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lee909 04-28-2016 10:36 AM

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Im simply think we currently have two starting DT on the books who are both FA next year. Jenkins has done notjing of note for me and Fairley could go either way (thougj i like the pick up) getting a pair of DT now gets them embedded while we have others for rotation and they are ready to go by next year.

As i have said before my knowledge is off tjis year having seen no college football ladt year

Anyway Bleachers Reports Matt Miller final mock

1. Paxton Lynch, QB Round 1, 12th pick
2. Maliek Collins, DL Round 2, 16th pick
3. Jordan Jenkins, DE Round 3, 15th pick
4. Cayleb Jones, WR Round 4, 14th pick
5. Roberto Aguayo, K Round 5, 13th pick
6. Kevon Seymour, CB Round 7, 16th pick

The Pick: QB Paxton Lynch, Memphis

When pick No. 12 comes up tonight, I will not be surprised if the New Orleans Saints have traded out of it. If they stay, Paxton Lynch does make sense for a team that’s reportedly tried to land Marcus Mariota and Jared Goff via trades up in the last two drafts.

Lynch is an exciting, big-armed athlete with the mobility to execute the roll-outs in Sean Payton’s scheme. He also has the arm to throw down the field and up the seam—something Drew Brees does very well. The knock on Lynch is that he’s not pro-ready, but in New Orleans he doesn’t have to be with Brees in place for at least 2016.

Sheldon Rankins has often been mocked here and could still be in play for the Saints if they decide to wait on a quarterback. A name to keep in mind, based on what a scout in New Orleans told me, is Ole Miss defensive tackle Robert Nkemdiche.

Seer1 04-28-2016 10:59 AM

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Who the **** is Matt Miller and what the **** does he know? It's already been pretty much established that we did NOT make a try for Goff this year. If we draft a QB with our first pick this year, I'm going to start rooting for the Browns. At least they aren't even pretending to be a contender. QB? ****! Really?

Anyone have any more coffee???

|Mitch| 04-28-2016 11:00 AM

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If Paxton Lynch is the pick; I think he sits behind Drew this year and is the starter when Drew is not re-signed in 2017. That would give us 50 some-odd million in cap space...

lee909 04-28-2016 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 700984)
Who the **** is Matt Miller and what the **** does he know? It's already been pretty much established that we did NOT make a try for Goff this year. If we draft a QB with our first pick this year, I'm going to start rooting for the Browns. At least they aren't even pretending to be a contender. QB? ****! Really?

Anyone have any more coffee???

He's no different than any other draft expert. They are all the same making guess work on what will happen

|Mitch| 04-28-2016 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 700984)
Who the **** is Matt Miller and what the **** does he know?

Quote:

Bleacher Report's NFL Draft Lead Writer, Matt's work has been featured in the last three Madden video games, on ESPN, SiriusXM, NFL Network, CBS Sports Network, SI.com and USA Today as well as utilized by NFL, CFL and AFL teams. Matt was the secondary and special teams coordinator for the three-time league champion Joplin Crusaders of the Central Football League. Matt is also a member of the Pro Football Writers of America.
I'm guessing he knows more than about 95% of fans...

hagan714 04-28-2016 11:14 AM

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Paxton Lynch at 12?

I am still trying to wrap my mind around any of these guys in the top ten, ok maybe one. But Weitz? maybe round 2.

I would still take Cook all day over Weitz or Lynch

the rest of the draft I would be banging my head on the desk. back to drinking

lee909 04-28-2016 11:17 AM

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Arn't you like that every draft lol

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 01:11 PM

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jeanpierre 04-28-2016 01:13 PM

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Here's the schedule for Rounds 1-7, including TV coverage times and networks:

Round 1
Thursday: 8 p.m. ET on ESPN and NFL Network.

Note: Each team has 10 minutes to submit their official pick.
Rounds 2-3
Friday: 7 p.m. ET on ESPN and NFL Network. ESPN's coverage moves to ESPN 2 at 8 p.m. ET.

Note: Each team has 7 minutes to submit their official pick.
Rounds 4-7
Saturday: Noon ET on ESPN and NFL Network.

Note: Each team has 5 minutes to submit their official pick.


