Khiry Robinson runs nasty

Tobias-Reiper · 09-23-2013, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Either way you ended the drive, I would personally think the 3 run stuffs that were not near the GL more important as in my mind they were not within field goal range.

The 3 run stuffs near the GL did keep TDs off the board but the box was a lot smaller and the play was anticipated...

Is that where you were going?

You either are trolling me, or missed the "victory formation" part

Utah_Saint · 09-23-2013, 01:39 PM

A running back also needs to understand blitz pick ups. This has been the downfall of many a running back (see LaGarrette Blount)

If Payton feels that Robinson doesn't know who to pick up and when, then he shouldn't be in the game. The reward of having a running back that can average 4 to 5 yards a carry would be nothing if Drew were to be injured by a linebacker going untouched.

That could also explain whey Robinson didn't come in until we stopped passing.

ScottF · 09-23-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Their D was gassed because of our offense, our scoring, our defense making their defense stay on the field 11 minutes more than ours.

They were gassed because of the Saints and not outside the game issues. That is big.

Saints ToP 35:31
Cards ToP 25:29

True- plus they had given up before then.
It was ironic that we could not run for sh** all day, but when Ariz knew we were going to run we actually were successful

Glad we rested some starters late- Graham, Greer, Grubbs and a few others were out after the last score

UK_WhoDat · 09-23-2013, 03:04 PM

I like this Robinson guy oevr Ingram because he gained decent yardage more than once in the game. The other runs (of decent yardage) was like an extra shot of Southern Comfort on the house

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

You either are trolling me, or missed the "victory formation" part

Neither... Loaded on sinus medicine today... Sorry if I misunderstood.

Cruize · 09-23-2013, 03:42 PM

I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with.

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 03:46 PM

Seems the problem is giving the ball to an UDFA... albeit that is exactly how the legend of PT was born.

Utah_Saint · 09-23-2013, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Loaded on sinus medicine today... Sorry if I misunderstood.

Jamarcus, is that you?

SaintsBro · 09-23-2013, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with.

And have him fumble on the 4, and have Arizona tie the game? No thanks. Sorry, that would be an absolutely terrible coaching move, to give the ball to an undrafted rookie who has NEVER PLAYED A SNAP IN A REAL FOOTBALL GAME BEFORE, in that situation, on your own 4 yard line like that.They would be ripping his head off, trying to stand him up and strip the ball. Putting him in at the end of the game was LOW RISK HIGH REWARD, and I'm sorry but that is good coaching. Putting Khiry in on the 4 yard line is HIGH RISK LOW REWARD, the exact opposite of what kind of situations you want to put him in.

ScottF · 09-23-2013, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with.

I didn't understand the timeouts, offensively or on D. From our 9, we call timeout. Ariz is driving, and we are stopping the clock.
Ohh, and why did we keep the KO in play after the second TD? Ariz had 1 TO left.

09-23-2013, 01:33 PM	#51
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by TheOak Either way you ended the drive, I would personally think the 3 run stuffs that were not near the GL more important as in my mind they were not within field goal range. The 3 run stuffs near the GL did keep TDs off the board but the box was a lot smaller and the play was anticipated... Is that where you were going? You either are trolling me, or missed the "victory formation" part

09-23-2013, 01:39 PM	#52
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty A running back also needs to understand blitz pick ups. This has been the downfall of many a running back (see LaGarrette Blount) If Payton feels that Robinson doesn't know who to pick up and when, then he shouldn't be in the game. The reward of having a running back that can average 4 to 5 yards a carry would be nothing if Drew were to be injured by a linebacker going untouched. That could also explain whey Robinson didn't come in until we stopped passing. SaintsBro likes this.

09-23-2013, 02:08 PM	#53
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by TheOak Their D was gassed because of our offense, our scoring, our defense making their defense stay on the field 11 minutes more than ours. They were gassed because of the Saints and not outside the game issues. That is big. Saints ToP 35:31 Cards ToP 25:29 True- plus they had given up before then. It was ironic that we could not run for sh** all day, but when Ariz knew we were going to run we actually were successful Glad we rested some starters late- Graham, Greer, Grubbs and a few others were out after the last score

09-23-2013, 03:04 PM	#54
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,983	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty I like this Robinson guy oevr Ingram because he gained decent yardage more than once in the game. The other runs (of decent yardage) was like an extra shot of Southern Comfort on the house

09-23-2013, 03:11 PM	#55
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper You either are trolling me, or missed the "victory formation" part Neither... Loaded on sinus medicine today... Sorry if I misunderstood.

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09-23-2013, 03:42 PM	#56
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with.
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09-23-2013, 03:46 PM	#57
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Seems the problem is giving the ball to an UDFA... albeit that is exactly how the legend of PT was born.

09-23-2013, 04:04 PM	#58
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by TheOak Loaded on sinus medicine today... Sorry if I misunderstood. Jamarcus, is that you? TheOak likes this.

09-23-2013, 04:06 PM	#59
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Cruize I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with. And have him fumble on the 4, and have Arizona tie the game? No thanks. Sorry, that would be an absolutely terrible coaching move, to give the ball to an undrafted rookie who has NEVER PLAYED A SNAP IN A REAL FOOTBALL GAME BEFORE, in that situation, on your own 4 yard line like that.They would be ripping his head off, trying to stand him up and strip the ball. Putting him in at the end of the game was LOW RISK HIGH REWARD, and I'm sorry but that is good coaching. Putting Khiry in on the 4 yard line is HIGH RISK LOW REWARD, the exact opposite of what kind of situations you want to put him in.

09-23-2013, 04:16 PM	#60
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Cruize I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with. I didn't understand the timeouts, offensively or on D. From our 9, we call timeout. Ariz is driving, and we are stopping the clock. Ohh, and why did we keep the KO in play after the second TD? Ariz had 1 TO left.

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