Stallworth Trade?

hagan714 · 09-01-2006, 09:32 AM

hey donte will be missed. but he was our best trade bait. not like he was unreplacable. Let closton play and see how it goes. next We will probly draft/FA a speed WR next year or2. A WR to shape as a replacment for when, if he works outs, closton slides over and takes over for Joe. he can not play forever. We have to see how the group works out.

saintswhodi · 09-01-2006, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

hey donte will be missed. but he was our best trade bait. not like he was unreplacable. Let closton play and see how it goes. next We will probly draft/FA a speed WR next year or2. A WR to shape as a replacment for when, if he works outs, closton slides over and takes over for Joe. he can not play forever. We have to see how the group works out.

I definitely agree he was our best trade bait, and I have no problem with him getting traded. But let's be fair here. It's not like he was in the best situation to develop, or to form the right attitude with the apparent # of cancers and lazy ass players we had on this team. That's all I am saying.

LKelley67 · 09-01-2006, 09:53 AM

can't the man get an amen? It will be no surprise to see Donte surpass last years numbers. No surprise if he drops more or drops less. No surprise if he plays 16 games or comes up lame and does 8. The dude can play. Inconsistent but he ain't a bum. With the rebuild and all the good young receivers it was a simply a prudent move.

I am sure they took the best offer available. I'll take it over another Bentley-Howard walk away.

gandhi1007 · 09-01-2006, 03:12 PM

And Joe Horn is not a good example, cause 1) he was a vet when he got here

Not a good example because he was a vet? He was a practice squad player & backup in Kansas City before coming to New Orleans. I would hardly call that a vet. If he was a vet then, then Chase Lyman & Colby Bockwoldt are vets now.

And might I add......his 1st chance at starting in N.O. (& since), he's put up great numbers & been consistent.

Inconsistent but he ain't a bum.

Best description of Stallworth yet. I've never claimed him to be garbage, but consistency at catching the football should be a requirement of an NFL receiver. If you want to see what a true #1 receiver does, check out the number of drops Marvin Harrison's had in the last 3 seasons. That's consistency!!!!! I'm sure Donte will have a good season in Philly (if he doesn't pull a hammy), but as many people have stated previously......this was probably the best move of our FO yet. We b**ch because we didn't get anything for someone (ala Bentley, Howard, & Smith), but then we also b**ch when we do get something for someone in a position that we actually have great depth in?

WTF? Just be happy we didn't lose him for nothing & that we have a young stud at WR to take his place. :P

saintswhodi · 09-01-2006, 03:19 PM

Joe Horn was a vet when we got him. 4 years in the league at that point I believe. 4 is more than zero right? Plus, Donte's and Joe's work ethic are night and day. Donte at times try to skate on ability alone, while Joe is always working to improve cause he does not have all the matural ability of some. Outside of both being Wrs, their situations couldn't have been more different. As far as Joe just being a practice squad player, he played in all 16 games for KC the two years before he came to us, and he improved in each one. Like I said, no comparison. And dude, Chase Lyman and colby? Come on man. Get real for a second. Don't pull that nonsense on me. :P

And isn't Chad Johnson a #1 receiver? Isn't Antonio Gates a #1 receiving option? Eddie Kennison? Muhsin Muhammed? Comparable # of drops to Donte. We could pick and choose all day, the fact remains Donte's drops were no worse a problem than those of other #1 receivers. AND, Donte may have had a little more reason to drop balls than these other guys. No one is saying the dude was a #1 in the making, but still, no need to slam him unnecessarily. Donte was a disappointment, to all of us. We all expected more, sooner from him. We never got it. Again I will say, let's see what he does in Philly. I think he would have done well with Brees, but then that would have your boy Colston on the bench, and you wouldn't have that now would you?

gandhi1007 · 09-01-2006, 03:29 PM

Again I will say, let's see what he does in Philly. I think he would have done well with Brees, but then that would have your boy Colston on the bench, and you wouldn't have that now would you?

Again....I think he will do well in Philly also. A competent QB is always a plus. I just think that after 4 years of waiting, it was time. I expected big things from Stallworth the same as everyone else. The simple fact is he's a slightly above average receiver w/ amazing physical gifts, but w/ horrible professionalism & work ethic. See the T.O. experiment in Dallas & see how that's shaping up. I'm just glad we got something for him. It could have been worse with Loomis running the show.

