Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves

rezburna · 03-09-2025, 11:32 AM

Carr wanted out and we kept him anyway. Mickey Loomis is so trash.

SmashMouth · 03-09-2025, 12:26 PM

https://x.com/ProFootballPSI/status/1898554204156793009

BakoSaint · 03-09-2025, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Carr wanted out and we kept him anyway. Mickey Loomis is so trash.

I dont believe Carr really wanted out. I believe he was due to make $40m, his market is $20-25m, we asked him to take a pay cut, and instead he dared Loomis to cut him and let him test the market, knowing Loomis could not give up that D. Cutting Carr would have triggered a cap hit that forced a rebuild year and if there are three words in the english language that Loomis cannot stand they are rebuild, sober, and a common slang term for female genitalia.

saintsfan1976 · 03-09-2025, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed.

https://x.com/nfl/status/18988710626...-HZkcubK8lB6Vw

2yrs 46M 26 guaranteed.

BakoSaint · 03-09-2025, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

https://x.com/nfl/status/18988710626...-HZkcubK8lB6Vw

2yrs 46M 26 guaranteed.

More total money than you discussed but a lot less guaranteed, $26m vs $35m. In all likelihood this is effectively a 1 year $26m deal with a team option for a second year at $20m if Adams does not decline as quickly as expected. And for all we know the $46m number includes some incredibly unlikely bonuses like for winning rings and getting 1500 yards receiving and this is really a 2 year $30 million deal if Adams doesnt trigger big escalator clauses.

Actually this is the second time in 3 years the Rams have given a free agent WR a $46 million contract with over $25 million guaranteed. The last was Allen Robinson, and that did not work out so well. So I maintain my opinion that its too much money, even if a stupid desperate team whose window has probably closed did it. Glad we aren't that team on Adams at least.

I guess the argument is a deal like this could make sense for a team like the Rams that has a Superbowl caliber QB whose window to win again is rapidly closing and wants to go all-in for one more year. Like the Saints around 2020. It would make no sense for the 2025 Saints that are the exact opposite and need to rebuild. It's probably still a mistake for the Rams. Adams is old and rapidly declining.

jnormand · 03-09-2025, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://x.com/ProFootballPSI/status/1898554204156793009

Loomis should be fired just for that stat alone. What a stupid ass contract. Good grief wish we would’ve just cut him, took the cap hit and burned the season.

Infuriating.

voodooido · 03-09-2025, 08:31 PM

I don’t like carr but I don’t think we are a better team without him. Rattler can sit another year before he is given a chance. I think he has potential but I’d rather ride with carr and possibly draft Dart if he is there in round 2.

saintsfan1976 · 03-10-2025, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

More total money than you discussed but a lot less guaranteed, $26m vs $35m. In all likelihood this is effectively a 1 year $26m deal with a team option for a second year at $20m if Adams does not decline as quickly as expected. And for all we know the $46m number includes some incredibly unlikely bonuses like for winning rings and getting 1500 yards receiving and this is really a 2 year $30 million deal if Adams doesnt trigger big escalator clauses.

Actually this is the second time in 3 years the Rams have given a free agent WR a $46 million contract with over $25 million guaranteed. The last was Allen Robinson, and that did not work out so well. So I maintain my opinion that its too much money, even if a stupid desperate team whose window has probably closed did it. Glad we aren't that team on Adams at least.

I guess the argument is a deal like this could make sense for a team like the Rams that has a Superbowl caliber QB whose window to win again is rapidly closing and wants to go all-in for one more year. Like the Saints around 2020. It would make no sense for the 2025 Saints that are the exact opposite and need to rebuild. It's probably still a mistake for the Rams. Adams is old and rapidly declining.

Agree we are not the team for Adams. He's a luxury and Saints need to rebuild the roster.

While his contract terms are similar to Robinson, the mistake you make is in equating the two beyond that.

