shockey to saints trade stalls.. Update on Pg 11

ssmitty · 04-05-2008, 02:06 PM

Don’t completely dismiss the Giants-Saints trade rumors involving Giants TE Jeremy Shockey. Although the trade as discussed — Shockey to New Orleans for SS Roman Harper and the 40th pick — probably won’t happen, we’re told that there was dialogue on that subject.

source.............NFL pro football and NCAA college football coverage from Pro Football Weekly

and if it's by pfw you can gul dern think what you want.................

Euphoria · 04-05-2008, 02:12 PM

As great as he is or CAN be, he is such the cancer as well. I sure hope Payton knows what he is doing because if this guy thinks he can do what he did in NY not working out ect with the team... come on.

He had to get hurt in order for the team to rally and win the SB, lol.

BlackandBlue · 04-09-2008, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

As great as he is or CAN be, he is such the cancer as well.

I took this from the first page of this thread... but this is not the first time I've read such comments.

I cannot think of any reason why this wouldn't be a great deal for the Saints. With Brees at the helm, and believe me, this is his ship, you won't have a QB that's pushed around like you did in New York. It would be nice to have a legitimate receiving threat at the TE position, Eric Johnson was ok, didn't have a great year as I had hoped, and there weren't any other teams beating down his door this offseason. And a little attitude outside of Will Smith wouldn't hurt either.
If this was Strahan in his prime, instead of Shockey, not a one of you would strong arm this trade. Yet he's pulled similar stunts, so why is he exempt?

hagan714 · 04-05-2008, 07:12 PM

Our #1 for #32 thats 710 points from the chart
#40 is worth 500 points.That should equal Shockey and the quality of player we are loosing.
That leaves 210 points.
Pick #95 = 120 pts
Add a third in 2009 and it is a done deal.

lsutigerfan · 04-06-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Our #1 for #32 thats 710 points from the chart
#40 is worth 500 points.That should equal Shockey and the quality of player we are loosing.
That leaves 210 points.
Pick #95 = 120 pts
Add a third in 2009 and it is a done deal.

The problem with that is our 2009 3rd maybe headed to the jets in the Vilma trade depending on how many games he plays in.

hagan714 · 04-09-2008, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

The problem with that is our 2009 3rd maybe headed to the jets in the Vilma trade depending on how many games he plays in.

Nope that is a 3rd from NYG

hagan714 · 04-05-2008, 07:16 PM

No I don't have links to confirm & nor do I really care if he goes to the saints or not I just wanted to share my story.

I was passing thru DFW "Dallas Fort Worth International" yesterday on business. Having a few beers & getting ready to order some food when this huge person walks in & sets down next to me. I glanced over & immediately knew it was shockey from the tat's.

He ordered a double margarita & two shots of petron & asked where the owner of the place was "apperently a friend of his that he was going to sign autographs for". The owner wasn't around so he had his drinks & asked to borrow one of the waitresses cell phone "said he lost his in the bahamas where he was flying from".

He called Drew Rosenhaus & started discussing something pretty heatedly & then told him to get it done or he would find someone that could. Somebody asked him if he was going back to NYG, Shockey smiled and lauged & said he was going to be traded. Either to the saints, raiders, tampa bay, or denver.

He started out real friendly signing some autgraphs for kids & then he turned into what I expected, a jerk. He was cussing profusely "mind you this wasn't just a bar it was a restaurant that had a bar in the middle.

Right before I left I asked him who was the hardest hitter in the NFL & he said "Sean Taylor, the best football player ever" quote.

I told him I was a Cowboys fan & he started dogging on Roy HARD. Saying he was out of shape & fat.

Anyways I got on the plane to Oklahoma City & noticed he was on the plane too. As I passed him I asked him if he was going to be a Saint & he put his finger up to his lips like shhhhhh.

I don't know why he would be spouting off in an airport about a trade but I though it was interesting none the less. First pro athlete I had ever met & he was about like I figured, full of himself & very cocky....ahhh the life of a pro athlete.

Scout.com: Dallas Forums List

Ok this is just he said she said stuff but that what we are all about.

