Stallworth Trade?

LSUJeremy · 08-29-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by LKelley67

I'm glad to see the FO taking action and doing what needs to be done. If he wasn't going to be extended then get the best deal ya can for him. We coulda had a second for Darren Howard before last season. The highest paid center in history walked away with the team getting zero compensation. The Pats were supposedly in the bidding too so I am sure they took the best deal. It is actually more than I would have guessed. Simoneau will have an impact now, not next year. C'mon and get him signed Philly before you count the bobble'n drops to make it a 3rd.

The WR situation certainly cleared up quickly

Horn---------Henderson
Colston------Jones
Hass---------C. Horn

Moore, Practice Squad

Johnson and Beerman, PUP to start the year

On the PUP list - Looking at the Priest Holmes article on ESPN the other day they said something like you can't put a player on the PUP list unless he's missed all of the preseason, or something along those lines. I don't think Bethel Johnson can go on that list.

Bobaganoosh · 08-29-2006, 03:27 PM

You have to keep them on the PUP list for the first 6 weeks and then he has to be activated, cut, or placed on IR meaning he will be out the entire season. i dont think you will see the Saints do that with anyone...espiecally Michael Lewis.

gandhi1007 · 08-29-2006, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/sports/15386022.htm

Interesting comments in this article,

"The fast impression of 2006 seventh-round pick Marques Colston, Payton said, made dealing Stallworth a bit easier. When asked if Colston would be the No. 2 receiver, Payton said, "Right now, no question."

Now.....I'm not one to say I told you guys so..... well, okay.......yes I am.

I told you Colston was going to take that #2 WR spot!!! :P

saintswhodi · 08-29-2006, 04:23 PM

I hate you all.

gandhi1007 · 08-29-2006, 04:50 PM

It's okay, whodi. Donte will continue to drop balls in Philly & Colston will do nothing but catch touchdowns for our beloved Saints.

saintswhodi · 08-29-2006, 04:55 PM

Donte will be a stud in Philly. My only wish was to see him at some point play with better coaches and a better QB. Too bad we had to send him to Philly for it to happen. But if it was about his attitude, then too bad Donte. You got a big head for no reason if that's the case.

nola_swammi · 08-29-2006, 05:12 PM

If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick.

I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick.

GoldRush26 · 08-29-2006, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick.

I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick.

Unreal. What did you guys think we were going to get a first or second rounder for him just because he was a first rounder? I think that if we get the third for him then I'm happy. You heard Joe Horn say it himself....the guy had no professionalism. Was he just going to all of a sudden change next year? Do we really want him to be a negative influence to Reggie?

Odds are he wasn't going to resign with us and he was going to walk for nada. I'd think you guys would've learned from Darren Howard.

saintswhodi · 08-29-2006, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick.

I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick.

Unreal. What did you guys think we were going to get a first or second rounder for him just because he was a first rounder? I think that if we get the third for him then I'm happy. You heard Joe Horn say it himself....the guy had no professionalism. Was he just going to all of a sudden change next year? Do we really want him to be a negative influence to Reggie?

Odds are he wasn't going to resign with us and he was going to walk for nada. I'd think you guys would've learned from Darren Howard.

Wait, you took ONE GUY'S quote and attributed it to "you guys?" Slow your roll................

GoldRush26 · 08-29-2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

Originally Posted by GoldRush26

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick.

I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick.

Unreal. What did you guys think we were going to get a first or second rounder for him just because he was a first rounder? I think that if we get the third for him then I'm happy. You heard Joe Horn say it himself....the guy had no professionalism. Was he just going to all of a sudden change next year? Do we really want him to be a negative influence to Reggie?

Odds are he wasn't going to resign with us and he was going to walk for nada. I'd think you guys would've learned from Darren Howard.

Wait, you took ONE GUY'S quote and attributed it to "you guys?" Slow your roll................

I'm applying it to everyone who thinks that he wasn't going to walk next year and we got hosed with this trade. That's who "you guys" is refering to. No reason to get all butthurt over it.

It's just a business decision....why are so many people getting all emotional about this. Brooks, Sullivan, now Stallworth. All of them had attitude problems that weren't worth their talent.

