Stallworth Trade?

hagan714 · 08-29-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

I hate you all.

i feel for dude :P

biloxi-indian · 08-29-2006, 06:58 PM

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Donte's first comments.

saintswhodi · 08-29-2006, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick.

I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick.

Unreal. What did you guys think we were going to get a first or second rounder for him just because he was a first rounder? I think that if we get the third for him then I'm happy. You heard Joe Horn say it himself....the guy had no professionalism. Was he just going to all of a sudden change next year? Do we really want him to be a negative influence to Reggie?

Odds are he wasn't going to resign with us and he was going to walk for nada. I'd think you guys would've learned from Darren Howard.

Wait, you took ONE GUY'S quote and attributed it to "you guys?" Slow your roll................

I'm applying it to everyone who thinks that he wasn't going to walk next year and we got hosed with this trade. That's who "you guys" is refering to. No reason to get all butthurt over it.

It's just a business decision....why are so many people getting all emotional about this. Brooks, Sullivan, now Stallworth. All of them had attitude problems that weren't worth their talent.

Hmm, i've read this entire thread, and this seems to me like the only person who felt this way was the guy you replied to. IS there maybe one other or something? As much as I wanted Stallworth to stay, even I liked the trade. "You guys" should prob apply to more than one or two people though, especially when the overall sentiment of 99% of the thread was acceptance. I know you were eager to rant, but keep it relevant.

hagan714 · 08-29-2006, 09:37 PM

okay whoodi. like i said the bet is still on. root beer right? top shelf of course

D24pick · 08-29-2006, 10:08 PM

My so-so

That Colston and DH are our #2 recivers, they'll share time at that position like in Camp
None of these youngsters can live up to be a #2 yet, I see us being like the old Colts or Pats, these two guys will mainly share time at this spot...This how they've been in Camp as well, to my surprise, even though I'm rooting for em, DH has looked better than alot of our recent #2 guys...Then Colston has been the most surprise to everyone, so thats how I see it....

Hass, this guy can play...From my recent readings, Hass and Jones have been in an all out brawl for the #3 spot, like DH and Colston has its just that they have two different styles in the game... Same as the Jones and Hass battle, which I think Hass will win, even though hes not earning playing time, if they were smart enough to do all these good roster moves, they'll be smart enough to utilize Hass

Horn
DH
/Colston
Hass or Jones
Jones or Hass
C.Horn or Moore or Lymaan-another last spot fight

gandhi1007 · 08-29-2006, 10:30 PM

That Colston and DH are our #2 recivers, they'll share time at that position like in Camp

Wrong you are my little padawan. According to sources inside the Saints organization, Colston is the guy at the #2 spot. Devery isn't even on Payton's radar for the spot anymore.

Then Colston has been the most surprise to everyone

Uh, uh, uh.......Daddy called that one since January. Check it:

Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Reciever can help offensive woes Posted: Jan 22, 2006 - 10:33 AM

Bob Marley

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4th Round: Marcus Colston 6'5 225 lbs. WR from Hofstra. I had been hearing alot about this guy from scouts all over, but never really got to watch him play. It seems that Hofstra isn't a real media darling of a school. Imagine that.

Anyway, I watched this kid play in the East-West Shrine game yesterday & all I can say is DAMNNNNNN...

This kid can flat out play. He's got the size, decent speed, but most of all he catches everything. Guy was a basketball player (ala-Antonio Gates) turned WR. He's athletic with great hands. The latter of which we desperately need in a WR.

Or when I was hoping for him on draft day in the 7th:

Post subject: RE: RD 7? Posted: Apr 30, 2006 - 04:20 PM

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I hope we get Marques Colston-WR Hofstra. I can't believe he's lasted this long.

TheDeuce · 08-29-2006, 11:46 PM

Quote:
That Colston and DH are our #2 recivers, they'll share time at that position like in Camp

Wrong you are my little padawan. According to sources inside the Saints organization, Colston is the guy at the #2 spot. Devery isn't even on Payton's radar for the spot anymore.

Quote:
Then Colston has been the most surprise to everyone

Uh, uh, uh.......Daddy called that one since January. Check it:

Quote:
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Reciever can help offensive woes Posted: Jan 22, 2006 - 10:33 AM

Bob Marley

Joined: Oct 11, 2005
Posts: 982

Status: Online!
4th Round: Marcus Colston 6'5 225 lbs. WR from Hofstra. I had been hearing alot about this guy from scouts all over, but never really got to watch him play. It seems that Hofstra isn't a real media darling of a school. Imagine that.

