2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

[Seer1]

I just voted for the OT because I usually pull for the under dog. The more I'm thinking about our defense, the better I'm feeling about it.

Dammit, missed the safety.

About time for Oak to tell me the glass is not half full again.

[jeanpierre]

My worry is still the pass rush...

I just don't see some of these smallish defensive ends contributing, making the team for that matter...

We get a good solid pass rush, we buy some time to get the safeties replaced...

[papz]

I can't believe how Damontre Moore is falling. If he were wind up a Saint, I'd be very happy. I don't care how he's tested out... the man knows how to play football.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by papz

I can't believe how Damontre Moore is falling. If he were wind up a Saint, I'd be very happy. I don't care how he's tested out... the man knows how to play football.

Papz, he was a baller in college, but when the game gets bigger, faster in the pros - well there's a reason why he's droppin...

[papz]

I disagree. The only reason why he's dropping is because of his physical traits. On film against the top level of collegiate competition, he was outstanding. I'd take him any day all day against a guy who a shoddy tract record against mediocre competition. For guys like Moore, you can take that 40 time and throw it out the window.

Too much is put in stock of these guys personal workouts. Never in their life in football are they going against no one. While it's great for eye candy stats, for me, I'm more concerned and I put more importance on what these guys have done on the football field.

Vernon Gholston says hi to everybody.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by papz

I disagree. The only reason why he's dropping is because of his physical traits. On film against the top level of collegiate competition, he was outstanding. I'd take him any day all day against a guy who a shoddy tract record against mediocre competition. For guys like Moore, you can take that 40 time and throw it out the window.

Too much is put in stock of these guys personal workouts. Never in their life in football are they going against no one. While it's great for eye candy stats, for me, I'm more concerned and I put more importance on what these guys have done on the football field.

Vernon Gholston says hi to everybody.

Totally agree and get your point on the film and game play - but that's also my point, and I'll clarify...

When a player is balling at a very high level, above his athleticism, at the college level in big games- while I appreciate hard play as much as anyone - NFL Scouts, Coaches have to ask "Can this guy do this every down, where talent is deep on every roster?"

Think on the Reggie Bush Lesson - in college, Reggie had big games against big talent, but in the NFL everyone's big and as fast, including the waterboys - and Reggie stubbornly struggled to adjust his game...

You really have to consider the ceilings of these guys when drafting and that's why I'd question their game in the NFL...

[jeanpierre]

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[hagan714]

they all flunked the evening gown and swimsuit portion of the pre draft competition.

yet another reason to use water proof makeup i guess

its all due to over hype players by the media. thats why they are like baseball players batting average of .300 and they are kings. alot of swings and miss.

go with tape

[jeanpierre]

Should we stay at 15, I like...

LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia
DT Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
CB Desmond Trufant, Washington
DT Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State

[hagan714]

oh god i may need to rethink my cooper stand.
I am in agreement with PFT

2013 PFT mock draft, Version 2
So here’s our updated mock draft, based on the current pick schedule without predicting trades. Even though someone will likely trade back into round one to draft a quarterback.

1. Chiefs: OT Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M.

2. Jaguars: DE Dion Jordan, Oregon.

3. Raiders: DT Sharrif Floyd, Florida.

4. Eagles: DT Sheldon Richardson, Missouri.

5. Lions: DE Barkevious Mingo, LSU.

6. Browns: CB Dee Milliner, Alabama.

7. Cardinals: DE Ziggy Ansah, BYU.

8. Bills: OG Chance Warmack, Alabama.

9. Jets: WR Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee.

10. Titans: CB Desmond Trufant, Washington.

11. Chargers: WR Keenan Allen, California.

12. Dolphins: OT Eric Fisher, Central Michigan.

13. Buccaneers: WR Tavon Austin, West Virginia.

14. Panthers: DT Star Lotulelei, Utah.

15. Saints: OG Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina.

16. Rams: S Kenny Vaccaro, Texas.

17. Steelers: LB/DE Damontre Moore, Texas A&M.

18. Cowboys: CB Xavier Rhodes, Florida State.
2013 PFT mock draft, Version 2 | ProFootballTalk

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