jnormand

I really don't know what to say. I've been one who has been defending him, but I was really disappointed yesterday. I kept thinking....well Ingram is in, oh they are putting 8 or 9 in the box. Then he gets 2 yards.

I noticed that too that the long TD pass to Jimmy was after Drew checked out of an Ingram run the defense was stacking up against.

IDK anymore. It just seems like he's being used as a short yardage back and isn't getting it done. He just not doing well.

halloween 65

Ingram needs to be pushed that's all, same thing as last year. We need a headbanger to push him. Robinson might do it , C. Benson would take his job.

AllSaints

Give all the touches you give Ingram to Pierre Thomas !

SaintsBro

I agreed with the original concept of Mark Ingram and why he's here -- that it's the end of 2010 and we have NO un-injured running backs left, so you get a stout bruiser back from the SEC, that you know plays against good defenses week in and week out as a workhorse back, you bring him in to complement our other backs, extend the lifespan on Brees' arm and eventually replace PT. I get THAT, it all makes perfect sense, on paper.

But it just isn't working.

Trading up to get him, which a lot of people didn't like, but again that is sort of a Payton thing that he does -- be aggressive, take your weakest weakness and not just fix it adequately, but turn it into your biggest strength. (Drafting Morstead is in that category, as is the original pickup of Drew as well.).

But again,it's NOT working.

It gets into this other psychological thing that Sean Payton does -- he senses a problem, and then he finds somebody to be THE GUY to fix it. Hartley is an example -- we had TURRIBLE luck with kickers when Payton first got here. So he went out and found Hartley, our loveable emo headcase kicker, and now Payton sticks with him even when people are calling for his head.

So whether Payton can admit that "HIS GUY" who was supposed to solve the problem, isn't working out....whether he still believes in Ingram or not....well that's another question entirely.

TheOak

For those members that havent followed the Ingram threads the past 3 seasons. We have had at least 5 Ingram threads per season, the first season it was a 75/25 split favoring Ingram proponents. The second season it was 50/50 split. Now in the second game of the third season Ingram has about 15% in favor.

I HOPE and WANT Ingram to do very well for the Saints, however he is not, and I will hammer him until he does. I will personally start a new "Ingram did well" thread each and every time he has a good game, and congratulate him. I am being as fair as I possibly can to the situation.

papz

You know Oak, that point is brought up all the time when we're discussing Ingram but somehow people continue to ignore it.

TheOak

Bulls eye Fantasy Comments from Roto


Mark Ingram rushed eight times for 20 yards in Sunday's Week 2 win over the Bucs.

Advice: The Saints' insistence on trying to fit a square peg into a round hole is hurting them. Ingram was once again held under 3.0 YPC and this time got stuffed twice at the goal-line -- including once on a key 4th-and-goal spot. Ingram is not a receiver, so opponents know what is coming when he's in the game. He's also shown no power or elusiveness through three NFL seasons. Pierre Thomas should be getting Ingram's carries. Owners in normal-sized leagues can move on.
(Rotoworld.com)
Mark Ingram - New Orleans Saints - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

pinch

This.

Forcing the ball to Ingram should have cost us this game. If we continue to give the worst rusher the biggest percentage of carries we're going to lose games we should win.

hagan714

we have no options he is here for 2014 so start using correctly and stop forcing the issue SP.

TheOak

In that case, he is a change of pace back and gives PT a break. However.. and I emphasize a huge HOWEVER, if we continue to run Ingram, leaving Cadet and K. Robinson on the bench, if PT gets injured you now have Ingram on the field and no RBs with any NFL snaps other than Sproles to take snaps. It is time to see what Cadet and K. Robinson can do in the real world, no use keeping both on a roster to ride the bench.

I do not look at Sproles as a pure RB as I do the other 4.