08-29-2006, 01:35 PM	#61
LSUJeremy 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 472	Originally Posted by LKelley67 I'm glad to see the FO taking action and doing what needs to be done. If he wasn't going to be extended then get the best deal ya can for him. We coulda had a second for Darren Howard before last season. The highest paid center in history walked away with the team getting zero compensation. The Pats were supposedly in the bidding too so I am sure they took the best deal. It is actually more than I would have guessed. Simoneau will have an impact now, not next year. C'mon and get him signed Philly before you count the bobble'n drops to make it a 3rd. The WR situation certainly cleared up quickly Horn---------Henderson Colston------Jones Hass---------C. Horn Moore, Practice Squad Johnson and Beerman, PUP to start the year On the PUP list - Looking at the Priest Holmes article on ESPN the other day they said something like you can't put a player on the PUP list unless he's missed all of the preseason, or something along those lines. I don't think Bethel Johnson can go on that list.
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08-29-2006, 03:48 PM	#63
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by biloxi-indian http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/sports/15386022.htm Interesting comments in this article, "The fast impression of 2006 seventh-round pick Marques Colston, Payton said, made dealing Stallworth a bit easier. When asked if Colston would be the No. 2 receiver, Payton said, "Right now, no question." Now.....I'm not one to say I told you guys so..... well, okay.......yes I am. I told you Colston was going to take that #2 WR spot!!! :P

08-29-2006, 05:30 PM	#68
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by nola_swammi If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick. I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick. Unreal. What did you guys think we were going to get a first or second rounder for him just because he was a first rounder? I think that if we get the third for him then I'm happy. You heard Joe Horn say it himself....the guy had no professionalism. Was he just going to all of a sudden change next year? Do we really want him to be a negative influence to Reggie? Odds are he wasn't going to resign with us and he was going to walk for nada. I'd think you guys would've learned from Darren Howard.
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08-29-2006, 05:42 PM	#69
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Originally Posted by nola_swammi If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick. I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick. Unreal. What did you guys think we were going to get a first or second rounder for him just because he was a first rounder? I think that if we get the third for him then I'm happy. You heard Joe Horn say it himself....the guy had no professionalism. Was he just going to all of a sudden change next year? Do we really want him to be a negative influence to Reggie? Odds are he wasn't going to resign with us and he was going to walk for nada. I'd think you guys would've learned from Darren Howard. Wait, you took ONE GUY'S quote and attributed it to "you guys?" Slow your roll................

08-29-2006, 05:52 PM	#70
GoldRush26 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 594	Originally Posted by saintswhodi Originally Posted by GoldRush26 Originally Posted by nola_swammi If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick. I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick. Unreal. What did you guys think we were going to get a first or second rounder for him just because he was a first rounder? I think that if we get the third for him then I'm happy. You heard Joe Horn say it himself....the guy had no professionalism. Was he just going to all of a sudden change next year? Do we really want him to be a negative influence to Reggie? Odds are he wasn't going to resign with us and he was going to walk for nada. I'd think you guys would've learned from Darren Howard. Wait, you took ONE GUY'S quote and attributed it to "you guys?" Slow your roll................ I'm applying it to everyone who thinks that he wasn't going to walk next year and we got hosed with this trade. That's who "you guys" is refering to. No reason to get all butthurt over it. It's just a business decision....why are so many people getting all emotional about this. Brooks, Sullivan, now Stallworth. All of them had attitude problems that weren't worth their talent.
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gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	It's okay, whodi. Donte will continue to drop balls in Philly & Colston will do nothing but catch touchdowns for our beloved Saints.

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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Donte will be a stud in Philly. My only wish was to see him at some point play with better coaches and a better QB. Too bad we had to send him to Philly for it to happen. But if it was about his attitude, then too bad Donte. You got a big head for no reason if that's the case.

08-29-2006, 05:12 PM	#67
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	If I was Benson I will be upset at Loomis for paying out all that bonus money for players that don't even last to end of the contract(Sully, Brooks, Smith, Stallworth, Watson) and don't get anything in return. People can say that they are not worth anything, then my argument with Loomis will be who drafted them? It just don't make any sense to trade Donte for a 4th rd pick. I can see it now 08 when they release Deuce for a 4th rd pick.