NFL Draft start time: Schedule, draft order, how to watch on TV and online - CBSSports.com

On a personal note, I'm now completely done with ESPN upon their dismissal of Curt Schilling...

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 05:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 700936)

Smash....

why is Walter C hating on us?

burningmetal 04-28-2016 06:15 PM

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I'm gonna blow your minds with something I heard a caller say on a local radio show earlier.

You guys ready for this? Here it goes.

"I can't give you an exact name, but I'm thinking they might go with a corner, or safety type player. It wouldn't surprise me if they get somebody like that. Maybe somebody that can rush the passer sometimes, and drop back in coverage maybe, sometimes. It wouldn't surprise me if they got somebody like that, and it wouldn't offend me if they did that".

Book it, fellas.

Seer1 04-28-2016 06:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 701075)
I'm gonna blow your minds with something I heard a caller say on a local radio show earlier.

You guys ready for this? Here it goes.

"I can't give you an exact name, but I'm thinking they might go with a corner, or safety type player. It wouldn't surprise me if they get somebody like that. Maybe somebody that can rush the passer sometimes, and drop back in coverage maybe, sometimes. It wouldn't surprise me if they got somebody like that, and it wouldn't offend me if they did that".

Book it, fellas.

Especially if he's 6'4" and weighs around 300 pounds!

burningmetal 04-28-2016 06:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 701076)
Especially if he's 6'4" and weighs around 300 pounds!

I imagine that would be the perfect safety size, in that guy's mind.

voodooido 04-28-2016 06:50 PM

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Anyway Bleachers Reports Matt Miller final mock

1. Paxton Lynch, QB Round 1, 12th pick
2. Maliek Collins, DL Round 2, 16th pick
3. Jordan Jenkins, DE Round 3, 15th pick
4. Cayleb Jones, WR Round 4, 14th pick
5. Roberto Aguayo, K Round 5, 13th pick
6. Kevon Seymour, CB Round 7, 16th pick


Matt Miller suffers from an extra chromosome. No way we wait till rd 5 to draft a kicker. I see us trading up in rd 2 to take one.

hagan714 04-28-2016 07:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 701075)
I'm gonna blow your minds with something I heard a caller say on a local radio show earlier.

You guys ready for this? Here it goes.

"I can't give you an exact name, but I'm thinking they might go with a corner, or safety type player. It wouldn't surprise me if they get somebody like that. Maybe somebody that can rush the passer sometimes, and drop back in coverage maybe, sometimes. It wouldn't surprise me if they got somebody like that, and it wouldn't offend me if they did that".

Book it, fellas.

I am trying but in the first round I do not see it. not in the media rankings. round 2 and on sure but 1? I am stumped

burningmetal 04-28-2016 07:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 701084)
I am trying but in the first round I do not see it. not in the media rankings. round 2 and on sure but 1? I am stumped

Yeah, I don't see it either. I just a few people might find it funny. His rambling comments were very entertaining to me. I just posted the part that I could remember.

jeanpierre 04-29-2016 07:10 AM

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Titans rookie GM Jon Robinson absolutely killed it in the first round in the draft; he owned it, y'all hearing me?

Hope I don't jinx him, but will all those picks he amassed in overselling the top pick and then to patiently wait, strike and suddenly move back up into the top ten to get the best blind side tackle in the draft for Mariota was awesome to watch; and he spread the add'l two picks over two drafts and still kept his ones!!!

He wisely knew he wanted no part of Tunsil (hey, any idiot who takes a picture incriminating himself, allowing it to get posted on his own personal social media account and then continues to show he's an idiot wearing shoes like on a National televised draft, and the show not being Dancing with the Strippers, you know you want no part of)...

And this is now the Titans' draft for the remaining top 100 picks...

Not to bad for a former Nicholls State (Thibodaux, Louisiana (my hometown)) graduate assistant who caught a break and proved himself in the New England Patriots Scouting Department...

My best, dearest friend from Wellesley, Mass tells me he will be missed by the Patriots; now I continue to get gigged about our Yes Man for a General Manager...

To you, Mr. Robinson, well played sir, well played indeed...


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lee909 04-29-2016 07:28 AM

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Yeah i think they are building a good base there. I think the Jags are doing the same too.

