Khiry Robinson runs nasty

arsaint · 09-23-2013, 12:14 PM

And Ingram hasn't fumbled???

I say give KRob a chance. If he's a fumbler we need to know so we can free up a roster spot.

This isn't last year's Saints - one turnover does not equate to the D soiling itself and giving up 7 automatically.

Saintaintso · 09-23-2013, 12:23 PM

You can't run with a hurt toe ... Let K Rob start and see if the excitement changes anything in the running game ( Like Ivory Did ) ... When Ingram Is Healthy again Ingram will Be Fresh and Sprinkle Him in on the Runs until we figure it out. Ingram gets motivated by seeing other guys shine in his spot.

Creates Competition , Let's Ingram Heal and Figure out how to fit in with the Scheme , Motivates the team , Gives reason for excitement ... Win for all Parties involved

Mardigras9 · 09-23-2013, 12:26 PM

Like to see him early in the rotation with PT, then make a decision.

TheOak · 09-23-2013, 12:27 PM

Someone has to sit to allow a RB to play.. I am not going to give up a extra defensive player, a lineman, a WR so Ingram can find his motivation.

Not willing to give those players up as thin as we are in some spots.

Utah_Saint · 09-23-2013, 12:39 PM

A running back also needs to understand blitz pick ups. This has been the downfall of many a running back (see LaGarrette Blount)

If Payton feels that Robinson doesn't know who to pick up and when, then he shouldn't be in the game. The reward of having a running back that can average 4 to 5 yards a carry would be nothing if Drew were to be injured by a linebacker going untouched.

That could also explain whey Robinson didn't come in until we stopped passing.

UK_WhoDat · 09-23-2013, 02:04 PM

I like this Robinson guy oevr Ingram because he gained decent yardage more than once in the game. The other runs (of decent yardage) was like an extra shot of Southern Comfort on the house

Cruize · 09-23-2013, 02:42 PM

I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with.

SaintsBro · 09-23-2013, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with.

And have him fumble on the 4, and have Arizona tie the game? No thanks. Sorry, that would be an absolutely terrible coaching move, to give the ball to an undrafted rookie who has NEVER PLAYED A SNAP IN A REAL FOOTBALL GAME BEFORE, in that situation, on your own 4 yard line like that.They would be ripping his head off, trying to stand him up and strip the ball. Putting him in at the end of the game was LOW RISK HIGH REWARD, and I'm sorry but that is good coaching. Putting Khiry in on the 4 yard line is HIGH RISK LOW REWARD, the exact opposite of what kind of situations you want to put him in.

halloween 65 · 09-23-2013, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

And have him fumble on the 4, and have Arizona tie the game? No thanks. Sorry, that would be an absolutely terrible coaching move, to give the ball to an undrafted rookie who has NEVER PLAYED A SNAP IN A REAL FOOTBALL GAME BEFORE, in that situation, on your own 4 yard line like that.They would be ripping his head off, trying to stand him up and strip the ball. Putting him in at the end of the game was LOW RISK HIGH REWARD, and I'm sorry but that is good coaching. Putting Khiry in on the 4 yard line is HIGH RISK LOW REWARD, the exact opposite of what kind of situations you want to put him in.

They are all rookies at one time, drafted or not and the sooner you put it in their hands to see them in action the better. If it was 4th and inches with the game on the line I had rather put it in someones hands before pass but that's just me I like smash mouth football. Either way you make it or you don't, rookie or vet. I say play the guy now!!

ScottF · 09-23-2013, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with.

I didn't understand the timeouts, offensively or on D. From our 9, we call timeout. Ariz is driving, and we are stopping the clock.
Ohh, and why did we keep the KO in play after the second TD? Ariz had 1 TO left.

09-23-2013, 12:14 PM	#1
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,732	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty And Ingram hasn't fumbled??? I say give KRob a chance. If he's a fumbler we need to know so we can free up a roster spot. This isn't last year's Saints - one turnover does not equate to the D soiling itself and giving up 7 automatically.

