shockey to saints trade stalls.. Update on Pg 11

pakowitz · 04-18-2008, 04:32 PM

yea me too.. even tho i like harper at safety over bullocks.. i would be fine with that deal.. shockey for harper.. thats a no brainer

LordOfEntropy · 04-18-2008, 04:50 PM

Through all this, I have to keep wondering - what are we going to do about a starting safety? OK, so Roman walks. And that leaves KK - who played well at the end of last season, so ok, maybe he can become a starter. But who goes along with him? Bullocks should never have been a starter to begin with. He stinks, and I don't even want him as a backup.

So we're down (at least) one starting safety. Maybe two. With no backups. And on top of that, we're less another draft pick...

Doesn't that scare anyone else around here?

pakowitz · 04-18-2008, 05:09 PM

yes.. im hoping they move bullocks to SS and im guessing they resign jay bellamy for depth

lsutigerfan · 04-18-2008, 05:09 PM

I agree with what you're saying but if you can get shockey for harper and a 2nd day pick that highway robbery if you ask me. then we can take a guy like Brandon Phillips in the 2nd round.

Champ Kind · 04-18-2008, 05:14 PM

Did you mean Kenny Phillips?

lsutigerfan · 04-18-2008, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Champ Kind

Did you mean Kenny Phillips?

LOL....Sorry Kenny Phillips.

papz · 04-18-2008, 05:18 PM

Bullocks plays the run better than Harper and is a better tackler. You can rag on his cover skills and butter fingers all you want... but you can't deny this. He was also very effective blitzing the quarterback when asked to do so. Sliding him over to SS would be a good move and drafting Harper's replacement can be done in the second or third round. I mean most of the folks here think the world of KK, let him start at FS.

I'm fine with Harper for Shockey... but no way with a second round pick with it. I like Harper... I'd rather see him succeed as a Saint. But if it's going to net us Shockey, I think you do it.

BRSaintsFan · 04-18-2008, 05:18 PM

Assuming whomever we take at 10 is on the defensive side and will start, getting Phillips in the 2nd to rotate in with Bullocks and KK would be a formidable move, especially while adding yet another matchup problem for the offense to play with.

gandhi1007 · 04-18-2008, 05:24 PM

I'd rather snag Dajuan Morgan in the 2nd round than Phillips.

jeanpierre · 04-18-2008, 07:26 PM

Dave...this is H.A.L. ........

Readings on the progression of the Saints indicate the following...

Randall Gay will be moved to Safety (as he has done before) in a pinch, which leads me to conclude Mike McKenzie, Usama Young, Aaron Glenn, Jason Craft, Draft Pick #2, and yes, Jason David are your 2008 Cornerbacks...

Have a Nice Day, Dave...

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04-18-2008, 05:09 PM	#63
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Re: shockey to saints? New Update on Page 6!! yes.. im hoping they move bullocks to SS and im guessing they resign jay bellamy for depth

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