The Titsns three of the next 14 picks too

jeanpierre 04-29-2016 08:44 AM

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I wouldn't want to be in the AFC South in the next couple of years...

Houston Texans are just a couple of picks away from first round playoff team to deep in the playoffs with J.J. Watt and that defense; now have a QB to dish it around with that offensive line...

Tennessee Titans won't have a dearth of talent to complement Mariota with all those high draft picks...

Jacksonville just signed to really nice free agent picks on defense, stole Jalen Ramsey, and have one of the real promising passing attacks in the league...

Baltimore, sorry, Indianapolis Colts now have the best young quarterback in the league; just need to get a head coach and some talent to protect Luck...

That's gonna be one tough division real fast...

brees84 04-29-2016 08:50 AM

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Some good players will be on the board tonight.

WR

Michael Thomas 6'3'' 212lbs

TE

Hunter Henry 6'5'' 250lbs

OL

Cody Whitehair 6'4'' 301lbs
Le'Raven Clark 6'5'' 316lbs
Christian Westerman 6'3'' 298lbs
Nick Martin 6'4'' 299lbs
Connor McGovern 6'4'' 306lbs

DE

Kevin Dodd 6'5'' 277lbs
Emmanuel Ogbah 6'4'' 273lbs
Kamalei Correa 6'3'' 243lbs

DT

5-6 rock solid guys (Billings,Johnson,Jones, Reed...) Deep draft at DT... But we already drafted DT in round 1...

LB

Su'a Cravens 6'1'' 226lbs
Myles Jack 6'1'' 245lbs
Deion Jones 6'1'' 222lbs

CB

Mackensie Alexander 5'10'' 190lbs
Kendall Fuller 5'11 187lbs

S

Vonn Bell 5'11'' 199lbs
T.J Green 6'2'' 209lbs
Justin Simmons 6'2'' 202lbs

brees84 04-29-2016 08:52 AM

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Some good players will be on the board tonight.

WR

Michael Thomas 6'3'' 212lbs

TE

Hunter Henry 6'5'' 250lbs

OL

Cody Whitehair 6'4'' 301lbs
Le'Raven Clark 6'5'' 316lbs
Christian Westerman 6'3'' 298lbs
Nick Martin 6'4'' 299lbs
Connor McGovern 6'4'' 306lbs

DE

Kevin Dodd 6'5'' 277lbs
Emmanuel Ogbah 6'4'' 273lbs
Kamalei Correa 6'3'' 243lbs

DT

5-6 rock solid guys (Billings,Johnson,Jones, Reed...) Deep draft at DT... But we already drafted DT in round 1...

LB

Su'a Cravens 6'1'' 226lbs
Myles Jack 6'1'' 245lbs
Deion Jones 6'1'' 222lbs

CB

Mackensie Alexander 5'10'' 190lbs
Kendall Fuller 5'11 187lbs

S

Vonn Bell 5'11'' 199lbs
T.J Green 6'2'' 209lbs
Justin Simmons 6'2'' 202lbs

hagan714 04-29-2016 09:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 701426)

DT

5-6 rock solid guys (Billings,Johnson,Jones, Reed...) Deep draft at DT... But we already drafted DT in round 1...

I do not expect the saints to draft a space eater mow. that would make way to much sense since we back our selves into a corner going small and quick at DT in round 1. That has not been their MO over the past 5 years. We do not draft or sign FA that accent or help maximize another player.

I would go all out for a space eater to take the double teams off of sheldon

Praying the new front office has there heads screwed on straight.

Tonight short list

Jarran Reed, DT/DE, Alabama 6034 307 5.21
Conner Cook QB Michigan St. 6042 220 4.89
Sean Davis S/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.46
Chris Jones DT/DE Mississippi St 6045 308 5.12
Joshua Perry, LB Ohio State: 6036 254 4.68
Austin Johnson NT Penn State 6043 314 5.32
Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri 6042 305 5.02
Justin Simmons SS Boston College 6024 201 4.53
Miles Killebrew DB Southern Utah 6017 217 4.51
Jordan Payton, UCLA, WR 6011 207 4.47
Joe Dahl OG Washington St. 6041 312 5.29

It is safe to say the saints will not draft any of these guys. I am 1 for a zillion with the saints lol

jeanpierre 04-29-2016 10:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 701012)
Here's the schedule for Rounds 1-7, including TV coverage times and networks:

Round 1
Thursday: 8 p.m. ET on ESPN and NFL Network.

