Khiry Robinson runs nasty

Budsdrinker · 09-25-2013, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

One question:

Do you think Ingram would have had the same success with those same carries?

Hard to say, but in the first half no back had success but they did in the second half is all I'm saying. Granted KRob didn't have a shot in the first half.
My opinion is just not to get too excited about some good runs at the end of the game and declare KRob the starter when we don't know if he can handle all the responsibilities that comes with it. He is young and may not know all of the playbook with the way Brees calls audibles and changes protections. It's a big jump from West Texas A&M to NFL play calling.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-25-2013, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Should we continue to assume that Mark Ingram is a better back than PT and Sproles and should continue to start when he is consistently out performed by EVERY running back on our roster?

Who is talking about Ingram? Where did I mention Ingram in any of my posts? Why do people keep replying to me with anything to say about Ingram?

Jack Vegas · 09-25-2013, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

So can we assume Robinson is that much better a RB than both PT and Sproles and should be starting immediately?

Don't think anybody is saying that. BUT, I have a very hard time believing Ingram would come up with those same kind of gains in that same situation.

That's not an Ingram bash, I'm only talking about him in terms of the depth chart. For that matter I am not as enamored with Sproles in terms of conventional running back carries, I don't think he's all that hot between the tackles.

Considering how bad our run game has been, I think it's reasonable to give the guy a shot.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-25-2013, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Don't think anybody is saying that. BUT, I have a very hard time believing Ingram...

... and again with Ingram. Why do people keep replying to me with any mention of Ingram, is a mystery to me.

Jack Vegas · 09-26-2013, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

... and again with Ingram. Why do people keep replying to me with any mention of Ingram, is a mystery to me.

Because Ingram is the guy he is presumbly most in competition with for playing time as the between-the-tackles runner in this offense, of course. Because he is the guy who got in the game when Ingram was hurt. Because Ingram is averaging less than 2 yards per carry and it is reasonable that the coaches might just be looking elsewhere for someone to fill that role.

I would think the reasons would be fairly obvious at this point. Don't take it personal, it's just the reality of the situation.

Tobias-Reiper · 09-26-2013, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Because Ingram is the guy he is presumbly most in competition with for playing time as the between-the-tackles runner in this offense, of course. Because he is the guy who got in the game when Ingram was hurt. Because Ingram is averaging less than 2 yards per carry and it is reasonable that the coaches might just be looking elsewhere for someone to fill that role.

I would think the reasons would be fairly obvious at this point. Don't take it personal, it's just the reality of the situation.

What the heck are you talking about? Seriously... I am not taking anything personal... I posted about Robinson, and how I did not think what Robinson did was that impressive given the circumstances. Why do you insist on bringing up Ingram?

My guess is, in your mind, I am somehow putting Robinson down because I favor Ingram, and that is why I stated I wasn't impressed with what Robinson did? Is that it?

jnormand · 09-26-2013, 01:17 AM

Ok! Everybody just calm down!!! Stop yell-posting!!!

Jack Vegas · 09-26-2013, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

My guess is, in your mind, I am somehow putting Robinson down because I favor Ingram, and that is why I stated I wasn't impressed with what Robinson did? Is that it?

Actually, no. I was just talking about the topic at hand.

Am I supposed to pay close attention to who I am responding to and take care not to mention certain players that may rub them the wrong way? Sorry, dude, but I have neither the time or inclination. I don't want to get pissy with you but that's just what it is.

To wit, it is practically impossible to talk about whether or not Khiry Robinson deserves playing time without also talking about his immediate competition on the depth chart. This is not a terribly difficult concept to grasp.

alleycat_126 · 09-26-2013, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by ikecomp

PS. Did anyone else notice how bad ben watson looked in pass protection?

Yes. Shawn Payton......

TheOak · 09-26-2013, 08:24 AM

12 pages and 119 replies later and the Thread title still stands.

Khiry Robinson runs nasty.

FWIW, I did not see too many moments when he ran that he looked like he was checking anyone on our offensive lines prostate.

