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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintLeonard So let me get this straight - We're fortunate enough to have the best TE in the game on our team, and some people want to trade him away for a couple of draft picks that ...

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Old 02-26-2014, 01:59 PM   #1
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard View Post
So let me get this straight - We're fortunate enough to have the best TE in the game on our team, and some people want to trade him away for a couple of draft picks that may or may not pan out?

This can't be real life.
You couldn't be more on target. Graham is a TD machine and will get better each year. Trade him? Drop him? I don't get it.
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You couldn't be more on target. Graham is a TD machine and will get better each year. Trade him? Drop him? I don't get it.
We would love additional modalities such as the ultimate-blocking-machine and the ultimate-show-up-at-big-games-machine to complement the TD machine.
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We would love additional modalities such as the ultimate-blocking-machine and the ultimate-show-up-at-big-games-machine to complement the TD machine.
Exactly. I wish I would've seen the machine in the playoffs. Or against New England. Or the Jets. Or Carolina. Etc..
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Exactly. I wish I would've seen the machine in the playoffs. Or against New England. Or the Jets. Or Carolina. Etc..
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Graham @ NYJ: 9 recs, 116 yards, 2 TDs
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

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Exactly. I wish I would've seen the machine in the playoffs. Or against New England. Or the Jets. Or Carolina. Etc..
Against the Jets he had 116 yards and two touchdowns, In the two games against Carolina he had 131 yards and 3 touchdowns.

And if he's being taken out of so many games, how did he end up with over 1200 yards for the season?

And if every one knows how to shut him out of games, how did he get 16 touchdowns? Which receivers can't get shut out? How many scores did they get?
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

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So let me get this straight - We're fortunate enough to have the best TE in the game on our team, and some people want to trade him away for a couple of draft picks that may or may not pan out?

This can't be real life.
Well just to be fair they're also eliminating a 12 million cap hit along with him, or rather they're freeing up 12 million of cap space AND getting a couple draft picks.

So you have...

A-Jimmy at 12 million per season (although we know that number will come down)

--OR--

B-Two high draft picks, AND 12 million per season to spend on other free-agents.

An example of option B would be two 1st round picks AND OC Alex Mack AND another CB like Keenan Lewis.
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Old 02-26-2014, 02:31 PM   #7
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Well just to be fair they're also eliminating a 12 million cap hit along with him, or rather they're freeing up 12 million of cap space AND getting a couple draft picks.

So you have...

A-Jimmy at 12 million per season (although we know that number will come down)

--OR--

B-Two high draft picks, AND 12 million per season to spend on other free-agents.

An example of option B would be two 1st round picks AND OC Alex Mack AND another CB like Keenan Lewis.
Those are two draft picks that may not pan out. There's also no guarantee we get Mack or another top flight CB. We'd have to compete with other teams for those players as well.

Yeah, I will definitely choose Graham.
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If we choose option B, we're getting two draft picks that, like I said, may not pan out. There's also no guarantee we get Mack or another top flight CB.

Yeah, I will definitely choose Graham.
We have had the #1 offense for many years before Jimmy, we will continue to have the #1 offense without him.

Jimmy may be priceless to many teams, but he is not priceless to us. We are successful because of the system. He is not worth 10mil per year to us, but I wont argue his market value is less than that.
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Those are two draft picks that may not pan out. There's also no guarantee we get Mack or another top flight CB. We'd have to compete with other teams for those players as well.

Yeah, I will definitely choose Graham.
And the 12m cap hit, meaning we have to cut at least 6m more in players, not resign any free agents, and cant afford to pay a practice squad or players we draft?
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Re: Jimmy Graham demanding 12 million per season?

I find the idea of signing Alex Mack, a center to a 8-9 million dollar yearly contract more absurd than hypothetically paying Graham 12 million.

The big difference is that's what it's going to take to sign Mack while Graham is certainly not going to get 12 million per.

I still can't understand why people think signing Graham is going to cripple us or something... as if we're still not going to be able to sign free agents. We were in a tight cap situation last year and it didn't prevent us from signing Lewis.

This reeks of the PT thread where people started rag dolling Pierre Thomas for what he supposedly wanted the other year... and got nothing remotely close to it.
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