Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now?

Budsdrinker · 11-06-2007, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Thats easy... Colts D finished 5th last season. The mark of a champion.

Again those numbers are misleading. You have to watch the games and see how the teams come out against us. They come out throwing and several times before running the ball. They are pass happy against us. They get 2-3 TD's ahead and they can relax as we have to go one dimensional on them with a pass happy offense which caused turnovers... all the stats are misleading based on what the teams do/game plan against us.

BIG PICTURE is really important and what other teams are doing to us.

I also thank you for your debating and not making personal attacks.

This is a forum to discuss a game. It should never be personal!!

Turbo Saint · 11-06-2007, 01:17 PM

sounds like euph is calling for us to somehow get glenn dorsey...he's always double teamed

and would be a damn good asset.

Euphoria · 11-06-2007, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Turbo Saint

sounds like euph is calling for us to somehow get glenn dorsey...he's always double teamed and would be a damn good asset.

Well not yet but he is on my radar but will we have a high enough pick to snag him???

I seriously can be happy with that but any TOP O line man or D linemen and I would be happy. We got to get pressure upfront and we have got to get some blocking (downfield).

You have to command/demand some double teams on the line of scrimmage its the real way you get penatration and blitz going.

WhoDat205 · 11-06-2007, 02:04 PM

Just watched all of J'ville's pass plays from Sunday (up until CBS cut to the Bengals game). There were 4 blitzes:

1. Result was a hurry and an "injury" to Gray.
2. Gray was pressured and sacked, the result was a holding penalty.
3. Hurry, but Gray got it off for a 5 yd gain, result was a 4th down attempt, int, TD.
4. This was a nickle blitz from Craft. Gray saw it, hit the slot on the out for a TD.

Every other play we brought 4 rushers against 6 blockers.

WhoDat205 · 11-06-2007, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Well not yet but he is on my radar but will we have a high enough pick to snag him???

I seriously can be happy with that but any TOP O line man or D linemen and I would be happy. We got to get pressure upfront and we have got to get some blocking (downfield).

You have to command/demand some double teams on the line of scrimmage its the real way you get penatration and blitz going.

Dorsey's out of the question. He's top three and will probably go to MIA or STL. The worst part about that is that MIA will probably take Ryan or Woodson and STL will get GD. That leaves either the Jets or the Falcons getting D-Mac. Consider me a part-time Falcons fan until 12/10.

Now, how can you seriously say that DL and OL are the places we need players? Because of screen passes and pass D? Talk about seeing the "big picture". Who's covering the recievers? Isn't CB a position if dire need? If you want more pressure, what about LB? The only way to blitz is to blitz. Maybe a DT to get ready for HT to retire...maybe, but not in the first round.

As for the OL, they're one of the best in the league, period. Five sack in 8 games - one of which is dubious at best - is outstanding especially if you consider the poor play in the first three games (which can be partially credited to the overly complicated blocking schemes that were later taken out). The only QB's that have been sacked less are Matt Leinart and Kurt Warner who both have 4....and play for the same team. The crazy thing about it is, there's deapth on the line. Strief and Goodwin are quaility backups and who knows how Alleman and Bushrod will turn out. They're young, too. The only one over 28 is Nesbit who's 30.

You can never have too many OL-men, but we need a back-up QB and a power RB just as bad.

11-06-2007, 04:09 PM	#1
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by Euphoria Thats easy... Colts D finished 5th last season. The mark of a champion. Again those numbers are misleading. You have to watch the games and see how the teams come out against us. They come out throwing and several times before running the ball. They are pass happy against us. They get 2-3 TD's ahead and they can relax as we have to go one dimensional on them with a pass happy offense which caused turnovers... all the stats are misleading based on what the teams do/game plan against us. BIG PICTURE is really important and what other teams are doing to us. I also thank you for your debating and not making personal attacks. This is a forum to discuss a game. It should never be personal!!

11-06-2007, 01:17 PM	#2
Turbo Saint SoCal Saint Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: OB - San Diego, CA Posts: 726	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? sounds like euph is calling for us to somehow get glenn dorsey...he's always double teamed and would be a damn good asset.

11-06-2007, 01:55 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by Turbo Saint sounds like euph is calling for us to somehow get glenn dorsey...he's always double teamed and would be a damn good asset. Well not yet but he is on my radar but will we have a high enough pick to snag him??? I seriously can be happy with that but any TOP O line man or D linemen and I would be happy. We got to get pressure upfront and we have got to get some blocking (downfield). You have to command/demand some double teams on the line of scrimmage its the real way you get penatration and blitz going.

11-06-2007, 02:04 PM	#4
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Just watched all of J'ville's pass plays from Sunday (up until CBS cut to the Bengals game). There were 4 blitzes: 1. Result was a hurry and an "injury" to Gray. 2. Gray was pressured and sacked, the result was a holding penalty. 3. Hurry, but Gray got it off for a 5 yd gain, result was a 4th down attempt, int, TD. 4. This was a nickle blitz from Craft. Gray saw it, hit the slot on the out for a TD. Every other play we brought 4 rushers against 6 blockers.

11-06-2007, 02:52 PM	#5
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by Euphoria Well not yet but he is on my radar but will we have a high enough pick to snag him??? I seriously can be happy with that but any TOP O line man or D linemen and I would be happy. We got to get pressure upfront and we have got to get some blocking (downfield). You have to command/demand some double teams on the line of scrimmage its the real way you get penatration and blitz going. Dorsey's out of the question. He's top three and will probably go to MIA or STL. The worst part about that is that MIA will probably take Ryan or Woodson and STL will get GD. That leaves either the Jets or the Falcons getting D-Mac. Consider me a part-time Falcons fan until 12/10. Now, how can you seriously say that DL and OL are the places we need players? Because of screen passes and pass D? Talk about seeing the "big picture". Who's covering the recievers? Isn't CB a position if dire need? If you want more pressure, what about LB? The only way to blitz is to blitz. Maybe a DT to get ready for HT to retire...maybe, but not in the first round. As for the OL, they're one of the best in the league, period. Five sack in 8 games - one of which is dubious at best - is outstanding especially if you consider the poor play in the first three games (which can be partially credited to the overly complicated blocking schemes that were later taken out). The only QB's that have been sacked less are Matt Leinart and Kurt Warner who both have 4....and play for the same team. The crazy thing about it is, there's deapth on the line. Strief and Goodwin are quaility backups and who knows how Alleman and Bushrod will turn out. They're young, too. The only one over 28 is Nesbit who's 30. You can never have too many OL-men, but we need a back-up QB and a power RB just as bad.
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