Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now?

Euphoria · 11-06-2007, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

My last response to this I promise.
In the 4 losses the Colts were almost perfectly balanced with 29 rushes and 30 passes. The other 3 losses were 32 rush to 16 pass, 34 rush to 26 pass, 28 rush to 19 pass. The major difference was turnovers on offense. The 4 wins which in all the games except Atlanta the opp. was playing catch up and they threw more. 21 rush to 43 pass, 24 rush to 41 pass, 21 rush to 43 pass, 23 rush to 33 pass. Seattle and the 49's threw the most with 43 attempts each with a yard per catch of 6.9 and 3.9 yards per catch respectively. Yes stats can be misleading but the defense isn't that bad and by the way what was the Colt's defense ranked last year?

Thats easy... Colts D finished 5th last season. The mark of a champion.

Again those numbers are misleading. You have to watch the games and see how the teams come out against us. They come out throwing and several times before running the ball. They are pass happy against us. They get 2-3 TD's ahead and they can relax as we have to go one dimensional on them with a pass happy offense which caused turnovers... all the stats are misleading based on what the teams do/game plan against us.

BIG PICTURE is really important and what other teams are doing to us.

I also thank you for your debating and not making personal attacks.

WhoDat205 · 11-06-2007, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Thats easy... Colts D finished 5th last season. The mark of a champion.

Again those numbers are misleading. You have to watch the games and see how the teams come out against us. They come out throwing and several times before running the ball. They are pass happy against us. They get 2-3 TD's ahead and they can relax as we have to go one dimensional on them with a pass happy offense which caused turnovers... all the stats are misleading based on what the teams do/game plan against us.

BIG PICTURE is really important and what other teams are doing to us.

I also thank you for your debating and not making personal attacks.

The Colts were 21st, actually.

ESPN - NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League

papz · 11-06-2007, 04:33 PM

Stats can be misleading WhoDat205... and stats are for losers.

iceshack149 · 11-06-2007, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

You are correct sir. They held the last 7 opponents to under 100 yards: 1) Tampa Bay 87, 2) Tennessee 98, 3) Carolina 88, 4) Seattle 92, 5) Atlanta 75, 6) San Francisco 83, 7) Jacksonville 88.

These are great stats! Carnell Williams, Young-White-Brown, Foster-Williams, Alexander, Dunn-Norwood, Gore, and the biggest task: Taylor and Jones-Drew.

That's a good run defense.

Budsdrinker · 11-06-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Thats easy... Colts D finished 5th last season. The mark of a champion.

Again those numbers are misleading. You have to watch the games and see how the teams come out against us. They come out throwing and several times before running the ball. They are pass happy against us. They get 2-3 TD's ahead and they can relax as we have to go one dimensional on them with a pass happy offense which caused turnovers... all the stats are misleading based on what the teams do/game plan against us.

BIG PICTURE is really important and what other teams are doing to us.

I also thank you for your debating and not making personal attacks.

This is a forum to discuss a game. It should never be personal!!

Euphoria · 11-06-2007, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat205

The Colts were 21st, actually.

ESPN - NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League

actually you are right... I was looking at the wrong thing.

but here is what I mean but stats that are misleading. I can also say that I am right based on TOTAL Yards per game which the Colts were ranked 5th and the Saints 21st in 2006 Still a HUGE difference.

cadilacin · 11-06-2007, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by blacksaint

First of all, let's stop this crap about a no named QB, the Jaguars game plan is never, ever, about the QB. Please, refresh my memory here, who is David Garrard? I mean, I know he is their starter but, he was as much of a nobody as Grey before he got his chance. How many Pro Bowls have Garrard played in? I just don't think Garrard would've made any kind of difference in the game, not the way the Saints were playing. I mean the Jags had enough confidence in Grey as a backup to let Leftwich go without blinking, bottom line the Saints shut down one of the best rushing offenses in the NFL and it had nothing to do with their QB. And PLEASE, stop saying that they were way behind and abandoned the run, it was still a game when Jones-Drew ran that kickoff back, they had the momentum and still couldn't generate a rushing game. 4 - 4, and yet they're still not playing good ball? Well, if they can run off another 8 wins playing the way they are, I'll be right right there with my Black and Gold umbrella doing the Benson Boogie in the middle of Canal st. WHO DAT!!!!!!!

Blacksaint...it's all good dawg...we 4-4 after that horrible start. The Defense is ballin!!

The people posting all this negative foolishness is just trying to justify the negative foolishness they were posting when we were 0-4.

Yeah...at first we were playing bad....but guess what...NOW WE ARE NOT!!!

I'm am really enjoying the way we are handling that early season adversity. This shows me that we have LEADERS on this team.

We've won 4 straight!!!!

Enjoy this...I am!

And for all you nay sayers....don't hate....just go post on the carolina panthers site or something....cause us BLACKANDGOLD lovers is Loving this WINNING STREAK!

WHO DAT!!!!

