2010 NFL Draft

jeanpierre · 02-10-2010, 03:52 AM

Based on some of the early rankings; these are guys that jump out at me...

Jerry Hughes, 6-2/257, OLB TCU
- more than one scout has said "he wants it more than anyone else..."; that's what I want on my team...

Jared Odrick, 6-5/308, DT Penn State
- I like an athletically DT in a 4-3 and this guy reminds me of Keith Millard...

Taylor Mays, 6-4/225, S USC
- Never thought I'd see this guy fall, but that's what another year of film will do; he already has the same coverage skills as Harper, but he actually hits people...you know "remember me"...

saintsfan1976 · 02-10-2010, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Did I say we need Defensive Tackle"s"? Love the Role Players but we need a monster in da middle

A new starting Defensive End? Grant's Gotta Geaux!

A Strong Safety (and possibly) a Free Safety with Sharper a FA? Jenkins, Vaughn enough?

An outside linebacker to groom behind Fujita and Shanle...

A Left Tackle (not sure Jammal is going to stay with no leverage)...

A Center (Goodwin struggled at times)...

And a Wide Receiver?!?

Again, Sedrick Ellis playing one-on-one is a prowbowl season in the making. I love having another DT.

Sharper was hand-picked by G Williams - no way he leaves NO.

OLB - ABSOLUTELY.

"Depth" is the watchword for the OL. Don't get cute, get a jack of all positions.

WR? Hmmmm. Not if the current roster stays intact.

saintsfan1976 · 02-10-2010, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

there are 2 reasons defensive linemen in 3-4s are bigger......1 of them is because there are less of them so they need to take up more space

the 2nd reason is because the defensive linemen need to occupy more blockers so the blitzers can get through

now this season, as a team that runs a base 4-3, we blitzed 49% of the time our defense was on the field. that means we blitzed 2nd most in the entire league behind only the jets.

not only could he stuff the run all by himself, but he would also be able to occupy 2 blockers at a time leaving will smith 1 on 1 as well as a blitzing LB or CB completely unblocked. that is why i want him so badly.

if we played the gary gibbs defense then cody would be a terrible pick because he would have to move, but as a blitzing 4-3 defense, he could occupy 2 gaps and control the line while allowing more options to blitz

I agree with your assessment. However, Cody won't be there at 32.

jeanpierre · 02-12-2010, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by saintpaul25

I'm curious why you think we need another WR?

It's kinda been a running joke with a few of us here on the board about drafting another WR...

Aside from drafting the best player available...

The priorities have to be...

Defensive End (Grant, his troubles, and his contract has got to geaux; we need a pass rush; Has Will Smith had his one good year?)

Defensive Tackle (Sedrick has been okay for a No. 1 pick, but we need more disruption in the middle and someone to free up Vilma)

Strong Safety (in case Chip Vaughn doesn't recover or progress; if Harper could consistently bring the wood would be one thing, but his pass coverage skills are schiott)

Outside Linebacker (Fujita and Shanle can start to develop their heir)

Offensive Line (J Brown has lost leverage and may geaux elsewhere, Goodwin getting it done?)

Running Back (Looming Issues in this department include Reggie's 8 mil, Pierre Thomas being satisfied with his contract, Depth)

WVSaint · 02-12-2010, 01:15 AM

center can wait til next year, from what i read on a draft board theres two damn good centers projected to come out next year, one from usc, the other i dont remember.

another LB would be nice, but im still not sure that arnoux isnt that guy, we never got a chance to see what he could bring.

personally, i hope we go D line in the first whether it be a DE or DT it doesnt matter, both are needed. i know someone mentioned kampman earlier and i think that would be a killer pick up.

taylor mays projection keeps falling and falling from what ive seen and with a little luck maybe he or chad jones falls to the end of the 2nd. though i doubt it.

hagan714 · 02-12-2010, 07:54 AM

SLB, DT, OC, CB, TE,

jeanpierre · 02-12-2010, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by WVSaint

center can wait til next year, from what i read on a draft board theres two damn good centers projected to come out next year, one from usc, the other i dont remember.

another LB would be nice, but im still not sure that arnoux isnt that guy, we never got a chance to see what he could bring.

personally, i hope we go D line in the first whether it be a DE or DT it doesnt matter, both are needed. i know someone mentioned kampman earlier and i think that would be a killer pick up.

taylor mays projection keeps falling and falling from what ive seen and with a little luck maybe he or chad jones falls to the end of the 2nd. though i doubt it.

Would you drop to the early second round if you thought Mays would still be there? or would you geaux with a 4-3 DT like Jared Odrick type?

Cruize · 02-12-2010, 07:57 AM

DT - LB - RB - DE.
Ellis and a bunch of backups isn't going to get it done.
Fujita and Shanle can be replaced easily.
Bell and Bush could be gone. Thomas gets nicked up too much.
Someone to rush the passer is a must.

jeanpierre · 02-13-2010, 10:14 AM

The linebackers in a 4-3 are only as good as the defensive linemen that are up front; I think we underestimate how good the quality of play was this season from Shanle and Fujita...

Strong Safety is the weakest link right now (assuming Sharper stays and can play at the same level); so can Chip Vaughn step up?!?

Defensive Line is still pretty weak and is a direct correlation to the up and down the field stats they are giving up...

Danno · 02-13-2010, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Strong Safety is the weakest link right now (assuming Sharper stays and can play at the same level);

Over DE/DT/WLB/SLB?