Note: Each team has 10 minutes to submit their official pick.

Rounds 2-3
Friday: 7 p.m. ET on ESPN and NFL Network. ESPN's coverage moves to ESPN 2 at 8 p.m. ET.

Note: Each team has 7 minutes to submit their official pick.


Rounds 4-7
Saturday: Noon ET on ESPN and NFL Network.

Note: Each team has 5 minutes to submit their official pick.


NFL Draft start time: Schedule, draft order, how to watch on TV and online - CBSSports.com

On a personal note, I'm now completely done with ESPN upon their dismissal of Curt Schilling...

And we'll be back at it tonight...

jeanpierre 04-29-2016 10:27 AM

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Stanford G Josh Garnet was another guy that I didn't really like in this draft...Looks like Frisco bailed us out from a complete mistake...


ChrisXVI 04-29-2016 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 701445)
Stanford G Josh Garnet was another gay that I didn't really like in this draft...Looks like Frisco bailed us out from a complete mistake...

https://twitter.com/MikeTriplett/sta...62554024398848

What does his sexual preference have to do with anything?? Just messin' with ya lol. I agree.

K Major 04-29-2016 11:29 AM

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What player do you see us drafting tonight ?

Cravens, Reed, A Robinson or Big boy Billings anyone? If Spence is on still on the board at 47, I think SP/Ireland will pull the trigger OR do they take a chance on Jaylon Smith or Myles J (assuming they are there in the 2nd or 3rd)??

WillSaints81 04-29-2016 01:55 PM

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Cravens............The Vacarro comparisons bother me but it is a different position. What would Vacarro do as a OLB?

ChrisXVI 04-29-2016 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 701458)
What player do you see us drafting tonight ?

Cravens, Reed, A Robinson or Big boy Billings anyone? If Spence is on still on the board at 47, I think SP/Ireland will pull the trigger OR do they take a chance on Jaylon Smith or Myles J (assuming they are there in the 2nd or 3rd)??

I'd love Jonathan Bullard. I think Noah Spence and Michael Thomas are the leaders in the clubhouse though.

brees84 04-29-2016 03:26 PM

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Michael Thomas is the only WR out there I would take tonight.


I'd be happy if Dodd or Ogbah are on the board when we pick. Highly unlikely though...

hagan714 04-29-2016 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 701492)
Michael Thomas is the only WR out there I would take tonight.


I'd be happy if Dodd or Ogbah are on the board when we pick. Highly unlikely though...

I like

Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh 6014 197 4.47

better route runner and natural catcher. SILKY SMOOTH.

I knocked him as a 1st rounder nut in the second? solid pick

WillSaints81 04-29-2016 04:44 PM

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Dug deeper into safeties and corners up to round 4. We can wait for round 3 perhaps for the second best.

1.
He looked good against Clemson and got two interceptions, he was attacking anywhere near him and it was hard to throw his way. He had one whiff but otherwise looked solid. Against FSU, he missed on a tackle but the TD run was nullified. Otherwise he looked great. We can get him here or wait for round 3 for ...........

2.
BSU has turned out NFL players in the past especially on the defensive side and Thompson was aggressive throughout the game. These two clips were against bad teams though because he did have a bad whiff against Utah State. But otherwise, he was attacking at almost any point, he can sometimes be too quick but we want aggressiveness right?

3.
I have had problems with Baylor defensive players but I saw his tape against UNC, and thought he looked better than I thought. Oklahoma not as good. The UNC one is one to serve notice. He's likely gone round 2 but I would much rather have Simmons than him.

The next couple are going to need some coaching maybe idk.

4.
The guy that Bleacher Report has been hyping up as NFL ready outside round 1. We'll see. I mean he did not look bad it was USC but nothing spectacular either. Maybe he's fit for a safety imo and that could work. Round 3.

5.
He's the highest ranked of the CBs on this list on CBS. So this is about the lowest he goes as outside of round 2 corners get thin and harder to find. He's round 2 so he's serviceable.