11-06-2007, 04:15 PM	#51
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker My last response to this I promise. In the 4 losses the Colts were almost perfectly balanced with 29 rushes and 30 passes. The other 3 losses were 32 rush to 16 pass, 34 rush to 26 pass, 28 rush to 19 pass. The major difference was turnovers on offense. The 4 wins which in all the games except Atlanta the opp. was playing catch up and they threw more. 21 rush to 43 pass, 24 rush to 41 pass, 21 rush to 43 pass, 23 rush to 33 pass. Seattle and the 49's threw the most with 43 attempts each with a yard per catch of 6.9 and 3.9 yards per catch respectively. Yes stats can be misleading but the defense isn't that bad and by the way what was the Colt's defense ranked last year? Thats easy... Colts D finished 5th last season. The mark of a champion. Again those numbers are misleading. You have to watch the games and see how the teams come out against us. They come out throwing and several times before running the ball. They are pass happy against us. They get 2-3 TD's ahead and they can relax as we have to go one dimensional on them with a pass happy offense which caused turnovers... all the stats are misleading based on what the teams do/game plan against us. BIG PICTURE is really important and what other teams are doing to us. I also thank you for your debating and not making personal attacks.
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11-06-2007, 04:24 PM	#52
WhoDat205 Prediction Pain Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,082 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by Euphoria Thats easy... Colts D finished 5th last season. The mark of a champion. Again those numbers are misleading. You have to watch the games and see how the teams come out against us. They come out throwing and several times before running the ball. They are pass happy against us. They get 2-3 TD's ahead and they can relax as we have to go one dimensional on them with a pass happy offense which caused turnovers... all the stats are misleading based on what the teams do/game plan against us. BIG PICTURE is really important and what other teams are doing to us. I also thank you for your debating and not making personal attacks. The Colts were 21st, actually. ESPN - NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League

11-06-2007, 04:33 PM	#53
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,743	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Stats can be misleading WhoDat205... and stats are for losers.

11-06-2007, 04:52 PM	#54
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,254 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by blacksaint You are correct sir. They held the last 7 opponents to under 100 yards: 1) Tampa Bay 87, 2) Tennessee 98, 3) Carolina 88, 4) Seattle 92, 5) Atlanta 75, 6) San Francisco 83, 7) Jacksonville 88. These are great stats! Carnell Williams, Young-White-Brown, Foster-Williams, Alexander, Dunn-Norwood, Gore, and the biggest task: Taylor and Jones-Drew. That's a good run defense.

11-06-2007, 05:09 PM	#55
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by Euphoria Thats easy... Colts D finished 5th last season. The mark of a champion. Again those numbers are misleading. You have to watch the games and see how the teams come out against us. They come out throwing and several times before running the ball. They are pass happy against us. They get 2-3 TD's ahead and they can relax as we have to go one dimensional on them with a pass happy offense which caused turnovers... all the stats are misleading based on what the teams do/game plan against us. BIG PICTURE is really important and what other teams are doing to us. I also thank you for your debating and not making personal attacks. This is a forum to discuss a game. It should never be personal!!

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11-06-2007, 05:29 PM	#56
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by WhoDat205 The Colts were 21st, actually. ESPN - NFL Football Statistics and League Leaders - National Football League actually you are right... I was looking at the wrong thing. but here is what I mean but stats that are misleading. I can also say that I am right based on TOTAL Yards per game which the Colts were ranked 5th and the Saints 21st in 2006 Still a HUGE difference.

11-06-2007, 06:07 PM	#57
cadilacin "Real Talk" Join Date: May 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 148	Re: Who Thinks Our D-Line Suck Now? Originally Posted by blacksaint First of all, let's stop this crap about a no named QB, the Jaguars game plan is never, ever, about the QB. Please, refresh my memory here, who is David Garrard? I mean, I know he is their starter but, he was as much of a nobody as Grey before he got his chance. How many Pro Bowls have Garrard played in? I just don't think Garrard would've made any kind of difference in the game, not the way the Saints were playing. I mean the Jags had enough confidence in Grey as a backup to let Leftwich go without blinking, bottom line the Saints shut down one of the best rushing offenses in the NFL and it had nothing to do with their QB. And PLEASE, stop saying that they were way behind and abandoned the run, it was still a game when Jones-Drew ran that kickoff back, they had the momentum and still couldn't generate a rushing game. 4 - 4, and yet they're still not playing good ball? Well, if they can run off another 8 wins playing the way they are, I'll be right right there with my Black and Gold umbrella doing the Benson Boogie in the middle of Canal st. WHO DAT!!!!!!! Blacksaint...it's all good dawg...we 4-4 after that horrible start. The Defense is ballin!! The people posting all this negative foolishness is just trying to justify the negative foolishness they were posting when we were 0-4. Yeah...at first we were playing bad....but guess what...NOW WE ARE NOT!!! I'm am really enjoying the way we are handling that early season adversity. This shows me that we have LEADERS on this team. We've won 4 straight!!!! Enjoy this...I am! And for all you nay sayers....don't hate....just go post on the carolina panthers site or something....cause us BLACKANDGOLD lovers is Loving this WINNING STREAK! WHO DAT!!!!
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