Ashley · 04-05-2008, 07:47 PM

Hagan, thats a great story to read. I hope we dont get that bum. YES HE IS A GOOD PLAYER, but thats it. Do we bring in a problem child ?? I dont know, plus i dont want us to use any more of or picks unless we move up for Ellis.

QBREES9 · 04-05-2008, 08:47 PM

JUST SAY NO ! To the shockey deal. NO DEAL !!!

LongTimeFan · 04-05-2008, 08:56 PM

Great player when healthy but lately he's been hurt more often than not..
and besides that he's a cancer to his team, we don't need him..

04-05-2008, 02:06 PM	#1
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BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Re: shockey to saints? Originally Posted by Euphoria As great as he is or CAN be, he is such the cancer as well. I took this from the first page of this thread... but this is not the first time I've read such comments. I cannot think of any reason why this wouldn't be a great deal for the Saints. With Brees at the helm, and believe me, this is his ship, you won't have a QB that's pushed around like you did in New York. It would be nice to have a legitimate receiving threat at the TE position, Eric Johnson was ok, didn't have a great year as I had hoped, and there weren't any other teams beating down his door this offseason. And a little attitude outside of Will Smith wouldn't hurt either. If this was Strahan in his prime, instead of Shockey, not a one of you would strong arm this trade. Yet he's pulled similar stunts, so why is he exempt?
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lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: shockey to saints? Originally Posted by hagan714 Our #1 for #32 thats 710 points from the chart #40 is worth 500 points.That should equal Shockey and the quality of player we are loosing. That leaves 210 points. Pick #95 = 120 pts Add a third in 2009 and it is a done deal. The problem with that is our 2009 3rd maybe headed to the jets in the Vilma trade depending on how many games he plays in.

04-09-2008, 09:27 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: shockey to saints? Originally Posted by lsutigerfan The problem with that is our 2009 3rd maybe headed to the jets in the Vilma trade depending on how many games he plays in. Nope that is a 3rd from NYG

04-05-2008, 07:12 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: shockey to saints? Our #1 for #32 thats 710 points from the chart #40 is worth 500 points.That should equal Shockey and the quality of player we are loosing. That leaves 210 points. Pick #95 = 120 pts Add a third in 2009 and it is a done deal.

04-05-2008, 07:16 PM	#7
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: shockey to saints? No I don't have links to confirm & nor do I really care if he goes to the saints or not I just wanted to share my story. I was passing thru DFW "Dallas Fort Worth International" yesterday on business. Having a few beers & getting ready to order some food when this huge person walks in & sets down next to me. I glanced over & immediately knew it was shockey from the tat's. He ordered a double margarita & two shots of petron & asked where the owner of the place was "apperently a friend of his that he was going to sign autographs for". The owner wasn't around so he had his drinks & asked to borrow one of the waitresses cell phone "said he lost his in the bahamas where he was flying from". He called Drew Rosenhaus & started discussing something pretty heatedly & then told him to get it done or he would find someone that could. Somebody asked him if he was going back to NYG, Shockey smiled and lauged & said he was going to be traded. Either to the saints, raiders, tampa bay, or denver. He started out real friendly signing some autgraphs for kids & then he turned into what I expected, a jerk. He was cussing profusely "mind you this wasn't just a bar it was a restaurant that had a bar in the middle. Right before I left I asked him who was the hardest hitter in the NFL & he said "Sean Taylor, the best football player ever" quote. I told him I was a Cowboys fan & he started dogging on Roy HARD. Saying he was out of shape & fat. Anyways I got on the plane to Oklahoma City & noticed he was on the plane too. As I passed him I asked him if he was going to be a Saint & he put his finger up to his lips like shhhhhh. I don't know why he would be spouting off in an airport about a trade but I though it was interesting none the less. First pro athlete I had ever met & he was about like I figured, full of himself & very cocky....ahhh the life of a pro athlete. Scout.com: Dallas Forums List Ok this is just he said she said stuff but that what we are all about.
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04-05-2008, 07:47 PM	#8
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: shockey to saints? Hagan, thats a great story to read. I hope we dont get that bum. YES HE IS A GOOD PLAYER, but thats it. Do we bring in a problem child ?? I dont know, plus i dont want us to use any more of or picks unless we move up for Ellis.

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