These I don't want to take the chance on.

6.Cyrus Jones vs LSU (2015) | Draft Breakdown

7.Jalen Mills vs Alabama (2015) | Draft Breakdown

CBs from those two schools if good go first round usually not third round. Unless there's some injury or situation and they dropped. Otherwise no contest.

Fuller is injured so no to him and Redmond as well.

Draft
Round 2-Simmons
Round 2-Davis
Round 2-Howard(maybe)
Round 3-Thompson
Round 3-Russell

Do Not Draft
Round 3 or 4-Cyrus Jones
Round 3 or 4-Mills

jeanpierre 04-29-2016 05:47 PM

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Kalan Reed, So. Miss is our guy...

hagan714 04-29-2016 06:03 PM

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Round 2-Sean Davis - has a ton of buzz with the pats odds are he will not make the 3rd
Round 3-Justin Simmons - I really like smart safeties
Round 4-Kalan Reed - I am a bit gun shy but could see the pick

I could live with this. two DB that can play either safety spots and drop down into coverage. Most important thing with them they form tackle with force and excel in run support. back end of the saints defense would be set for years, win win plus in a pinch both can play CB. Simmons is better as a CB than Davis. Davis upside at safety is unreal. Simmons upside is between his ears.

Reed i will leave to you JP. I do not know enough about the kid but what I have seen he looks pretty good. Instincts are good.

Thompson - the more i watch the kid the more i understand the hype but at the same time for a kid that has played safety for so long there are a bit to many mental break downs for me.

brees84 04-29-2016 07:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 701492)
Michael Thomas is the only WR out there I would take tonight.


Nice. I like this pick.

WillSaints81 04-29-2016 11:07 PM

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Vonn Bell
Vonn Bell vs Michigan State (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Vonn Bell vs Maryland (2015) | Draft Breakdown

He's a strong safety but was drafted as a free safety? He might actually be better suited for it. I did see where he lacked tackles to an extent. He basically just stands there and waits to see if players come his way before tackling. However, he is good as defending the pass. He did get burned on a big Maryland play but made up for that later. If he can just move ahead to make tackles instead of waiting then he will be even better as it's really his only knock.

hagan714 04-29-2016 11:41 PM

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Vonn Bell better off at CB IMO

hagan714 04-29-2016 11:54 PM

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Juston Burris CB/FS NC STATE 6002 212 4.53

I want this kid since all my top dB are gone.
Round 2-Sean Davis - Pittsburgh
Round 3-Justin Simmons - Denver

He may not have a ton of INTs but he gets a lot of breakups. he lays the lumber when form tackling. I smell a special teams demon.

NFL Media draft analyst Lance Zierlein noted that North Carolina State CB Juston Burris "never backs down from a physical challenge."
Zierlein voiced surprise at just how little draft attention Burris has drawn to this point, hence why the Wolfpack NFL-hopeful cracked the analyst's lists of potential defensive draft steals. Wrote Zierlein, "I'm a fan of his football character on the field -- the way he competes and never backs down from a physical challenge, and how he plays his role in run support. While Burris doesn't have eye-catching ball-production numbers, there is enough there to believe he has a chance to be a competitive NFL cornerback." The 6-foot, 212-pounder did a nice job with his position drills at the NFL Scouting Combine in late February, with TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline relaying that he "looked fluid in drills, especially when flipping his hips [to change direction]." Apr 2 - 12:33 PM


Juston Burris - North Carolina State Wolfpack - 2016 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com

Juston Burris, CB, NC State, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Juston Burris Draft Profile

Juston Burris*|*North Carolina State,*CB*:*2016 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

NFL Draft Prospects at East-West Shrine Game the Broncos Should Have Interest In | Bleacher Report


Juston Burris NC State - Bing video

lee909 04-30-2016 12:37 AM

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Players mocked to go around the 5th

DTNILE LAWRENCE-STAMPLE
FLORIDA ST. ACC

COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE
5.2

6'1" HEIGHT

32 3/4" ARM LENGTH

320LBS. WEIGHT

9 7/8" HANDS


OVERVIEW
Lawrence-Stample is a run-stuffer, pure and simple. The nose tackle eats double teams for breakfast, lunch and dinner. If single-blocked, however, Lawrence-Stample can find the ball and has the short-area quickness to make the play, so NFL teams looking for a pure nose tackle could be interested. A pectoral injury limited him to four games in 2014, although he came back for the team's Rose Bowl appearance against Oregon (blocking an extra point). A healthy 2015 season, where he played in all 13 games and earned first-team All-ACC honors (36 tackles, 3.5 for loss, two sacks), gave NFL scouts something to consider when reviewing interior defenders.

