2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

[lsutigerfan]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wanted to Revisit Trading Down...

As much as I want Ogletree, we should be huddling with Cincy or Miami...

We could trade down and secure very fine talent at a number of positions...

Saints/Bengals Trade Scenario

Saints trade rights to RB Chris Ivory and pick R1(15)

for

Bengals' picks R2 (37), R2 (53), and R6 (190)

2013 Saint's Draft Mock (MensAjeros)

[Updated 2013/04/03]

2.05 (37) LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia*

R2 Forfeit

2.21 (53) OL Barrett Jones, Bama

3.13 (75) LB Jaime Collins, So. Miss*

3.22 (86) OL Jordan Mills, Louisiana Tech

4.12 (109) LB Chase Thomas, Stanford

5.11 (144) DE Bennie Logan, LSU

6.15 (183) DT Kwame Geathers, Georgia

*Ogletree is currently trending at an average of 38th overall (He's a First Rounder To Me); if Ogletree isn't there as he shouldn't be, I'd select 2.05 (37) CB Jamar Taylor, Boise State

If we go from pick 15 to pick 37, we better get back more then that.

[lsutigerfan]

Originally Posted by jcp026

We can trade our first round pick, 15 overall and valued at 1050 points, to the 49ers for their first round pick, 31st overall and valued at 600 points, their second second round pick, 61st overall and valued at 292 points, and their second third round pick, 93rd overall and valued at 128 points. 1050 for 1020.

1(31) DL Jesse Williams (I'd love to have Ogletree but can't imagine him falling this far)
2(61) S Jonathan Cyprien (NFL Network said Jarvis Jones could get pushed out of the first, I'd take him if still available)
3(75) OLB Jamie Collins
3(93) OL Barrett Jones (Good players get pushed down when GMs try to outthink the room)
4(109) OT Jordan Mills
5(144) CB Tharold Simon
6(183) NT Kwame Geathersr

I think there might be five starters in this group and all, in my opinion, would be able to contribute in year one.

Going by your scenario, I'd go.....

1(31) Desmond Trufant
2(61) Alex Okafor
3(75) Brandon Williams
3(93) Barrett Jones
4(109) Zeke Motta
5(144) Cobi Hamilton
6(183) Dustin Hopkins

[jcp026]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

This is why I don't want Tharold Simon or Sam Montgomery...

Uh oh. Amended draft:

1(31) DL Jesse Williams (I'd love to have Ogletree but can't imagine him falling this far)
2(61) S Jonathan Cyprien (NFL Network said Jarvis Jones could get pushed out of the first, I'd take him if still available)
3(75) OLB Jamie Collins
3(93) OL Barrett Jones (Good players get pushed down when GMs try to outthink the room)
4(109) OT Jordan Mills
5(144) NT Kwame Geathers
6(183) WR Brandon Kaufman

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

If we go from pick 15 to pick 37, we better get back more then that.

Two Round two picks, and a round 3 pick for backing up twenty two spots?

And considering our salary cap commitments?

And the pending Graham commitment?

And our needs at Left Tackle and 3-4 Defense commitment?

Oh, and our inability to select an impact first round pick?

[lsutigerfan]

I didnt see a 3rd rounder. What I saw was two 2nd and a 6th which isnt enough. Now if its two 2nd rounders and a 3rd hell yeah I'd do it.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

I didnt see a 3rd rounder. What I saw was two 2nd and a 6th which isnt enough. Now if its two 2nd rounders and a 3rd hell yeah I'd do it.

My mistake LSUTiger in L.A.

Made an error while copy + paste but here is what is should have said...

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Potential Trade Partners with two picks in the second round and Trade Values:

New Orleans - 1.15(15) [1050]

Cincinnati - 2.5(37)[530] (from OAK), 2.21(53) [370], 3.22(86) [160] = [1060]

Miami - 2.10(42) [480], 2.22(54) [360] (from IND), 3.15(47) [195], 3.20(52) [170]* = [1035]

*Miami 3.20 pick Not Included in Total Points

Wanted to Revisit Trading Down...

As much as I want Ogletree, we should be huddling with Cincy or Miami...

We could trade down and secure very fine talent at a number of positions...

Saints/Bengals Trade Scenario

Saints trade rights to RB Chris Ivory and pick 1.15 (15)

for

Bengals' picks 2.5(37), 2.21(53), and 3.15(47)

2013 Saint's Draft Mock (Jeanpierre)

[Updated 2013/04/05]

2.05 (37) LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia*

R2 Forfeit

2.21 (53) OL Barrett Jones, Bama

3.13 (75) LB Jaime Collins, So. Miss*

3.22 (86) OL Jordan Mills, Louisiana Tech

4.12 (109) LB Chase Thomas, Stanford

5.11 (144) DE Bennie Logan, LSU

6.15 (183) DT Kwame Geathers, Georgia

*Ogletree is currently trending at an average of 38th overall (He's a First Rounder To Me); if Ogletree isn't there as he shouldn't be, I'd select 2.05 (37) CB Jamar Taylor, Boise State OR as Hagan pointed out, CB Johnthan Banks, Miss St who would be a press coverage CB, but I suspect may go around pick 30 or in the first, second pick of the second round...

[jcp026]

These extra picks come from the trade with the 49ers I talked about earlier.

1(31) DL Jesse Williams (I'd love to have Ogletree but can't imagine him falling this far)
2(61) S Jonathan Cyprien (NFL Network said Jarvis Jones could get pushed out of the first, I'd take him if still available)
3(75) OLB Jamie Collins
3(93) OL Barrett Jones (Good players get pushed down when GMs try to outthink the room)
4(109) OT Chris Faulk (I had Jordan Mills here, but he probably won't last this long. Voodooido and others have been pushing Faulk hard and I'm sold)
5(144) Kenjon Barner (Darren Sproles, Jr.)
6(183) NT Kwame Geathers

We can shore up the D-Line, help the LB corps, help the secondary, shore up the O-Line, and get a playmaker on offense.

[papz]

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[jeanpierre]

I understand the criticism that he's expecting the ball...

...but the fact that he (1) has excellent measurables, (2) catches the ball, (3) has terrific bulk will make him an excellent draft choice...

[papz]

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