Anyway, I watched this kid play in the East-West Shrine game yesterday & all I can say is DAMNNNNNN...

This kid can flat out play. He's got the size, decent speed, but most of all he catches everything. Guy was a basketball player (ala-Antonio Gates) turned WR. He's athletic with great hands. The latter of which we desperately need in a WR.

Or when I was hoping for him on draft day in the 7th:

Quote:
Post subject: RE: RD 7? Posted: Apr 30, 2006 - 04:20 PM

Bob Marley

Joined: Oct 11, 2005
Posts: 982

Status: Online!
I hope we get Marques Colston-WR Hofstra. I can't believe he's lasted this long.

Hahaha, wow gandhi, for all that smoking you do you still have a good memory!

leilung · 08-30-2006, 09:23 AM

Hahaha, wow gandhi, for all that smoking you do you still have a good memory!

I suspect that his steel-trap memory is only that good on the stuff he's gotten RIGHT Deuce.

saintswhodi · 08-30-2006, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

okay whoodi. like i said the bet is still on. root beer right? top shelf of course

Refresh my memory on the bet.

leilung · 08-30-2006, 09:34 AM

Am I the only one who thinks the Mgmt MAY have pulled the trigger too quick on this one?

Things to consider:
1- New quarterback = timing/velocity issues. Face it, Brees has been less than stellar thus far. If you give him a little time to adjust, shouldn't his receivers be given the same leeway?

2- Old quarterback = crap for stats. If you had a QB that could actually THROW the ball to a man, this wouldn't be an issue. We had AB. 'nuff said there.

3- New LB = poor pass defender/ no speed for pass rush/ undersized for stopping runs without a stud SS to assist.

and last but not least,
4- The Curse = Donte will go to Philly and become a receiving god to rival his Dad's legacy, and we'll be watching Horn free agent his way out of NOLA.

Lived 15 mins from Philly all my live and believe me, having watched Simoneaux play, he is definitely NOT the answer to our defense woes!
Talk to me people...

08-29-2006, 06:32 PM	#71
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Originally Posted by saintswhodi I hate you all. i feel for dude :P

08-29-2006, 08:32 PM	#73
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Originally Posted by saintswhodi Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Originally Posted by nola_swammi If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick. I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick. Unreal. What did you guys think we were going to get a first or second rounder for him just because he was a first rounder? I think that if we get the third for him then I'm happy. You heard Joe Horn say it himself....the guy had no professionalism. Was he just going to all of a sudden change next year? Do we really want him to be a negative influence to Reggie? Odds are he wasn't going to resign with us and he was going to walk for nada. I'd think you guys would've learned from Darren Howard. Wait, you took ONE GUY'S quote and attributed it to "you guys?" Slow your roll................ I'm applying it to everyone who thinks that he wasn't going to walk next year and we got hosed with this trade. That's who "you guys" is refering to. No reason to get all butthurt over it. It's just a business decision....why are so many people getting all emotional about this. Brooks, Sullivan, now Stallworth. All of them had attitude problems that weren't worth their talent. Hmm, i've read this entire thread, and this seems to me like the only person who felt this way was the guy you replied to. IS there maybe one other or something? As much as I wanted Stallworth to stay, even I liked the trade. "You guys" should prob apply to more than one or two people though, especially when the overall sentiment of 99% of the thread was acceptance. I know you were eager to rant, but keep it relevant.

