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2013 NFL Draft - Saints Big Board

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Potential Trade Partners with two picks in the second round and Trade Values: New Orleans - 1.15(15) [1050] Cincinnati - 2.5(37)[530] (from OAK), 2.21(53) [370], 3.22(86) [160] = [1060] Miami - 2.10(42) [480], 2.22(54) [360] (from IND), 3.15(47) [195], 3.20(52) ...

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Old 04-09-2013, 03:42 PM   #801
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Potential Trade Partners with two picks in the second round and Trade Values:

New Orleans - 1.15(15) [1050]

Cincinnati - 2.5(37)[530] (from OAK), 2.21(53) [370], 3.22(86) [160] = [1060]

Miami - 2.10(42) [480], 2.22(54) [360] (from IND), 3.15(47) [195], 3.20(52) [170]* = [1035]

*Miami 3.20 pick Not Included in Total Points

Trading Down, Miami Scenario...

As much as I want Ogletree, we should be huddling with Cincy or Miami...

We could trade down and secure very fine talent at a number of positions...

Saints/Bengals Trade Scenario

Saints trade rights to RB Chris Ivory and pick 1.15 (15)

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Dolphins' picks 2.10 (42), 2.22 (54 from IND), 3.15 (77)

2013 Saint's Draft Mock (Jeanpierre)

[Updated 2013/04/09]

2.10 (42) CB David Amerson, NC State

R2 Forfeit

2.22 (54 from IND) LB Jaime Collins, So. Miss*

3.13 (75) OL Barrett Jones, Bama

3.15 (77) OT David Quessenberry, San Jose State

4.12 (109) LB Chase Thomas, Stanford

5.11 (144) DE Joe Kruger, Utah

6.15 (183) DT Kwame Geathers, Georgia

*Ogletree is currently trending at an average of 38th overall (He's a First Rounder To Me); if Ogletree isn't there as he shouldn't be, I'd select 2.10 (42) CB CB David Amerson, NC State who would be a press coverage CB, and his 6'2" 215# frame meets size specifications for an ideal cornerback (oh no he didn't)...
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:50 PM   #802
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Thats a nice draft.
Should have the choice of at least two of Queenberry,Armstead or Faulk at that early 3rd rounder.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:58 PM   #803
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Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
Stealing JeanPierre`s trade scenario

Saints trade rights to RB Chris Ivory and pick 1.15 (15)

for

Bengals' picks 2.5(37), 2.21(53), and 3.15(47)

2013 Saint's Draft Mock (Jeanpierre)



2.05 (37) OT Barrett Jones/Menelick Watson/DJ Fluker

R2 Forfeit

2.21 (53)DT Margus Hunt/Jonathon Hankins

3.13 (75)CB Leon McFadden/Robert Alford

3.22 (86)OT Chris Faulk/Terron Armstead

4.12 (109)NT Montari Hughes/Kwame Geathers

5.11 (144)ILB Nico Johnson/AJ Kleinn/Bruce taylor

6.15 (183) BPA

That would be epic!

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Old 04-09-2013, 08:26 PM   #804
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post


3.13 (75) OL Barrett Jones, Bama

3.15 (77) OT David Quessenberry, San Jose State

hmm interesting mix. Both are OL tweeners across the board. did you do this on purpose?
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Old 04-09-2013, 11:39 PM   #805
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Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
Stealing JeanPierre`s trade scenario

Saints trade rights to RB Chris Ivory and pick 1.15 (15)

for

Bengals' picks 2.5(37), 2.21(53), and 3.15(47)

2013 Saint's Draft Mock (Jeanpierre)



2.05 (37) OT Barrett Jones/Menelick Watson/DJ Fluker

R2 Forfeit

2.21 (53)DT Margus Hunt/Jonathon Hankins

3.13 (75)CB Leon McFadden/Robert Alford

3.22 (86)OT Chris Faulk/Terron Armstead

4.12 (109)NT Montari Hughes/Kwame Geathers

5.11 (144)ILB Nico Johnson/AJ Kleinn/Bruce taylor

6.15 (183) BPA
You stole nothing my friend...it's a group think thing...

Doubt Fluker will be there in the second round...

Swap the slots you'd take Barrett and Margus and that is very plausible...

Terron Armstead will be gone by mid second round...

Swap the slots of Hughes and Faulk, and that too should be there...

Geathers should still be there in Round 5...

Round 6, WTH? BPA? You better find us a real name soldier!

Originally Posted by papz View Post
Oklahoma T Lane Johnson is visiting the Saints on Tuesday.

The team has a huge void at left tackle, but without a second-round pick it could be tough to move up and secure a top three tackle. A more viable solution could be to trade in the opposite direction and possibly target Terron Armstead or Dallas Thomas.

Source: Sean Jensen on Twitter
If Johnson is there at 15, I could see it - though I think there is better value for investment in the second and third rounds for a Left Tackle as you suggest...

Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
hmm interesting mix. Both are OL tweeners across the board. did you do this on purpose?
Yes, I believe in flexibility - and we will need financial flexibility with that albatross of a contract that Tom Condon struck with Mickey Loomis...

Also, being able to move lineman around could be yet another nightmare for opposing defense to deal with...

Both those young men are athletic and can move, which I prize in an offensive lineman...
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OL Barrett Jones looks to be starting the season out on PUP list. so he should drop a bit.


2.21 (53)DT Margus Hunt/Jonathon Hankins still not sold on either one.
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2.21 Brandon Williams

Geathers is going to be a bust. Use the fifth round pick for a quarterback.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:23 AM   #808
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OL Barrett Jones looks to be starting the season out on PUP list. so he should drop a bit.

That's really good news, since the Saints wouldn't need him to step in immediately and could, therefore, easily invest a lower round pick to get Jones for the future (aka 2014 to replace DLP).

Now, it would seem maybe wasteful to pick a player who's likely to land on the PUP when the Saints have limited number of picks and a number of positions to fill. But Barrett Jones is another one of those players along with Faulk who would be a higher pick in any other year with less O-line talent, and if he were in a better health condition. To me, hitting the sweet-spot between investing in the future while also addressing current needs is the way a franchise can continue to "be in the hunt" year after year.


Hunt, Amerson, and Collins would all be good 2nd round picks for the Saints, IMO.

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Old 04-11-2013, 07:29 AM   #809
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2013 Saint's Draft Mock (JeanPierre)

[Updated 2013/04/11]

R1(15) LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia

R2 Forfeit

R3(75) LB Chase Thomas, Stanford

R4(109) DE Joe Kruger, Utah

R5(144) NT T.J. Barnes, Georgia Tech

R6(183) SS Cody Davis, Texas Tech



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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
2013 Saint's Draft Mock (JeanPierre)

[Updated 2013/04/11]

R1(15) LB Alec Ogletree, Georgia

R2 Forfeit

R3(75) LB Chase Thomas, Stanford

R4(109) DE Joe Kruger, Utah

R5(144) NT T.J. Barnes, Georgia Tech

R6(183) SS Cody Davis, Texas Tech


Is that you thinking that we are done at LT now with Smith?
Try to make do with a mixture of Jones,Brown and Smith?
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