Go Back   New Orleans Saints Forums - blackandgold.com > Main > Saints

Stallworth Trade?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; after all the debating on your boy I have to remind you. Donte will once again be one of the best in the NFL at dropping passes. I know, I know it is so objective. Besides there was another in ...

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-31-2006, 12:17 AM   #81
LB Mentallity
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 15,870
Blog Entries: 68
after all the debating on your boy I have to remind you.
Donte will once again be one of the best in the NFL at dropping passes. I know, I know it is so objective. Besides there was another in wy. mo or was it ut ? betting on beers with lake trout.
just incase i loss, yeah right, you get root beer(top shelf)
hagan714 is offline  
Old 08-31-2006, 04:47 AM   #82
1000 Posts +
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The Toilet of Idaho
Posts: 4,487
I really think Donte is a good receiver. I would have liked to keep the guy with the Saints, but I think we got a fair deal here. Simoneau is probably not "the answer to our LB probs", but he is a serviceable back-up and even a starter sometimes. You never know, maybe some Eagle fans are saying that Simoneau is going to resurrect his career in New Orleans.

Simoneau and a 4th round pick that could end up being a 3rd round pick is definately fair.

At least Coach P is trying to shore up the LB corps.

On that note, everyone agreed that we needed LB help in the offseason. In fact before the draft several people were hoping to get Hawk. Now that we haven't done so well against the pass, a lot of people are saying we need to shore up the CB.

IMO, LB is a definate need for this team and any help is a step in the right direction.
jnormand is offline  
Old 08-31-2006, 09:45 AM   #83
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 6,941
Originally Posted by hagan714
after all the debating on your boy I have to remind you.
Donte will once again be one of the best in the NFL at dropping passes. I know, I know it is so objective. Besides there was another in wy. mo or was it ut ? betting on beers with lake trout.
just incase i loss, yeah right, you get root beer(top shelf)
Okay, I am not getting it. Find the thread. Are you saying that Donte, who for the FIRST time in his career even led this team in drops last year, on a 3-13 horrible hurricane ravaged team, will repeat that feat? That's the bet? Find the thread is all I can say. I can't believe you would be that biased as to make a bet like that. Sounds downright foolish.
saintswhodi is offline  
Old 08-31-2006, 10:06 AM   #84
100th Post
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: toledo
Posts: 219
If Payton is looking to add depth at Linebacker, and not talent...Please sign me.,..I am 5'11", 217 Lbs..fat and out of shape..Oh, I'm also 33 years old and haven't played football since 1995...If depth, not quality, is what Payton wants, I could save the Saints money...I just need the league minimum salary and a flight to Training camp! Get may jersey ready...I'll call my agent!
shackney is offline  
Old 08-31-2006, 01:21 PM   #85
500th Post
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 594
I still don't see how trading Donte was such a mistake. HE HAD A BAD ATTITUDE! That's the last thing we need on this team. Some players just aren't going to jell here. And if he has a great season in Philly, that doesn't automatically mean he would have had as good of a season here.


Honestly who cares what he would have done....woulda coulda shoulda. He should've been working hard in camp. I think with his athletic talent, if he was working as hard as he could, he would have been the #1 reciever no doubt. But that didn't happen.

And I doubt he'll do anything in Philly until they get some more help. First of all they don't run the ball, which will hurt him. Second of all he's the only reciever they have. All they have to do is double him. He's not good enough to put up Pro Bowl numbers in that situation.
GoldRush26 is offline  
Old 08-31-2006, 05:37 PM   #86
Part Time Pimp
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,967
Stallworth had nearly 1000 yards last year and has speed to stretch the field.
........and hands of stone. That's not good when you're a receiver.
gandhi1007 is offline  
Old 08-31-2006, 09:07 PM   #87
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 6,941
Originally Posted by gandhi1007
Stallworth had nearly 1000 yards last year and has speed to stretch the field.
........and hands of stone. That's not good when you're a receiver.
Dude, we get it. You love Colston. Stop dissing Donte. LAst year was the first year he led our team in drops. Throw him right up there with Muhsin Muhammed, Antonio Gates, Lamont Jordan, Chad Johnson, etc. etc. etc. Colston is getting his chance now. It's all good.
saintswhodi is offline  
Old 08-31-2006, 10:16 PM   #88
Part Time Pimp
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,967
Dude, we get it. You love Colston. Stop dissing Donte. LAst year was the first year he led our team in drops. Throw him right up there with Muhsin Muhammed, Antonio Gates, Lamont Jordan, Chad Johnson, etc. etc. etc. Colston is getting his chance now. It's all good.