P.S.- Colston would have beat him out of the job anyway.

09-01-2006, 09:44 AM	#92
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by hagan714 hey donte will be missed. but he was our best trade bait. not like he was unreplacable. Let closton play and see how it goes. next We will probly draft/FA a speed WR next year or2. A WR to shape as a replacment for when, if he works outs, closton slides over and takes over for Joe. he can not play forever. We have to see how the group works out. I definitely agree he was our best trade bait, and I have no problem with him getting traded. But let's be fair here. It's not like he was in the best situation to develop, or to form the right attitude with the apparent # of cancers and lazy ass players we had on this team. That's all I am saying.

09-01-2006, 03:12 PM	#94
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	And Joe Horn is not a good example, cause 1) he was a vet when he got here Not a good example because he was a vet? He was a practice squad player & backup in Kansas City before coming to New Orleans. I would hardly call that a vet. If he was a vet then, then Chase Lyman & Colby Bockwoldt are vets now. And might I add......his 1st chance at starting in N.O. (& since), he's put up great numbers & been consistent. Inconsistent but he ain't a bum. Best description of Stallworth yet. I've never claimed him to be garbage, but consistency at catching the football should be a requirement of an NFL receiver. If you want to see what a true #1 receiver does, check out the number of drops Marvin Harrison's had in the last 3 seasons. That's consistency!!!!! I'm sure Donte will have a good season in Philly (if he doesn't pull a hammy), but as many people have stated previously......this was probably the best move of our FO yet. We bch because we didn't get anything for someone (ala Bentley, Howard, & Smith), but then we also bch when we do get something for someone in a position that we actually have great depth in? WTF? Just be happy we didn't lose him for nothing & that we have a young stud at WR to take his place. :P
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gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Again I will say, let's see what he does in Philly. I think he would have done well with Brees, but then that would have your boy Colston on the bench, and you wouldn't have that now would you? Again....I think he will do well in Philly also. A competent QB is always a plus. I just think that after 4 years of waiting, it was time. I expected big things from Stallworth the same as everyone else. The simple fact is he's a slightly above average receiver w/ amazing physical gifts, but w/ horrible professionalism & work ethic. See the T.O. experiment in Dallas & see how that's shaping up. I'm just glad we got something for him. It could have been worse with Loomis running the show. P.S.- Colston would have beat him out of the job anyway.
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09-01-2006, 09:32 AM	#91
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	hey donte will be missed. but he was our best trade bait. not like he was unreplacable. Let closton play and see how it goes. next We will probly draft/FA a speed WR next year or2. A WR to shape as a replacment for when, if he works outs, closton slides over and takes over for Joe. he can not play forever. We have to see how the group works out.

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09-01-2006, 09:53 AM	#93
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	can't the man get an amen? It will be no surprise to see Donte surpass last years numbers. No surprise if he drops more or drops less. No surprise if he plays 16 games or comes up lame and does 8. The dude can play. Inconsistent but he ain't a bum. With the rebuild and all the good young receivers it was a simply a prudent move. I am sure they took the best offer available. I'll take it over another Bentley-Howard walk away.

09-01-2006, 03:19 PM	#95
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Joe Horn was a vet when we got him. 4 years in the league at that point I believe. 4 is more than zero right? Plus, Donte's and Joe's work ethic are night and day. Donte at times try to skate on ability alone, while Joe is always working to improve cause he does not have all the matural ability of some. Outside of both being Wrs, their situations couldn't have been more different. As far as Joe just being a practice squad player, he played in all 16 games for KC the two years before he came to us, and he improved in each one. Like I said, no comparison. And dude, Chase Lyman and colby? Come on man. Get real for a second. Don't pull that nonsense on me. :P And isn't Chad Johnson a #1 receiver? Isn't Antonio Gates a #1 receiving option? Eddie Kennison? Muhsin Muhammed? Comparable # of drops to Donte. We could pick and choose all day, the fact remains Donte's drops were no worse a problem than those of other #1 receivers. AND, Donte may have had a little more reason to drop balls than these other guys. No one is saying the dude was a #1 in the making, but still, no need to slam him unnecessarily. Donte was a disappointment, to all of us. We all expected more, sooner from him. We never got it. Again I will say, let's see what he does in Philly. I think he would have done well with Brees, but then that would have your boy Colston on the bench, and you wouldn't have that now would you?