Over the last six years Adams recorded 609 receptions for 7,647 yards and 64 TDs, while Robinson had 308 receptions for 3,456 yards and 17 TDs.

If anyone didn't deserve the money, it was Robinson but I'll bet the Rams didn't count on him having foot surgery in year 1.

AsylumGuido · 03-10-2025, 08:24 AM

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03-09-2025, 11:32 AM	#41
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Carr wanted out and we kept him anyway. Mickey Loomis is so trash. saintsfan1976, Sinner, bobdog86 and 1 others like this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,303	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by rezburna Carr wanted out and we kept him anyway. Mickey Loomis is so trash. I dont believe Carr really wanted out. I believe he was due to make $40m, his market is $20-25m, we asked him to take a pay cut, and instead he dared Loomis to cut him and let him test the market, knowing Loomis could not give up that D. Cutting Carr would have triggered a cap hit that forced a rebuild year and if there are three words in the english language that Loomis cannot stand they are rebuild, sober, and a common slang term for female genitalia. SmashMouth and Sinner like this.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,971 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by BakoSaint That is way more than he should get paid and anyone who wants that should have just been a Raiders fan 3 years ago and watched these players when they were less washed. https://x.com/nfl/status/18988710626...-HZkcubK8lB6Vw 2yrs 46M 26 guaranteed.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,303	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 https://x.com/nfl/status/18988710626...-HZkcubK8lB6Vw 2yrs 46M 26 guaranteed. More total money than you discussed but a lot less guaranteed, $26m vs $35m. In all likelihood this is effectively a 1 year $26m deal with a team option for a second year at $20m if Adams does not decline as quickly as expected. And for all we know the $46m number includes some incredibly unlikely bonuses like for winning rings and getting 1500 yards receiving and this is really a 2 year $30 million deal if Adams doesnt trigger big escalator clauses. Actually this is the second time in 3 years the Rams have given a free agent WR a $46 million contract with over $25 million guaranteed. The last was Allen Robinson, and that did not work out so well. So I maintain my opinion that its too much money, even if a stupid desperate team whose window has probably closed did it. Glad we aren't that team on Adams at least. I guess the argument is a deal like this could make sense for a team like the Rams that has a Superbowl caliber QB whose window to win again is rapidly closing and wants to go all-in for one more year. Like the Saints around 2020. It would make no sense for the 2025 Saints that are the exact opposite and need to rebuild. It's probably still a mistake for the Rams. Adams is old and rapidly declining.
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,971 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves Originally Posted by BakoSaint More total money than you discussed but a lot less guaranteed, $26m vs $35m. In all likelihood this is effectively a 1 year $26m deal with a team option for a second year at $20m if Adams does not decline as quickly as expected. And for all we know the $46m number includes some incredibly unlikely bonuses like for winning rings and getting 1500 yards receiving and this is really a 2 year $30 million deal if Adams doesnt trigger big escalator clauses. Actually this is the second time in 3 years the Rams have given a free agent WR a $46 million contract with over $25 million guaranteed. The last was Allen Robinson, and that did not work out so well. So I maintain my opinion that its too much money, even if a stupid desperate team whose window has probably closed did it. Glad we aren't that team on Adams at least. I guess the argument is a deal like this could make sense for a team like the Rams that has a Superbowl caliber QB whose window to win again is rapidly closing and wants to go all-in for one more year. Like the Saints around 2020. It would make no sense for the 2025 Saints that are the exact opposite and need to rebuild. It's probably still a mistake for the Rams. Adams is old and rapidly declining. Agree we are not the team for Adams. He's a luxury and Saints need to rebuild the roster. While his contract terms are similar to Robinson, the mistake you make is in equating the two beyond that. Over the last six years Adams recorded 609 receptions for 7,647 yards and 64 TDs, while Robinson had 308 receptions for 3,456 yards and 17 TDs. If anyone didn't deserve the money, it was Robinson but I'll bet the Rams didn't count on him having foot surgery in year 1.

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