2014 NFL Draft

K Major · 02-23-2014, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by exile

QBs. Johnny Football runs 4.56. Wow. McCarron has a live arm but a large gut. Bortles looks good and David Carr refuses to throw. What the heck?

Logan Thomas late to the Saints? Has all the skills and size but needs coaching. He could be a good one sitting behind Brees for awhile.

Yep. Johnny can run and AJ had a solid day. I agree Exile, not throwing at the combine was a missed opportunity for Carr to showcase his talent.

exile · 02-23-2014, 04:42 PM

WRs. Moncrief with a 4.40. Benjamin is a monster. Beckham is fast. Cooks is faster. Watkins is a superstar.

Moncrief is our best bet. Let's get him.

Overall, the WRs are fast, strong and have good hands. Talk about a deep position in this draft.

SaintLeonard · 02-23-2014, 05:03 PM

Jarvis Landry had a terrible combine, but those who really know Landry know that a bad combine was to be expected. Landry is not a great athlete. However, he does everything outstandingly well from a technical standpoint. He's probably the best route-runner in this draft, and he has as sure hands as any WR out there. He has a knack for creating separation, despite his less than stellar speed. I still think he's worth a late first or early second. I would love it if the Saints took Landry.

K Major · 02-23-2014, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

Jarvis Landry had a terrible combine, but those who really know Landry know that a bad combine was to be expected. Landry is not a great athlete. However, he does everything outstandingly well from a technical standpoint. He's probably the best route-runner in this draft, and he has as sure hands as any WR out there. He has a knack for creating separation, despite his less than stellar speed. I still think he's worth a late first or early second. I would love it if the Saints took Landry.

+1 Saint Leonard.

Landry is a gamer. When the lights come on, he shows up big. I still believe he was one of the best WR's (complete body of work) in college football last season.

jeanpierre · 02-23-2014, 06:21 PM

Am I the only one that expected a better 40 yard dash time from Johnny Manziel?

For a short quarterback, I expected a 4.4 or better...

TheOak · 02-24-2014, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Am I the only one that expected a better 40 yard dash time from Johnny Manziel?

For a short quarterback, I expected a 4.4 or better...

Wilson ran a 4.55 and is shorter than Manziell. These are QBs brother.

40 yard times for QBs are moot, quickness is more relevant than speed.

exile · 02-24-2014, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

40 yard times for QBs are moot, quickness is more relevant than speed.

I have to disagree with you a bit here Oak. QBs times used to be moot but with today's hybrid QBs. It's a big deal.

TheOak · 02-24-2014, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by exile

I have to disagree with you a bit here Oak. QBs times used to be moot but with today's hybrid QBs. It's a big deal.

Kindly re-read what I said "40 times for QBs are moot". Quickness is most important.

E.g. 20 yard shuttle. 3 cone drill.. Explosiveness and agility. It is more important that a QB can duck, dive, dodge a wrench than cover 40 yards.

Manziel was 4th in the 40 but #1 in the 20 yard shuttle.

QBs rarely cover 40 yards in a play.

exile · 02-24-2014, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Kindly re-read what I said "40 times for QBs are moot". Quickness is most important.

I read it correctly. But I still have nightmares of Newton taking a corner and running down the field like a gazelle being chased by *****cats. So yeah, I still think the 40 is pretty important to a certain class of QBs. Quickness is also important, I get that.

jeanpierre · 02-27-2014, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Wilson ran a 4.55 and is shorter than Manziell. These are QBs brother.

40 yard times for QBs are moot, quickness is more relevant than speed.

Right.

But Wilson was drafted in the third round...

There talking about these guys in the first round...

Look, I hope these teams burn a 1R pick on a short QB...

I just don't want MY team burning a first rounder on a QB unless he's a proto-type passer, 6-3 or better, cannon for an arm and one of Dan Marino's Love Ilk...

And, if'n he's under that, he better smoke jokes that can't run a 4.4 with 'em if he's gonna take our first round pick in a draft...