I'm not dissing Stallworth simply because of my man crush on Colston. :P Stallworth was drafted in 2002, which means he had 4 years to develop into the receiver we all hoped he would be. Grant it..... he did have a bum for a QB, but Joe Horn managed Pro Bowl numbers with "Fumbles the Clown" at QB. Last year was the 1st year I saw Joe Horn drop catchable passes. One bad year during the season of Katrina, I can excuse. Stallworth, on the other hand, was consistent at that feat since his rookie season, dropping catchable ball after catchable ball. Yes....I know they were rarely in stride, but they were catchable. Donte has blazing speed. Great!!! Of all the greatest receivers in NFL history (Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Cris Carter, Fred Bilitnekoff, etc....), how many were known as blazingly fast guys? Very, very few. But...... they all had 3 things in common: (1) They were team players with heart. (2) They ran sharp routes. & (3) They could actually catch the ball!!!! That's my point from the beginning. It doesn't matter how fast you are, what round you came out of, are what kind of freakish strength you have at the WR spot. It's about running sharp routes & catching the damn football!!!!!!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...gs/12-3006.jpg

______________________________
KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!
-G.I. Joe
gandhi1007 is offline  
Old 08-31-2006, 10:56 PM   #89
500th Post
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 578
I agree with Ghandi, too
D24pick is offline  
Old 09-01-2006, 09:31 AM   #90
5000 POSTS! +
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 6,941
Originally Posted by gandhi1007
Dude, we get it. You love Colston. Stop dissing Donte. LAst year was the first year he led our team in drops. Throw him right up there with Muhsin Muhammed, Antonio Gates, Lamont Jordan, Chad Johnson, etc. etc. etc. Colston is getting his chance now. It's all good.

I'm not dissing Stallworth simply because of my man crush on Colston. :P Stallworth was drafted in 2002, which means he had 4 years to develop into the receiver we all hoped he would be. Grant it..... he did have a bum for a QB, but Joe Horn managed Pro Bowl numbers with "Fumbles the Clown" at QB. Last year was the 1st year I saw Joe Horn drop catchable passes. One bad year during the season of Katrina, I can excuse. Stallworth, on the other hand, was consistent at that feat since his rookie season, dropping catchable ball after catchable ball. Yes....I know they were rarely in stride, but they were catchable. Donte has blazing speed. Great!!! Of all the greatest receivers in NFL history (Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Cris Carter, Fred Bilitnekoff, etc....), how many were known as blazingly fast guys? Very, very few. But...... they all had 3 things in common: (1) They were team players with heart. (2) They ran sharp routes. & (3) They could actually catch the ball!!!! That's my point from the beginning. It doesn't matter how fast you are, what round you came out of, are what kind of freakish strength you have at the WR spot. It's about running sharp routes & catching the damn football!!!!!!
Once again, last year was the first year Donte even led our team in drops. Also, out of the 4 years, two he was injured. Maybe that slowed his development? Maybe the poor ass coaching and poor ass QB, slowed his development? And Joe Horn is not a good example, cause 1) he was a vet when he got here, and 2) anyone who has watched more than 2 Saints games knows Brooks ALWAYS locked onto Joe. Too many times I have seen receivers open if AB went through a progression, but he would throw to Joe. Come on man. Let's see how the dude does in Philly. But one year leading the team in drops, and giving other players a pass cause of Katrina and not Donte is kinda weak. He still caught 70 passes for alomst 1000 yards when teams knew he was the main receiving threat. That ain't garbage.
saintswhodi is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:37 PM.


Copyright 1997 - 2020 - BlackandGold.com
no new posts