710626...-HZkcubK8lB6Vw 2yrs 46M 26 guaranteed.

03-09-2025, 07:12 PM	#6
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 https://x.com/nfl/status/18988710626...-HZkcubK8lB6Vw 2yrs 46M 26 guaranteed. More total money than you discussed but a lot less guaranteed, $26m vs $35m. In all likelihood this is effectively a 1 year $26m deal with a team option for a second year at $20m if Adams does not decline as quickly as expected. And for all we know the $46m number includes some incredibly unlikely bonuses like for winning rings and getting 1500 yards receiving and this is really a 2 year $30 million deal if Adams doesnt trigger big escalator clauses. Actually this is the second time in 3 years the Rams have given a free agent WR a $46 million contract with over $25 million guaranteed. The last was Allen Robinson, and that did not work out so well. So I maintain my opinion that its too much money, even if a stupid desperate team whose window has probably closed did it. Glad we aren't that team on Adams at least. I guess the argument is a deal like this could make sense for a team like the Rams that has a Superbowl caliber QB whose window to win again is rapidly closing and wants to go all-in for one more year. Like the Saints around 2020. It would make no sense for the 2025 Saints that are the exact opposite and need to rebuild. It's probably still a mistake for the Rams. Adams is old and rapidly declining.
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03-10-2025, 06:55 AM	#7
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,994 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by BakoSaint More total money than you discussed but a lot less guaranteed, $26m vs $35m. In all likelihood this is effectively a 1 year $26m deal with a team option for a second year at $20m if Adams does not decline as quickly as expected. And for all we know the $46m number includes some incredibly unlikely bonuses like for winning rings and getting 1500 yards receiving and this is really a 2 year $30 million deal if Adams doesnt trigger big escalator clauses. Actually this is the second time in 3 years the Rams have given a free agent WR a $46 million contract with over $25 million guaranteed. The last was Allen Robinson, and that did not work out so well. So I maintain my opinion that its too much money, even if a stupid desperate team whose window has probably closed did it. Glad we aren't that team on Adams at least. I guess the argument is a deal like this could make sense for a team like the Rams that has a Superbowl caliber QB whose window to win again is rapidly closing and wants to go all-in for one more year. Like the Saints around 2020. It would make no sense for the 2025 Saints that are the exact opposite and need to rebuild. It's probably still a mistake for the Rams. Adams is old and rapidly declining. Agree we are not the team for Adams. He's a luxury and Saints need to rebuild the roster. While his contract terms are similar to Robinson, the mistake you make is in equating the two beyond that. Over the last six years Adams recorded 609 receptions for 7,647 yards and 64 TDs, while Robinson had 308 receptions for 3,456 yards and 17 TDs. If anyone didn't deserve the money, it was Robinson but I'll bet the Rams didn't count on him having foot surgery in year 1.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Adebo to the Giants.

03-10-2025, 03:37 PM	#10
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Adebo to the Giants. Thank god. Massive overpay for a player who is coming off an injury nobody at his position has ever recovered from, who was struggling before the injury anyway, and was never consistent in the past. I think we should put Alontae Taylor back on the edge. There is the argument that we have moved Taylor around too much but I think in his 2022 rookie year on the edge he was actually a good all around player. Then in 2023 we decided at the last minute to hand the job back to Adebo and force Taylor to the slot where he was uncomfortable. Then in 2024 Taylor had a full training camp in the slot and made some strides with run defense and pass rush from the slot, but just isn't suited to coverage in the slot, and suffered from being bounces around between the slot and edge due to injuries. I think Taylor's only chance to be a good all around player is in the slot and we should use him there. Adebo’s contract may net us a high comp pick. We should try to make sure we dont flush that pick signing some $5 million backup. Wait until after the deadline or sign players who were cut.
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