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jeanpierre

06-03-2014 06:19 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

CBS Sports Network: Drew Brees on Jimmy Graham's franchise-tag designation grievance - Video - CBSSports.com

Drew...finally puts a good neutral response out there...

Danno

06-03-2014 06:29 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Good grief, can we finally kill this poll thread now and move on?

He was franchised over a month ago so this poll is even more useless than the average useless poll.

It looks bush league.

exile

06-03-2014 06:32 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Thanks for bringing it back to the top. :)

AsylumGuido

06-03-2014 06:37 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Bump. Just kidding. Oh, wait ... nevermind.

Danno

06-03-2014 06:39 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 596028)

Thanks for bringing it back to the top. :)

It was already at the top, which is why I made the comment.

Are you corksuchers trying to run members off?

exile

06-03-2014 06:41 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 596032)

It was already at the top, which is why I made the comment.

Are you corksuchers trying to run members off?

No we are trying to discuss Jimmy Graham acting like Batman when we all know he is Robin.

Danno

06-03-2014 06:48 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 596033)

No we are trying to discuss Jimmy Graham acting like Batman when we all know he is Robin.

Then how about starting a thread about it instead of continuing a thread about whether we should franchise him or not?

Uhhh, attention dumbasses, we franchised him a long time ago.

Seer1

06-03-2014 09:00 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Hahaha! Some **** just makes me laugh.:-D

exile

06-04-2014 02:45 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Shame on you Jimmy.

jeanpierre

06-04-2014 07:58 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Vernon Davis closely watching Jimmy Graham’s contract situation - 49ers - The Sacramento Bee

Isn't this the guy that said we were trading Mark Ingram to the G'nats?!?

Joker

06-04-2014 08:35 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 596025)

Good grief, can we finally kill this poll thread now and move on?

He was franchised over a month ago so this poll is even more useless than the average useless poll.

It looks bush league.

Very seldom I agree with Danno, but this about says it all.

exile

06-04-2014 08:36 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 596190)

Very seldom I agree with Danno, but this about says it all.

The one time he is wrong you agree with him? :)

Joker

06-04-2014 08:39 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 596191)

The one time he is wrong you agree with him? :)

I thought I wrote it somewhere,
YEA!!!!

SmashMouth

06-06-2014 08:59 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Vernon Davis lobbies for Jimmy Graham to get paid | ProFootballTalk

Seer1

06-06-2014 09:20 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 596334)

Vernon Davis lobbies for Jimmy Graham to get paid | ProFootballTalk

I really like input from a totally impartial observer...

jeanpierre

06-10-2014 06:38 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Well, one week away from the two day, June 17-18, arbitration grievance hearing regarding Graham's position designation...

There was opinion both in sports columns and here in B&G that both the Saints and Graham representation wanted to avoid arbitration...

I for one want resolution not only in regards to his contract but on the position assignment and look forward as the JG contract saga resolves itself...

hagan714

06-10-2014 06:50 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

At this point i say when he gets here he gets here. If he ends up over there so be it. if not he can sit the year out and eat Doritos. we own him. then we can sell him again next year.

tell ya what i will do for you today and only you but you need to act fast.

kinda like dealing in use cars :cool:

jeanpierre

06-10-2014 08:45 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 596675)

LOL

B_Dub_Saint

06-10-2014 09:14 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

I like turtles.

jeanpierre

06-10-2014 11:09 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

NFL strident about Graham grievance | ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre

06-11-2014 01:18 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Bell: Drew Brees ready to go with or without Jimmy Graham

You know, silver lining in this saga is that if, as has been offered, that the Saints offense has become predictable, imagine that Brees will now have to work without him for the time being and will develop other options and will get away from the Graham tunnel vision he may have been guilty...

This should be a good thing...

jeanpierre

06-13-2014 01:42 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham a franchise tight end, clearly not a wide receiver | Larry Holder | NOLA.com

jeanpierre

06-13-2014 01:43 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

https://twitter.com/TheJimmyGraham

Jimmy Graham [Verified account]
@TheJimmyGraham

New Orleans Saints Tight End #80.
Private Pilot

AsylumGuido

06-13-2014 02:00 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 597138)

https://twitter.com/TheJimmyGraham

Jimmy Graham [Verified account]
@TheJimmyGraham

New Orleans Saints Tight End #80.
Private Pilot

He has never said he wasn't a tight end. He is nothing but a pawn in the NFLPA's game.

exile

06-13-2014 02:23 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 597139)

He has never said he wasn't a tight end. He is nothing but a pawn in the NFLPA's game.

