2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by lee909

Stealing JeanPierre`s trade scenario

Saints trade rights to RB Chris Ivory and pick 1.15 (15)

for

Bengals' picks 2.5(37), 2.21(53), and 3.15(47)

2013 Saint's Draft Mock (Jeanpierre)



2.05 (37) OT Barrett Jones/Menelick Watson/DJ Fluker

R2 Forfeit

2.21 (53)DT Margus Hunt/Jonathon Hankins

3.13 (75)CB Leon McFadden/Robert Alford

3.22 (86)OT Chris Faulk/Terron Armstead

4.12 (109)NT Montari Hughes/Kwame Geathers

5.11 (144)ILB Nico Johnson/AJ Kleinn/Bruce taylor

6.15 (183) BPA

You stole nothing my friend...it's a group think thing...

Doubt Fluker will be there in the second round...

Swap the slots you'd take Barrett and Margus and that is very plausible...

Terron Armstead will be gone by mid second round...

Swap the slots of Hughes and Faulk, and that too should be there...

Geathers should still be there in Round 5...

Round 6, WTH? BPA? You better find us a real name soldier!

Originally Posted by papz

Oklahoma T Lane Johnson is visiting the Saints on Tuesday.

The team has a huge void at left tackle, but without a second-round pick it could be tough to move up and secure a top three tackle. A more viable solution could be to trade in the opposite direction and possibly target Terron Armstead or Dallas Thomas.

Source: Sean Jensen on Twitter

If Johnson is there at 15, I could see it - though I think there is better value for investment in the second and third rounds for a Left Tackle as you suggest...

Originally Posted by hagan714

hmm interesting mix. Both are OL tweeners across the board. did you do this on purpose?

Yes, I believe in flexibility - and we will need financial flexibility with that albatross of a contract that Tom Condon struck with Mickey Loomis...

Also, being able to move lineman around could be yet another nightmare for opposing defense to deal with...

Both those young men are athletic and can move, which I prize in an offensive lineman...

[jcp026]

These extra picks come from the trade with the 49ers I talked about earlier.

1(31) DL Jesse Williams (I'd love to have Ogletree but can't imagine him falling this far)
2(61) S Jonathan Cyprien (NFL Network said Jarvis Jones could get pushed out of the first, I'd take him if still available)
3(75) OLB Jamie Collins
3(93) OL Barrett Jones (Good players get pushed down when GMs try to outthink the room)
4(109) OT Chris Faulk (I had Jordan Mills here, but he probably won't last this long. Voodooido and others have been pushing Faulk hard and I'm sold)
5(144) Kenjon Barner (Darren Sproles, Jr.)
6(183) NT Kwame Geathers

We can shore up the D-Line, help the LB corps, help the secondary, shore up the O-Line, and get a playmaker on offense.

[papz]

Sport Science: Kenny Vaccaro - YouTube

Sport Science: Kenny Vaccaro - YouTube

[jeanpierre]

I understand the criticism that he's expecting the ball...

...but the fact that he (1) has excellent measurables, (2) catches the ball, (3) has terrific bulk will make him an excellent draft choice...

[papz]

Sport Science: Dion Jordan - YouTube

Sport Science: Dion Jordan - YouTube

[jeanpierre]

There are five players I really don't trust to draft in the first round...

Dion Jordan and most any Oregon player for that matter...

Jarvis Jones, who I consider a bigger risk than Ogletree...

Johnathan Hankins who's from Ohio State, don't want Ohio State

Barkvicious Mingo just reminds me of Reynaldo Turnbull...

Tennessee Wide Receiver To Be Named - Never Draft a WR in the first round from UT...

[billyt81]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

There are five players I really don't trust to draft in the first round...

Dion Jordan and most any Oregon player for that matter...

Jarvis Jones, who I consider a bigger risk than Ogletree...

Johnathan Hankins who's from Ohio State, don't want Ohio State

Barkevicious Mingo just reminds me of Reynaldo Turnbull...

Tennessee Wide Receiver To Be Named - Never Draft a WR in the first round from UT...

J.P.- Mingo reminds me of Pat Swilling. Both are a little thin, but both are probably faster than 90% of the team. Speed kills, and the Saints defense surely needs some. And be careful discounting all players from any college. I'm pretty sure Eddie George went to Ohio State. Oh-and I recently read one of your blogs where you dissed the Ryans. Buddy Ryan coached the 85 Bears defense. I'm optimistic!

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by billyt81

J.P.- Mingo reminds me of Pat Swilling. Both are a little thin, but both are probably faster than 90% of the team. Speed kills, and the Saints defense surely needs some. And be careful discounting all players from any college. I'm pretty sure Eddie George went to Ohio State. Oh-and I recently read one of your blogs where you dissed the Ryans. Buddy Ryan coached the 85 Bears defense. I'm optimistic!

With the talent they had - I could've coached the '85 Bears Defense...

[FinSaint]

Trade back to gain a 2nd to pick up Barrett Jones and then pick Faulk with the 3rd or 4th (or even 5th) - there you'll have the future center and LT starting from 2014.

Until then you make due with Brown as the LT and DLP as the RFA tendered center before he enters the free agency next offseason, and continue developing Marcel Jones behind Strief to be the starting RT.

Come 2014, the O-line will look like this: LT-Faulk; LG-Grubbs; C-B.Jones; RG-Evans; and RT-M.Jones.

The good thing about Barrett Jones is that he is more than capable of playing any of the interior positions - and subbing for the outer ones as well - and potentially taking over for either Grubbs or Evans if the need arises. That interior is the key behind the success the Saints have had with Brees, so I think B. Jones would be a very nice pick up for that continued success.

[Danno]

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Trade back to gain a 2nd to pick up Barrett Jones and then pick Faulk with the 3rd or 4th (or even 5th) - there you'll have the future center and LT starting from 2014.

Until then you make due with Brown as the LT and DLP as the RFA tendered center before he enters the free agency next offseason, and continue developing Marcel Jones behind Strief to be the starting RT.

Come 2014, the O-line will look like this: LT-Faulk; LG-Grubbs; C-B.Jones; RG-Evans; and RT-M.Jones.

The good thing about Barrett Jones is that he is more than capable of playing any of the interior positions - and subbing for the outer ones as well - and potentially taking over for either Grubbs or Evans if the need arises. That interior is the key behind the success the Saints have had with Brees, so I think B. Jones would be a very nice pick up for that continued success.

And we have a lot of potential on defense that we just don't know enough about yet. It may not hurt to roll with what we have, draft a difference maker if one falls to us, and refocus next year on exactly what we have in Galette, Wilson, Jordan, Hicks, Bunkley, Hawthorne, Robinson etc. Then attack the 2014 draft with a better understanding of our weaknesses and address them accordingly.