PRO DAY RESULTS
40-yard dash: 5.13 seconds
Vertical: 27 inches
Broad jump: 10 feet, 5 inches
Short shuttle: 4.78 seconds
3-cone: 7.81 seconds
Bench: 24 reps of 225 pounds

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Stubby, but stout lower body. Decent lateral movement and is a willing chaser down the line. Has quickness off the snap to attack a gap and stress the edge. Better as aggressive upfield player than read-*and-*react two*-gapper. Very good vision into backfield and keeps running back locked in.

WEAKNESSES
Phone booth worker with limited play range. Inconsistent get-off after snap. Would like to see him become more aggressive with his punch and control technique when two-gapping. Average body control. Not much of a pass rusher.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5 or 6

NFL COMPARISON Zach Kerr

BOTTOM LINE
While he has the thickness of a plugging nose tackle, Lawrence*-Stample didn't control his grass and dominate at the point of attack as much as scouts wanted to see this season. He has enough power in his base to anchor against double teams and his work at the point of attack will improve with more hand work. Appears to be a backup interior lineman who can handle rotational work





OT JOE HAEGNORTH
DAKOTA ST. MISSOURI VALLEY

COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE
5.29

5.16 SEC
111.0 INCH
7.47 SEC
4.47 SEC

6'6" HEIGHT
33 3/4" ARM LENGTH
304LBS. WEIGHT
9 5/8" HANDS

OVERVIEW
Every draft since 2010 has seen at least one offensive lineman from a non-FBS school drafted in the top 100. Haeg is this year's best candidate, as the 2014 (AP, AFCA) and 2015 (AP, Walter Camp) All-American hopes to follow in his former teammate's shoes; tackle Billy Turner was drafted in the third round by Miami in 2014. This former walk-on received the Top Collegiate Offensive Lineman award from the FCS Athletic Directors Association in 2015, as well. Haeg, a two-time first team All-Missouri Valley Conference pick, started 60 of a possible 61 games (29 at right tackle, 32 on the left side after Turner went to the NFL).

PRO DAY RESULTS
Broad jump: 9 feet, 3 inches

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Athletic build with potential to add more bulk to his frame. Four-year starter who comes from winning program. Has played both tackle spots. Plays with good posture in his pass sets and uses his length effectively. Can get to the perimeter quickly and seal the edge when asked to short pull around the corner. Agile with lateral quickness. Drives his feet up and along line of scrimmage to maintain leverage in zone engagement. Doesn't panic against spin moves in pass rush.

WEAKNESSES
Gets caught on the balls of his feet in pass pro rather than sitting down to throw his punch. Needs more knee bend in pass sets. Core strength looks like a major concern. Wasn't challenged by premier athletes on the edge. Timing on combo blocks needs work. Shows better athletic ability laterally than when asked to find targets in space. Zone scheme only lineman. Leans and pushes rather than driving with his lower body. Struggles to sustain and control his blocks even when he wins early in rep.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 4 or 5

NFL COMPARISON James Hurst

BOTTOM LINE
While the pedigree and the body type look the part, continued tape study begins to uncover core strength issues that permeate several facets of his game. As a run blocker, his inability to drive and sustain blocks is a concern while his pass protection shows a good, initial pass set that turns into leaning to make up for his lack of anchor. While Haeg has the athletic traits of a zone blocking tackle, it won't matter without better functional power.