The problem is that he never said he is a TE either.

AsylumGuido

06-13-2014 02:39 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 597140)

The problem is that he never said he is a TE either.

And why should he. He is as much a spectator in all of this as the rest of us.

halloween 65

06-13-2014 02:50 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 597142)

And why should he. He is as much a spectator in all of this as the rest of us.

Union members bring the grievence to the Union. He is no spectator!! He is doing it for the money. It's his grievence, not our's.

AsylumGuido

06-13-2014 04:33 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 597144)

Union members bring the grievence to the Union. He is no spectator!! He is doing it for the money. It's his grievence, not our's.

No, the NFLPA is doing it for future leverage, just like they did with the Brees case two years ago. Graham is going to get exactly the same long term deal regardless of franchise designation.

jeanpierre

06-15-2014 03:39 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

New Orleans Saints links: Debating Jimmy Grahams value - ESPN

Triplett reviews Larry Holder's arguments in his most recent article...

jeanpierre

06-16-2014 08:12 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Two day hearing begins tomorrow, expect things to move fast once a resultant is announced...

jeanpierre

06-16-2014 05:25 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Jimmy Graham's grievance hearing caps final week of New Orleans Saints' OTAs | NOLA.com

jeanpierre

06-16-2014 05:26 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Does Jimmy Graham have a valid case with grievance hearing? | Black and Gold Today | NOLA.com

The Dude

06-16-2014 07:50 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

To hear some of the experts say it Jimmy has a more than better chance of winning. If he does I don't think we waste the cap space on him. We pay him his tender this year and just let him walk next year. Or sign and trade him idk.

lee909

06-17-2014 12:10 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

We cant sign and trade him without eating the tag money and if he wins its 12ml to throw down the pan.

The interesting thing will be if the Saints win as he could be signed on the tag for the next two years for under $10ml each year.

SaintFanInATLHELL

06-17-2014 06:49 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 597385)

We cant sign and trade him without eating the tag money and if he wins its 12ml to throw down the pan.

Correct on all counts.

Quote:

The interesting thing will be if the Saints win as he could be signed on the tag for the next two years for under $10ml each year.

Probably penny wise/pound foolish. After the 2nd year he'd be eligible for QB money which the Saints cannot afford. So they'd have to let him go.

What they would do is leverage it for a decent long term deal that's cap friendly for the first 3 years and still the biggest TE contract in NFL history.

SFIAH

lee909

06-17-2014 07:35 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

I wonder what shape his body will be in after 3/4 years. With the banning and fines for high hits players are going lower and them throws to the slot are giving players free shots and they could take there toll very quickly

SmashMouth

06-17-2014 08:26 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Today is the day... :popcorn:

jeanpierre

06-17-2014 08:28 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

Jimmy Graham, New Orleans Saints should strike deal now - ESPN

"Most observers seem to agree that Graham is more likely to be declared a tight end than a receiver. And if that happens, Graham and agent Jimmy Sexton would also lose a great deal of leverage in their long-term contract negotiations with the Saints.

If Graham’s grievance is denied, the Saints could lock him up for two straight years with the franchise tag at costs of $7.035 million in 2014 and $8.44 million in 2015. And the Saints, therefore, wouldn’t have much incentive to offer Graham more than $10 million per year."

This is what I find maddening about Triplett, he writes the above and in the same article argues the Saints should sign him even though they'll probably win their case against Graham...

I'd like to see this thing geaux through arbitration and a logical person recognize that you can't reap the benefits of being a tight end, call yourself a tight end, and then argue for WR money...

I'd like the Saints to win this one then come back and sign Graham as the highest paid TE in the NFL...(for now, at least)

AsylumGuido

06-17-2014 09:44 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

For any of you that still feel Graham is personally responsible for this whole issue, just check this out

Quote:

Katherine Terrell ‏@Kat_Terrell 37m

NFL Management Council will make the argument for the Saints, NFLPA will argue on behalf of Graham.

This is, and always has been, nothing more than a power struggle between the NFLPA and the league. Graham just happens to be the player with the correct circumstances in place to be used in this challenge. As I have pointed out many, many times, he is nothing more than a pawn in the affair with no say.

jnormand

06-17-2014 01:45 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham Contract

I'm not mad at Jimmy but I'm irritated by the whole thing. I hope they rule he's a TE and he gets signed. If he gets the WR tag, I wouldn't blame them if the Saints try to get out of the tag and say **** it.

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