09-23-2013, 12:23 PM	#2
Saintaintso 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 937	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty You can't run with a hurt toe ... Let K Rob start and see if the excitement changes anything in the running game ( Like Ivory Did ) ... When Ingram Is Healthy again Ingram will Be Fresh and Sprinkle Him in on the Runs until we figure it out. Ingram gets motivated by seeing other guys shine in his spot. Creates Competition , Let's Ingram Heal and Figure out how to fit in with the Scheme , Motivates the team , Gives reason for excitement ... Win for all Parties involved
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09-23-2013, 12:26 PM	#3
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Like to see him early in the rotation with PT, then make a decision.

09-23-2013, 12:27 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Someone has to sit to allow a RB to play.. I am not going to give up a extra defensive player, a lineman, a WR so Ingram can find his motivation. Not willing to give those players up as thin as we are in some spots.

09-23-2013, 12:39 PM	#5
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty A running back also needs to understand blitz pick ups. This has been the downfall of many a running back (see LaGarrette Blount) If Payton feels that Robinson doesn't know who to pick up and when, then he shouldn't be in the game. The reward of having a running back that can average 4 to 5 yards a carry would be nothing if Drew were to be injured by a linebacker going untouched. That could also explain whey Robinson didn't come in until we stopped passing. SaintsBro likes this.

09-23-2013, 02:04 PM	#6
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,000	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty I like this Robinson guy oevr Ingram because he gained decent yardage more than once in the game. The other runs (of decent yardage) was like an extra shot of Southern Comfort on the house

09-23-2013, 02:42 PM	#7
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with.
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09-23-2013, 03:06 PM	#8
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Cruize I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with. And have him fumble on the 4, and have Arizona tie the game? No thanks. Sorry, that would be an absolutely terrible coaching move, to give the ball to an undrafted rookie who has NEVER PLAYED A SNAP IN A REAL FOOTBALL GAME BEFORE, in that situation, on your own 4 yard line like that.They would be ripping his head off, trying to stand him up and strip the ball. Putting him in at the end of the game was LOW RISK HIGH REWARD, and I'm sorry but that is good coaching. Putting Khiry in on the 4 yard line is HIGH RISK LOW REWARD, the exact opposite of what kind of situations you want to put him in.

09-23-2013, 04:59 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by SaintsBro And have him fumble on the 4, and have Arizona tie the game? No thanks. Sorry, that would be an absolutely terrible coaching move, to give the ball to an undrafted rookie who has NEVER PLAYED A SNAP IN A REAL FOOTBALL GAME BEFORE, in that situation, on your own 4 yard line like that.They would be ripping his head off, trying to stand him up and strip the ball. Putting him in at the end of the game was LOW RISK HIGH REWARD, and I'm sorry but that is good coaching. Putting Khiry in on the 4 yard line is HIGH RISK LOW REWARD, the exact opposite of what kind of situations you want to put him in. They are all rookies at one time, drafted or not and the sooner you put it in their hands to see them in action the better. If it was 4th and inches with the game on the line I had rather put it in someones hands before pass but that's just me I like smash mouth football. Either way you make it or you don't, rookie or vet. I say play the guy now!!

09-23-2013, 03:16 PM	#10
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Cruize I wish they would have gave Robinson the ball at the end of the first half. Up by 7, at you're own 4 yard line, the Cardinals only having 1 timeout and with 1:30 on the clock, it would have made sense all around. Having Brees throw out of the endzone in that situation was a formula for disaster. Run the ball, use up the clock, go to the half with a 7 point lead, and come out getting the ball to open the 2nd half. Bad coaching that Payton got away with. I didn't understand the timeouts, offensively or on D. From our 9, we call timeout. Ariz is driving, and we are stopping the clock. Ohh, and why did we keep the KO in play after the second TD? Ariz had 1 TO left.

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