08-29-2006, 10:08 PM	#75
D24pick 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Orleans Posts: 578	My so-so That Colston and DH are our #2 recivers, they'll share time at that position like in Camp None of these youngsters can live up to be a #2 yet, I see us being like the old Colts or Pats, these two guys will mainly share time at this spot...This how they've been in Camp as well, to my surprise, even though I'm rooting for em, DH has looked better than alot of our recent #2 guys...Then Colston has been the most surprise to everyone, so thats how I see it.... Hass, this guy can play...From my recent readings, Hass and Jones have been in an all out brawl for the #3 spot, like DH and Colston has its just that they have two different styles in the game... Same as the Jones and Hass battle, which I think Hass will win, even though hes not earning playing time, if they were smart enough to do all these good roster moves, they'll be smart enough to utilize Hass Horn DH /Colston Hass or Jones Jones or Hass C.Horn or Moore or Lymaan-another last spot fight
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08-29-2006, 10:30 PM	#76
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	That Colston and DH are our #2 recivers, they'll share time at that position like in Camp Wrong you are my little padawan. According to sources inside the Saints organization, Colston is the guy at the #2 spot. Devery isn't even on Payton's radar for the spot anymore. Then Colston has been the most surprise to everyone Uh, uh, uh.......Daddy called that one since January. Check it: Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Reciever can help offensive woes Posted: Jan 22, 2006 - 10:33 AM Bob Marley Joined: Oct 11, 2005 Posts: 982 Status: Online! 4th Round: Marcus Colston 6'5 225 lbs. WR from Hofstra. I had been hearing alot about this guy from scouts all over, but never really got to watch him play. It seems that Hofstra isn't a real media darling of a school. Imagine that. Anyway, I watched this kid play in the East-West Shrine game yesterday & all I can say is DAMNNNNNN... This kid can flat out play. He's got the size, decent speed, but most of all he catches everything. Guy was a basketball player (ala-Antonio Gates) turned WR. He's athletic with great hands. The latter of which we desperately need in a WR. Or when I was hoping for him on draft day in the 7th: Post subject: RE: RD 7? Posted: Apr 30, 2006 - 04:20 PM Bob Marley Joined: Oct 11, 2005 Posts: 982 Status: Online! I hope we get Marques Colston-WR Hofstra. I can't believe he's lasted this long.

08-29-2006, 11:46 PM	#77
TheDeuce 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,928	Quote: That Colston and DH are our #2 recivers, they'll share time at that position like in Camp Wrong you are my little padawan. According to sources inside the Saints organization, Colston is the guy at the #2 spot. Devery isn't even on Payton's radar for the spot anymore. Quote: Then Colston has been the most surprise to everyone Uh, uh, uh.......Daddy called that one since January. Check it: Quote: Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Reciever can help offensive woes Posted: Jan 22, 2006 - 10:33 AM Bob Marley Joined: Oct 11, 2005 Posts: 982 Status: Online! 4th Round: Marcus Colston 6'5 225 lbs. WR from Hofstra. I had been hearing alot about this guy from scouts all over, but never really got to watch him play. It seems that Hofstra isn't a real media darling of a school. Imagine that. Anyway, I watched this kid play in the East-West Shrine game yesterday & all I can say is DAMNNNNNN... This kid can flat out play. He's got the size, decent speed, but most of all he catches everything. Guy was a basketball player (ala-Antonio Gates) turned WR. He's athletic with great hands. The latter of which we desperately need in a WR. Or when I was hoping for him on draft day in the 7th: Quote: Post subject: RE: RD 7? Posted: Apr 30, 2006 - 04:20 PM Bob Marley Joined: Oct 11, 2005 Posts: 982 Status: Online! I hope we get Marques Colston-WR Hofstra. I can't believe he's lasted this long. Hahaha, wow gandhi, for all that smoking you do you still have a good memory!
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08-29-2006, 06:58 PM	#72
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	okay whoodi. like i said the bet is still on. root beer right? top shelf of course

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by hagan714 okay whoodi. like i said the bet is still on. root beer right? top shelf of course Refresh my memory on the bet.

08-30-2006, 09:34 AM	#80
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,369	Am I the only one who thinks the Mgmt MAY have pulled the trigger too quick on this one? Things to consider: 1- New quarterback = timing/velocity issues. Face it, Brees has been less than stellar thus far. If you give him a little time to adjust, shouldn't his receivers be given the same leeway? 2- Old quarterback = crap for stats. If you had a QB that could actually THROW the ball to a man, this wouldn't be an issue. We had AB. 'nuff said there. 3- New LB = poor pass defender/ no speed for pass rush/ undersized for stopping runs without a stud SS to assist. and last but not least, 4- The Curse = Donte will go to Philly and become a receiving god to rival his Dad's legacy, and we'll be watching Horn free agent his way out of NOLA. Lived 15 mins from Philly all my live and believe me, having watched Simoneaux play, he is definitely NOT the answer to our defense woes! Talk to me people...