This is his 21 yard run, what I watched for was to see if the Cardinals defense looked gassed or gave up... E.G. Our offensive line reset the line of scrimmage within 2s of the snap (pushed it forward 2 yards). We didnt, the Cards defense is all over our backfield on this play, same as when everyone else runs. No more excuses about the line preforming better or the Cards giving up, their line beat us on this play and Khiry Robinson beat their defense. The line of scrimmage is the 45 and only DLP stood his man up, the rest of our offensive line was 3 yards behind the line of scrimmage as usual.

RB Robinson, 21-yd, run - NFL Videos

09-25-2013, 04:59 PM	#111
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by blackangold One question: Do you think Ingram would have had the same success with those same carries? Hard to say, but in the first half no back had success but they did in the second half is all I'm saying. Granted KRob didn't have a shot in the first half. My opinion is just not to get too excited about some good runs at the end of the game and declare KRob the starter when we don't know if he can handle all the responsibilities that comes with it. He is young and may not know all of the playbook with the way Brees calls audibles and changes protections. It's a big jump from West Texas A&M to NFL play calling. blackangold likes this.

09-25-2013, 05:05 PM	#112
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by blackangold Should we continue to assume that Mark Ingram is a better back than PT and Sproles and should continue to start when he is consistently out performed by EVERY running back on our roster? Who is talking about Ingram? Where did I mention Ingram in any of my posts? Why do people keep replying to me with anything to say about Ingram?

09-25-2013, 05:14 PM	#113
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper So can we assume Robinson is that much better a RB than both PT and Sproles and should be starting immediately? Don't think anybody is saying that. BUT, I have a very hard time believing Ingram would come up with those same kind of gains in that same situation. That's not an Ingram bash, I'm only talking about him in terms of the depth chart. For that matter I am not as enamored with Sproles in terms of conventional running back carries, I don't think he's all that hot between the tackles. Considering how bad our run game has been, I think it's reasonable to give the guy a shot.
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09-25-2013, 07:18 PM	#114
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Don't think anybody is saying that. BUT, I have a very hard time believing Ingram... ... and again with Ingram. Why do people keep replying to me with any mention of Ingram, is a mystery to me. Danno likes this.

09-26-2013, 12:15 AM	#115
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper ... and again with Ingram. Why do people keep replying to me with any mention of Ingram, is a mystery to me. Because Ingram is the guy he is presumbly most in competition with for playing time as the between-the-tackles runner in this offense, of course. Because he is the guy who got in the game when Ingram was hurt. Because Ingram is averaging less than 2 yards per carry and it is reasonable that the coaches might just be looking elsewhere for someone to fill that role. I would think the reasons would be fairly obvious at this point. Don't take it personal, it's just the reality of the situation.
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09-26-2013, 01:03 AM	#116
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Because Ingram is the guy he is presumbly most in competition with for playing time as the between-the-tackles runner in this offense, of course. Because he is the guy who got in the game when Ingram was hurt. Because Ingram is averaging less than 2 yards per carry and it is reasonable that the coaches might just be looking elsewhere for someone to fill that role. I would think the reasons would be fairly obvious at this point. Don't take it personal, it's just the reality of the situation. What the heck are you talking about? Seriously... I am not taking anything personal... I posted about Robinson, and how I did not think what Robinson did was that impressive given the circumstances. Why do you insist on bringing up Ingram? My guess is, in your mind, I am somehow putting Robinson down because I favor Ingram, and that is why I stated I wasn't impressed with what Robinson did? Is that it? Danno likes this.

09-26-2013, 01:17 AM	#117
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,661	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Ok! Everybody just calm down!!! Stop yell-posting!!!

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper My guess is, in your mind, I am somehow putting Robinson down because I favor Ingram, and that is why I stated I wasn't impressed with what Robinson did? Is that it? Actually, no. I was just talking about the topic at hand. Am I supposed to pay close attention to who I am responding to and take care not to mention certain players that may rub them the wrong way? Sorry, dude, but I have neither the time or inclination. I don't want to get pissy with you but that's just what it is. To wit, it is practically impossible to talk about whether or not Khiry Robinson deserves playing time without also talking about his immediate competition on the depth chart. This is not a terribly difficult concept to grasp.
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09-26-2013, 08:22 AM	#119
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by ikecomp PS. Did anyone else notice how bad ben watson looked in pass protection? Yes. Shawn Payton......

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