I think Harper is a better SS than Shanle or Fujita are OLB's, and better than Grant/McCray at DE, and a better than Ayodele/Clancy at DT.

I'd say SS isn't really a weak link at all.

02-10-2010, 03:52 AM	#41
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Based on some of the early rankings; these are guys that jump out at me... Jerry Hughes, 6-2/257, OLB TCU - more than one scout has said "he wants it more than anyone else..."; that's what I want on my team... Jared Odrick, 6-5/308, DT Penn State - I like an athletically DT in a 4-3 and this guy reminds me of Keith Millard... Taylor Mays, 6-4/225, S USC - Never thought I'd see this guy fall, but that's what another year of film will do; he already has the same coverage skills as Harper, but he actually hits people...you know "remember me"...
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02-10-2010, 12:51 PM	#42
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Did I say we need Defensive Tackle"s"? Love the Role Players but we need a monster in da middle A new starting Defensive End? Grant's Gotta Geaux! A Strong Safety (and possibly) a Free Safety with Sharper a FA? Jenkins, Vaughn enough? An outside linebacker to groom behind Fujita and Shanle... A Left Tackle (not sure Jammal is going to stay with no leverage)... A Center (Goodwin struggled at times)... And a Wide Receiver?!? Again, Sedrick Ellis playing one-on-one is a prowbowl season in the making. I love having another DT. Sharper was hand-picked by G Williams - no way he leaves NO. OLB - ABSOLUTELY. "Depth" is the watchword for the OL. Don't get cute, get a jack of all positions. WR? Hmmmm. Not if the current roster stays intact.

02-10-2010, 12:53 PM	#43
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by CantonLegend there are 2 reasons defensive linemen in 3-4s are bigger......1 of them is because there are less of them so they need to take up more space the 2nd reason is because the defensive linemen need to occupy more blockers so the blitzers can get through now this season, as a team that runs a base 4-3, we blitzed 49% of the time our defense was on the field. that means we blitzed 2nd most in the entire league behind only the jets. not only could he stuff the run all by himself, but he would also be able to occupy 2 blockers at a time leaving will smith 1 on 1 as well as a blitzing LB or CB completely unblocked. that is why i want him so badly. if we played the gary gibbs defense then cody would be a terrible pick because he would have to move, but as a blitzing 4-3 defense, he could occupy 2 gaps and control the line while allowing more options to blitz I agree with your assessment. However, Cody won't be there at 32.

02-12-2010, 12:56 AM	#44
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by saintpaul25 I'm curious why you think we need another WR? It's kinda been a running joke with a few of us here on the board about drafting another WR... Aside from drafting the best player available... The priorities have to be... Defensive End (Grant, his troubles, and his contract has got to geaux; we need a pass rush; Has Will Smith had his one good year?) Defensive Tackle (Sedrick has been okay for a No. 1 pick, but we need more disruption in the middle and someone to free up Vilma) Strong Safety (in case Chip Vaughn doesn't recover or progress; if Harper could consistently bring the wood would be one thing, but his pass coverage skills are schiott) Outside Linebacker (Fujita and Shanle can start to develop their heir) Offensive Line (J Brown has lost leverage and may geaux elsewhere, Goodwin getting it done?) Running Back (Looming Issues in this department include Reggie's 8 mil, Pierre Thomas being satisfied with his contract, Depth)
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02-12-2010, 01:15 AM	#45
WVSaint 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 807	Re: 2010 NFL Draft center can wait til next year, from what i read on a draft board theres two damn good centers projected to come out next year, one from usc, the other i dont remember. another LB would be nice, but im still not sure that arnoux isnt that guy, we never got a chance to see what he could bring. personally, i hope we go D line in the first whether it be a DE or DT it doesnt matter, both are needed. i know someone mentioned kampman earlier and i think that would be a killer pick up. taylor mays projection keeps falling and falling from what ive seen and with a little luck maybe he or chad jones falls to the end of the 2nd. though i doubt it.

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02-12-2010, 07:54 AM	#46
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by WVSaint center can wait til next year, from what i read on a draft board theres two damn good centers projected to come out next year, one from usc, the other i dont remember. another LB would be nice, but im still not sure that arnoux isnt that guy, we never got a chance to see what he could bring. personally, i hope we go D line in the first whether it be a DE or DT it doesnt matter, both are needed. i know someone mentioned kampman earlier and i think that would be a killer pick up. taylor mays projection keeps falling and falling from what ive seen and with a little luck maybe he or chad jones falls to the end of the 2nd. though i doubt it. Would you drop to the early second round if you thought Mays would still be there? or would you geaux with a 4-3 DT like Jared Odrick type?

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02-13-2010, 10:14 AM	#49
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2010 NFL Draft The linebackers in a 4-3 are only as good as the defensive linemen that are up front; I think we underestimate how good the quality of play was this season from Shanle and Fujita... Strong Safety is the weakest link right now (assuming Sharper stays and can play at the same level); so can Chip Vaughn step up?!? Defensive Line is still pretty weak and is a direct correlation to the up and down the field stats they are giving up...

02-13-2010, 03:48 PM	#50
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: 2010 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Strong Safety is the weakest link right now (assuming Sharper stays and can play at the same level); Over DE/DT/WLB/SLB? I think Harper is a better SS than Shanle or Fujita are OLB's, and better than Grant/McCray at DE, and a better than Ayodele/Clancy at DT. I'd say SS isn't really a weak link at all.

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