OT BRANDON SHELL
SOUTH CAROLINA SEC
COMBINE RESULTS

GRADE
5.22

5.22 SEC
22 REPS
112.0 INCH

6'5" HEIGHT
34 3/4" ARM LENGTH
324LBS. WEIGHT
10 3/4" HANDS

OVERVIEW
Yes, Brandon is the great nephew of Pro Football Hall of Famer Art Shell. But it wouldn't matter if he was instead a relative of early television-era star Art Carney ... he simply looks like an NFL tackle with a pro build and long limbs. He may be best at right tackle, a spot which he held down for three years, but he did flash athleticism to pass protect on the left side when he took over the blind side spot as a senior. Either way, if you want a strong run blocker (he will take smaller defenders 10 yards downfield once locked on) who can reach second-level defenders as well, then Shell's your man.

PRO DAY RESULTS
Short shuttle: 4.62 seconds
3-cone: 7.62 seconds

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Tall with exceptional length. Uses long arms to help him snare sudden inside pass rush moves and redirect edge speed past the pocket. Doesn’t have great footwork for directional change, but finds way to get it done. Patient and relatively accurate on his climbs up to linebackers off of combination blocks. Uses wide frame to his advantage against linebackers. Tape shows natural power and core strength. Functional base blocker in run game but will stalemate more than he wins. Has been a starting SEC tackle for almost entire time at South Carolina.

WEAKNESSES
Starts with a sound kick*slide, but immediately resorts to a hurried shuffle to try and catch up with edge rusher. Penalties come for rocking pre*-snap for fear of being beaten. Plays with disconnect between hands and feet. Outside foot deadens as he begins to work shoot initial punch in pass pro. More chaser than controlled protector. Too sluggish out of stance to consistently handle stunts inside. Needs better hand placement. Hand strength unimpressive. Doesn’t possess body control of NFL starter.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 6

BOTTOM LINE
Shell doesn’t have the feet to play left tackle and doesn’t bend well enough to generate consistent leverage and push as a guard inside. With that said, he has size and length and a four-year starting history in a challenging conference. Add everything up, and Shell looks to be a third day selection as a right tackle only. He may be an eventual starter, but is better* suited as a backup.





SEBASTIAN TRETOLA
ARKANSAS SEC

COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE
5.46

5.45 SEC
22 REPS
90.0 INCH
7.94 SEC
5.02 SEC

6'4" HEIGHT
31 1/2" ARM LENGTH
314LBS. WEIGHT
10 3/8" HANDS

OVERVIEW
Tretola actually began his career at Nevada, redshirting one season and starting four games the next, before heading to Iowa Western Community College for the 2013 season. In his first year with the Razorbacks, he used a strong base and brute strength to pave the way for two 1,000-yard rushers in Alex Collins and Jonathan Williams. Collins again crossed the 1,000-yard barrier in 2015, benefiting from Tretola's (who earned first-team All-SEC honors as a senior) mauling ways.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Outstanding frame and overall thickness throughout. Powerful upper body strength with a natural anchor down below. Won't lose many "power-on-power" scraps. Built like a bruising, NFL-*caliber guard in a power scheme. Can dominate as a base blocker. Possesses the will and exceptional power to generate early movement and take control of the neutral zone. When he gets his arms locked out, it's usually over for defenders. Nasty play demeanor. Arkansas staff can’t speak highly enough about him. One of the unsung catalysts over last two seasons for Arkansas’ power rushing attack. Willing to sumo fight with his hands and work to re-position them at the point of attack. Not a natural bender, but does work hard at trying to keep pad level as low as he can. Faced off against first round defensive tackle talent in the SEC and answered the bell. Recognizes twists and games up front. Mindful with footwork in lateral and can be more effective than expected when asked to reach and hook defenders.

WEAKNESSES
Short area, phone booth plodder. Noticeable leg stiffness with limited area of effectiveness. Feet stay stuck in the grass after initial contact leaving him susceptible to falling off blocks. Turns into a mauling, bear*-hugger as second-level blocker. Inconsistent on combo* blocks struggling to get off first block and up to the linebacker. Lack of athleticism limits ability to take quality angles up to flowing linebackers. Will duck head into contact in pass protection and has issues with over*-setting against athletic tackles. Has issues with leaning and wide hands in pass pro that are unlikely to change in the pros. Ineffective at changing direction and reacting to sudden a*-gap slashers and is likely to get your quarterback hit from time to time. Balance and body control are below average -- especially on the move.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 3 or 4

NFL COMPARISON Bobby Hart

BOTTOM LINE
Tretola plays with the in*-your*-face power and toughness that has been a perfect fit for Bret Bielema's, physical rushing attack in Arkansas. While he has the power to be one of the more physical NFL guards as soon as he steps into a camp, his stiffness and marginal athleticism could limit his draft stock and the amount of teams willing to consider him. Tretola could be an eventual starter in the league, but it will likely be for a team looking to grind it out between the tackles.





