Khiry Robinson runs nasty

Jack Vegas · 09-24-2013, 05:01 PM

The thread I mentioned earlier: Saints use of Mark Ingram borders on criminal - Page 3 - The Shark Pool (NFL Talk) - Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

Highlights:

Not a pretty picture... top 10 carries/snaps for RB with more than 18 snaps + Ingram @ 18
Snps Carries PCT YPC
mathews 20 13 0.650 2.5
cj2k 43 25 0.581 2.8
williams 31 17 0.548 5.1
f jax 26 13 0.500 5.2
ingram 18 9 0.500 1.2
mccoy 65 31 0.477 5.9
spiller 37 17 0.459 2.4
mendenhall 35 16 0.457 3.8
tate 20 9 0.450 6.1
charles 36 16 0.444 4.8

For his career, Ivory is averaging an astonishing 5.1 yards per carry (compared to the 3.9 of Ingram) despite the fact that when he's in the game it's a telltale sign the Saints are running (74.9 percent of his snaps were on running plays), letting the offense key in on him.

I am not lamenting that we traded away Ivory, but when you see he still managed over 5.1 yards a carry even though his carry-to-snap ratio is a full 15% higher than Ingram (74 vs. 59), the "Ingram always faces 8 man fronts" argument becomes pretty much indefensible.

dueceloose · 09-24-2013, 05:08 PM

Any videos of Khiry running vs Cards

Jack Vegas · 09-24-2013, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Any videos of Khiry running vs Cards

Do you know how to do torrents?

Every week for the last 4-5 years I download games from tenyardtorrents.com to watch/study. They have some kinda tricky rules about how much you are supposed to upload vs. download but it's absolutely the best way to get game footage.

Utah_Saint · 09-24-2013, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Any videos of Khiry running vs Cards

Here's a beauty.

RB Robinson, 21-yd, run - NFL Videos

Boutte · 09-24-2013, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Any videos of Khiry running vs Cards

dueceloose · 09-24-2013, 11:15 PM

Watches the gif over and over.

dueceloose · 09-24-2013, 11:16 PM

He reminds me a lot of PT the way he puts his hand down and cuts.

Budsdrinker · 09-25-2013, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

The thread I mentioned earlier: Saints use of Mark Ingram borders on criminal - Page 3 - The Shark Pool (NFL Talk) - Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

Highlights:

Not a pretty picture... top 10 carries/snaps for RB with more than 18 snaps + Ingram @ 18
Snps Carries PCT YPC
mathews 20 13 0.650 2.5
cj2k 43 25 0.581 2.8
williams 31 17 0.548 5.1
f jax 26 13 0.500 5.2
ingram 18 9 0.500 1.2
mccoy 65 31 0.477 5.9
spiller 37 17 0.459 2.4
mendenhall 35 16 0.457 3.8
tate 20 9 0.450 6.1
charles 36 16 0.444 4.8

For his career, Ivory is averaging an astonishing 5.1 yards per carry (compared to the 3.9 of Ingram) despite the fact that when he's in the game it's a telltale sign the Saints are running (74.9 percent of his snaps were on running plays), letting the offense key in on him.

I am not lamenting that we traded away Ivory, but when you see he still managed over 5.1 yards a carry even though his carry-to-snap ratio is a full 15% higher than Ingram (74 vs. 59), the "Ingram always faces 8 man fronts" argument becomes pretty much indefensible.

Actually Ivory is down to 4.9 now since he is only averaging 2.8 this year and oh by the way out with a hamstring injury.

The Dude · 09-25-2013, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Actually Ivory is down to 4.9 now since he is only averaging 2.8 this year and oh by the way out with a hamstring injury.

And that imo is the main reason why we traded him. I had absolutely no problem at all with the trade. In fact just about every player we have parted ways with has had their production drop off our wound up injured. Looks like we know when to trade.

halloween 65 · 09-25-2013, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

And that imo is the main reason why we traded him. I had absolutely no problem at all with the trade. In fact just about every player we have parted ways with has had their production drop off our wound up injured. Looks like we know when to trade.

