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If Jimmy is gonna wait until July to sign..................we need to draft a receiver and get Hill ready. We saw what happened when Brees re-signed at that point in 2012, the saints defense was bad yes but the first few games Brees was playing sloppy. He played better when we were getting behind. I blame that on lack of practice time. Graham will be rusted when the season starts and that could hurt us. We need to get Hill involved and start having a good receiver from the draft be able to fill some of the rust void by Graham.

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If he got a long term deal of better than the Saints can/want to pay him it wouldn't surprise me. Thats not a knock on Jimmy but he is already had injuries and will want to secure his families long term future.

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May 2: Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets.

May 7: Deadline for prior club to exercise right of first refusal to restricted free agents.

May 8-10: NFL draft, New York, Radio City Music Hall. First round begins at 8 p.m. ET.

Cant happen after the draft. Restricted Free Agent is the same as a Non-Exclusive Franchise Tag in this regard. It is not up to Jimmy, once today passes his window is closed.

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Graham and a Super Bowl

What a gift

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So the coaches are in Vegas this weekend. Are we drafting California Chrome?

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Yes and no. Is it spelled out "RFA is the same as NEFT"? No
It is an understood. The only difference between RFA and NEFT is that there are two First round draft picks and a calculated 1 year salary associated with the NEFT.

Both hit the market on the same date, both are free to shop at will, both give the clubs the right of first refusal of an offering teams contract.

Florio has a different interpretation but Florio is also the one that said jimmy has 3 years to appeal and that is incorrect. He either has not read the entire CBA and reads one section looking for things not stated assuming the answer or he doesn't have the capacity to grasp that some sections are governed by other sections (unless otherwise stated). Florio references "July 15th", that date is on Page 46 Atricle 10, Section 2, subsection (K), stating the Saints have until July 15th or the first Monday after is if falls on a weekend to sign a multi-year contract.

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Here is what Florio missed. In the Restricted Free Agency Section.
Page 37, Atricle 9, Section 2 (e)
Signing Period. The dates of the period in which Restricted Free Agents shall be free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club (the "Signing Period") shall be agreed upon by the NFL and the NFLPA by the previous September 1, but in no event may such Signing Period be less than thirty-five days, nor may it end later than five days before the Draft for that League Year, unless the parties agree other wise.

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Here we go. Get ready for the ride. Grievance filed.

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We cant trade him, he doesn't have a contract. Why file today, get the draft done first.

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This is going to get old....it already is.

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lmao the drama is killing me

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Wouldn't bother me in the least. We free up $7m in cap space. No harm done.

The Saints have more than reaped the benefits of Jimmy's great play for low pay for a few years now.

Graham is a Free Agent. No one is upset we didn't get anything for the other Free Agents that have gone.

Now had we paid him or taking a cap hit this season for nothing.... Different story.

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My picking of Hill for break out player would look good!.

I think we could cope if he does and be in a really strong position moving forward

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Would have cost them 8-11ml a year

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I do find it interesting that teams will be aggressive moving up in the draft but say its bad value to pay two first rounders for proven talent.

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I tried to trade Jimmy Graham on my franchise mode in Madden. He's got a 99 overall, yet nobody would give me a 1st for him. I couldn't get Alston Jeffrey, AJ Green, or Josh Gordon for him. Teams wouldn't give me anything you'd think his value would demand. Then I realized, TE's don't win Super Bowls.

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Now here is the inspiration for a new R&B/Rap song...when shall we expect its release?:broccoli:

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Because a first round draft pick costs you how much cap space in addition to the 2 draft picks? Joeckel #2 overall was a cap hit of 3.5m in 2013, 13m signing bonus and no guaranteed.

Graham for instance would cost then 2 Firsts plus at least 10m in cap space along with 30m guaranteed.

Rookie contracts are shorter and top 15 come with a 5th year option.

Because a first rounder comes at 20m over 4 years, none guaranteed but the signing bonus he is less of a gamble than a Graham at 60m over 5 with 30m guaranteed.

Proven doesn't matter much in this league when you balance that with loss of money because of injury or players that get paid and stop producing.


Most of all 2 first round draft picks are given in the draft for?

Not Tight Ends.

It's everything.. What JP said above and what I've added.

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Lol. My bad SmashMouth. I shot a video yesterday too. Probably shoot when in New Orleans next. I need to go ahead and put something together.

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B-I-N-G-O (...and CHECKMATE)!

Can anybody say: Trent Richardson?

:bng:

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the only way i see Jimmy traded is to a team that believes he would be the missing piece to get to the super bowl.

so that would be pick 32 or 31 if they were correct.

If not oh well another GM on the market looking for a job

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A deal will get done. It will !

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Anyword yet ?

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Thousands of them.
Just all pointless will he, wont he

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Meh, he's washed up. More and more teams are showing everyone else how to make him a non-factor. Plenty of big power forwards out there in college hoopsland. 7mil would buy us some nice OL and LB talent...

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Washed up?? He had a better season than every single TE in the league last year, and he's still young and getting better. Graham is the furthest thing from being washed up.

He's also an integral part of our offense.. We'd still be good on offense without Graham, but he takes us to another level imo. We're lucky to have Graham, and I have faith a new deal will get done.