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02-23-2014, 04:42 PM	#2
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	2014 NFL Draft WRs. Moncrief with a 4.40. Benjamin is a monster. Beckham is fast. Cooks is faster. Watkins is a superstar. Moncrief is our best bet. Let's get him. Overall, the WRs are fast, strong and have good hands. Talk about a deep position in this draft.
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02-23-2014, 05:03 PM	#3
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Jarvis Landry had a terrible combine, but those who really know Landry know that a bad combine was to be expected. Landry is not a great athlete. However, he does everything outstandingly well from a technical standpoint. He's probably the best route-runner in this draft, and he has as sure hands as any WR out there. He has a knack for creating separation, despite his less than stellar speed. I still think he's worth a late first or early second. I would love it if the Saints took Landry.

02-23-2014, 05:19 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,852 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by SaintLeonard Jarvis Landry had a terrible combine, but those who really know Landry know that a bad combine was to be expected. Landry is not a great athlete. However, he does everything outstandingly well from a technical standpoint. He's probably the best route-runner in this draft, and he has as sure hands as any WR out there. He has a knack for creating separation, despite his less than stellar speed. I still think he's worth a late first or early second. I would love it if the Saints took Landry. +1 Saint Leonard. Landry is a gamer. When the lights come on, he shows up big. I still believe he was one of the best WR's (complete body of work) in college football last season.

02-23-2014, 06:21 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Am I the only one that expected a better 40 yard dash time from Johnny Manziel? For a short quarterback, I expected a 4.4 or better...

02-23-2014, 05:38 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,852 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by exile QBs. Johnny Football runs 4.56. Wow. McCarron has a live arm but a large gut. Bortles looks good and David Carr refuses to throw. What the heck? Logan Thomas late to the Saints? Has all the skills and size but needs coaching. He could be a good one sitting behind Brees for awhile. Yep. Johnny can run and AJ had a solid day. I agree Exile, not throwing at the combine was a missed opportunity for Carr to showcase his talent.

02-24-2014, 07:11 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Am I the only one that expected a better 40 yard dash time from Johnny Manziel? For a short quarterback, I expected a 4.4 or better... Wilson ran a 4.55 and is shorter than Manziell. These are QBs brother. 40 yard times for QBs are moot, quickness is more relevant than speed.

02-24-2014, 09:10 AM	#7
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by TheOak 40 yard times for QBs are moot, quickness is more relevant than speed. I have to disagree with you a bit here Oak. QBs times used to be moot but with today's hybrid QBs. It's a big deal.
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02-24-2014, 09:25 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by exile I have to disagree with you a bit here Oak. QBs times used to be moot but with today's hybrid QBs. It's a big deal. Kindly re-read what I said "40 times for QBs are moot". Quickness is most important. E.g. 20 yard shuttle. 3 cone drill.. Explosiveness and agility. It is more important that a QB can duck, dive, dodge a wrench than cover 40 yards. Manziel was 4th in the 40 but #1 in the 20 yard shuttle. QBs rarely cover 40 yards in a play.
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02-24-2014, 09:32 AM	#9
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by TheOak Kindly re-read what I said "40 times for QBs are moot". Quickness is most important. I read it correctly. But I still have nightmares of Newton taking a corner and running down the field like a gazelle being chased by *****cats. So yeah, I still think the 40 is pretty important to a certain class of QBs. Quickness is also important, I get that.
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02-27-2014, 07:03 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2014 NFL Draft Originally Posted by TheOak Wilson ran a 4.55 and is shorter than Manziell. These are QBs brother. 40 yard times for QBs are moot, quickness is more relevant than speed. Right. But Wilson was drafted in the third round... There talking about these guys in the first round... Look, I hope these teams burn a 1R pick on a short QB... I just don't want MY team burning a first rounder on a QB unless he's a proto-type passer, 6-3 or better, cannon for an arm and one of Dan Marino's Love Ilk... And, if'n he's under that, he better smoke jokes that can't run a 4.4 with 'em if he's gonna take our first round pick in a draft...
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