Maybe, but Vilma, Smith, Ellis, and a few others that past their prime needed to go a lot sooner but someone in the Saints front office looked at them like they do an old worn out pair of shoes and kept them around for sentimental value. He!! Vilma and Smith made the team this year both should have been long gone 2 years ago. Not so sure we know when to trade or let go, the jury is still out for me on that issue!!

09-24-2013, 05:01 PM	#1
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty The thread I mentioned earlier: Saints use of Mark Ingram borders on criminal - Page 3 - The Shark Pool (NFL Talk) - Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums Highlights: Not a pretty picture... top 10 carries/snaps for RB with more than 18 snaps + Ingram @ 18 Snps Carries PCT YPC mathews 20 13 0.650 2.5 cj2k 43 25 0.581 2.8 williams 31 17 0.548 5.1 f jax 26 13 0.500 5.2 ingram 18 9 0.500 1.2 mccoy 65 31 0.477 5.9 spiller 37 17 0.459 2.4 mendenhall 35 16 0.457 3.8 tate 20 9 0.450 6.1 charles 36 16 0.444 4.8 For his career, Ivory is averaging an astonishing 5.1 yards per carry (compared to the 3.9 of Ingram) despite the fact that when he's in the game it's a telltale sign the Saints are running (74.9 percent of his snaps were on running plays), letting the offense key in on him. I am not lamenting that we traded away Ivory, but when you see he still managed over 5.1 yards a carry even though his carry-to-snap ratio is a full 15% higher than Ingram (74 vs. 59), the "Ingram always faces 8 man fronts" argument becomes pretty much indefensible.
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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by dueceloose Any videos of Khiry running vs Cards Do you know how to do torrents? Every week for the last 4-5 years I download games from tenyardtorrents.com to watch/study. They have some kinda tricky rules about how much you are supposed to upload vs. download but it's absolutely the best way to get game footage. Boutte likes this.
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dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty He reminds me a lot of PT the way he puts his hand down and cuts.
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09-25-2013, 10:01 AM	#8
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Jack Vegas The thread I mentioned earlier: Saints use of Mark Ingram borders on criminal - Page 3 - The Shark Pool (NFL Talk) - Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums Highlights: Not a pretty picture... top 10 carries/snaps for RB with more than 18 snaps + Ingram @ 18 Snps Carries PCT YPC mathews 20 13 0.650 2.5 cj2k 43 25 0.581 2.8 williams 31 17 0.548 5.1 f jax 26 13 0.500 5.2 ingram 18 9 0.500 1.2 mccoy 65 31 0.477 5.9 spiller 37 17 0.459 2.4 mendenhall 35 16 0.457 3.8 tate 20 9 0.450 6.1 charles 36 16 0.444 4.8 For his career, Ivory is averaging an astonishing 5.1 yards per carry (compared to the 3.9 of Ingram) despite the fact that when he's in the game it's a telltale sign the Saints are running (74.9 percent of his snaps were on running plays), letting the offense key in on him. I am not lamenting that we traded away Ivory, but when you see he still managed over 5.1 yards a carry even though his carry-to-snap ratio is a full 15% higher than Ingram (74 vs. 59), the "Ingram always faces 8 man fronts" argument becomes pretty much indefensible. Actually Ivory is down to 4.9 now since he is only averaging 2.8 this year and oh by the way out with a hamstring injury.

09-25-2013, 10:16 AM	#9
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Actually Ivory is down to 4.9 now since he is only averaging 2.8 this year and oh by the way out with a hamstring injury. And that imo is the main reason why we traded him. I had absolutely no problem at all with the trade. In fact just about every player we have parted ways with has had their production drop off our wound up injured. Looks like we know when to trade.
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09-25-2013, 12:08 PM	#10
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Khiry Robinson runs nasty Originally Posted by The Dude And that imo is the main reason why we traded him. I had absolutely no problem at all with the trade. In fact just about every player we have parted ways with has had their production drop off our wound up injured. Looks like we know when to trade. Maybe, but Vilma, Smith, Ellis, and a few others that past their prime needed to go a lot sooner but someone in the Saints front office looked at them like they do an old worn out pair of shoes and kept them around for sentimental value. He!! Vilma and Smith made the team this year both should have been long gone 2 years ago. Not so sure we know when to trade or let go, the jury is still out for me on that issue!!

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