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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by TheDeuce Don't want it to affect our draft too much? What does that mean? The draft is a tool for helping the franchise, and adding a Pro Bowl playmaker helps the franchise. I'd say completely forfeit all ...

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Old 04-11-2008, 12:08 AM   #41
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Don't want it to affect our draft too much? What does that mean? The draft is a tool for helping the franchise, and adding a Pro Bowl playmaker helps the franchise. I'd say completely forfeit all of our picks if we can get proven guys like Shockey or Lito Sheppard.
The only think Shocky has proven is that he isn't needed to win a SB. Sure amazing talent but it doesn't translate into SB's. He gets hurt - out for the season, team gets him out the locker room and team goes on to win it all... so I am at a lost to why we need him at all?
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I think I might honestly hate Euphoria.

LOL. I'm sorry I just don't understand "The only thing Shocky has proven is that he isn't needed to win a SB." That's fairly ridiculous if you ask me.
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I think I might honestly hate Euphoria.

LOL. I'm sorry I just don't understand "The only thing Shocky has proven is that he isn't needed to win a SB." That's fairly ridiculous if you ask me.
Believe me you wouldn't be the only one around here... LOL!

But its true. He didn't get them there, no? He didn't play in the playoffs, no? He didn't win the SB for them, no? If you are suppose to be a difference maker and so dominate then why wasn't he needed???

You really can't argue the point?
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Believe me you wouldn't be the only one around here... LOL!

But its true. He didn't get them there, no? He didn't play in the playoffs, no? He didn't win the SB for them, no? If you are suppose to be a difference maker and so dominate then why wasn't he needed???

You really can't argue the point?
No...but they will anyway. Why? Because the little clique has decided that's who they want. Never mind logic with these cats.

There is one consolation for those of sound mind that can see past the glitter. When he starts waving his hands around in the air as defenders race past him with INT's, or when he is on the sideline pouting and showing up his QB, or when he is in Miami training while the rest of the team is in NO...we can sit back and laugh and say, "I tried to tell you, but NOOOOOOOOO!!"

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Old 04-11-2008, 07:57 AM   #45
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Believe me you wouldn't be the only one around here... LOL!

But its true. He didn't get them there, no? He didn't play in the playoffs, no? He didn't win the SB for them, no? If you are suppose to be a difference maker and so dominate then why wasn't he needed???

You really can't argue the point?
Now now everything will be alright. I like reading your minority reports. LOL They do get you thinking. really

As for a superbowl ring lady luck was not on his side. I think it boils down to a personality clash in the locker room.
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Old 04-11-2008, 08:13 AM   #46
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Bottom line is this.....If and when he joins this Saints football team he will be asked to do a job and conduct himself in a certain way as an employee of the New Orleans Saints. If he fails to do so I'm sure this head coach and GM will take the appropiate steps to fix the problem with Mr. Shockey.....so relax people either way it goes.lol
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ProFootballTalk.com - SHOCKEY TO SAINTS STILL SIMMERING?

SHOCKEY TO SAINTS STILL SIMMERING?
Posted by Mike Florio on April 10, 2008, 9:02 a.m.
Last month, there were rumors and reports of discussions between the New Orleans Saints and New York Giants regarding a possible trade that would send tight end Jeremy Shockey from Broadway to the Bayou.

As we’d last heard it, the Giants wanted a second-round pick and safety Roman Harper, and the Saints declined.

But now renewed talk of a possible trade is emerging, from an unlikely source. Several readers have pointed out to us that WWE announcer Jim Ross has posted the following entry on his blog: “Reggie Bush was also at [WrestleMania] 24 and was hanging around Snoop Dogg’s trailer most of the afternoon on Sunday. My sources tell me that the New York Giants are going to trade outstanding TE Jeremy Shockey to Bush’s Saints, prior to the NFL draft. Shockey is an Oklahoma kid from Ada who told me last week he was looking forward to playing for the Saints.”

Shockey has been the subject of extensive speculation, given that he played no role in the team’s stunning postseason run. Some believe that Eli Manning never would have become a championship-caliber quarterback is Shockey had not been injured.

DALLAS COWBOYS Blog | The Dallas Morning News

Shockey to the Saints?
2:18 PM Thu, Apr 10, 2008 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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You won't believe this. Maybe you shouldn't. I didn't when I saw it linked on Pro Football Talk. Jeremy Shockey is reportedly being traded to the Saints. But that's not the stunning part of this news. It's who's "breaking" it.

">That's right, it's WWE announcer Jim Ross. He says his "sources" are saying the deal's going to happen. Now, while I certainly appreciate his sentiments in the paragraph above the one with the Shockey news, I'm having a hard time swallowing that these sources are anyone but Shockey and his buddies.

This trade has been rumored for some time, so I certainly wouldn't rule it out. And after his show-stopping performance from a luxury suite at the Super Bowl -- during which he set a modern record for amount of girly drinks ordered by a pro football player -- the potential for hijinx with Shockey in the Big Easy would be off the charts.

Here's guessing Roy Williams wouldn't be heart-broken with his departure from New York either.

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Consider the sources and place in context...

Though Florio has been able to sniff out a match strike in a National Forest, there's something there...

I say the Saints probably would swap No. 1's to get out of the early first round money and then maybe send Harper to close the deal given FA signing Kaesviharn a chance to play; thing is with Giants needs at Safety, Kenny Phillips of "The U" is currently projected a late 1, second rounder...

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Believe me you wouldn't be the only one around here... LOL!

But its true. He didn't get them there, no? He didn't play in the playoffs, no? He didn't win the SB for them, no? If you are suppose to be a difference maker and so dominate then why wasn't he needed???

You really can't argue the point?


yes you can... Tiki Barber was easily their best offensive player last year and also clashed with coaches n some players.. he retired.. Giants win the SB...

they had both shockey and tiki last year and didnt really do jack...

so that shows you that football is a TEAM game and not about one single player... all the "great" players are great b/c they have other good or great players around them... shockey has clashed with the giants coaches and some players, mainly eli, which is why he played better after shockey got hurt.... that happens.. not everyone will get along on a team... that doesnt mean that it couldnt happen here...

i just dont see how you can fault a player for saying things about other coaches or players that are true... ex. when shockey said they there out played and out coached by the eagles.. everyone hammered him.. but anyone who watched that game would know that he was right.. they were out played and outcoached.. and it looked like he was the only one trying to win.. it was like everyone on the team just gave up

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im all for swapping number #1s for shockey, but giving up harper in the deal is stupid. harper is one of the very few bright spots on our D and we dont get better on that side of the ball by trading him.

plus trading number 1s would free up the money we'll have to pay at the #10 spot. this will give us more room to work with the contracts for smith, colston, and evans. i still think its important we get one, if not two, of those guys resigned this year.
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Old 04-11-2008, 10:07 AM   #50
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NO way 10 to 31! that is 700 points or the 26th pick in round 1. Come on we got Vilma for a 2nd rounder at the most. I go 19 ( philli) then to 31.
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