D.J. WHITE
GEORGIA TECH ACC

GRADE
5.59

4.49 SEC
17 REPS
33.0 INCH
132.0 INCH
7.18 SEC
4.33 SEC

5'11" HEIGHT
31 1/2" ARM LENGTH
193LBS. WEIGHT
9 1/4" HANDS

OVERVIEW
White made one of the more impressive plays of the 2014 season when he used his speed to chase down Pitt star running back James Conner on a 74-yard run to knock the ball out just before they reached the end zone. That hustle combined with his ability to make plays in coverage turned White into an honorable mention All-ACC selection in 2014 (team-best four interceptions, eight pass breakups). He played well again as a senior (41 tackles, two interceptions, eight pass breakups), making himself a coveted prospect at a prime position.

PRO DAY RESULTS
Vertical: 34 inches

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Team captain and three-year starter. Patient from press coverage and plays with balance. Disrupts receivers with well-*placed jabs. Plays with desired feel for his man throughout the route, working to stay in his pocket. Good short-area quicks to squeeze routes and close on throws. Challenges catch without running through receivers. Good leaper with high-*point ability. Instinctive and disciplined. Attacks catch point rather than man when in position. Forced a fumble all four years at Ga Tech. Should not be limited by scheme.

WEAKNESSES
Needs to get head around earlier with back to the ball. A little clunky flipping hips and changing directions sharply. Recovery speed is very average. Play strength needs improvement to challenge NFL size on perimeter. Waits on receiver after short catch giving away valuable yards after catch rather than attacking downhill. Head ducker in run support and finishes with arm tackles over chest*-up approach.

DRAFT PROJECTION Round 3

NFL COMPARISON Justin Bethel

BOTTOM LINE
While White is just a shade smaller and slower than teams usually like
outside, he makes up for it with his instincts, athleticism and cover skills. White is relatively clean in coverage and is able to stick to his targets, but may not take enough chances to become a ball *hawk who takes the ball away. White's ball skills and feel for the position could put him in position for early snaps as a third corner and he has eventual starter potential.

lee909 04-30-2016 12:45 AM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
C AUSTIN BLYTHE
IOWA BIG TEN

COMBINE RESULTS
GRADE
5.24

5.36 SEC
29 REPS
99.0 INCH
7.52 SEC
4.53 SEC


6'2" HEIGHT
30 1/4" ARM LENGTH
291LBS. WEIGHT
9 3/8" HANDS

OVERVIEW
In the sports world, Iowa is primarily known for two things: producing NFL offensive linemen and high-level wrestling. Blythe, a Williamsburg, Iowa native, is a perfect example of how those things go hand-in-hand. He was a two-time all-state pick in football (123 career tackles, 40 for loss, 14 sacks) and three straight heavyweight wresting titles (setting a state record with 143 pins) in a state that takes the sport very seriously. He put those skills to use in his redshirt freshman season, starting nine games at right guard but missing two due to injury. Blythe didn’t miss any more games during his three final years with the Hawkeyes, starting all 40 games at center. He gained recognition for his play each year, garnering consensus honorable mention All-Big Ten honors as a sophomore and second team All-Big Ten accolades from league coaches in 2014 and 2015. Blythe was even named as a Rimington Trophy finalist this season.

PRO DAY RESULTS
40-yard dash: 5.37 seconds
Vertical: 31 inches
Broad jump: 8 feet, 3 inches
Short shuttle: 4.5 seconds
3-cone drill: 7.53 seconds

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS
Four-year starter featuring durability and leadership qualities. Has played center and both guard spots which gives him a mental head*start. Controlled glider up to inside linebackers and plays with plus body control. Patient, confident run blocker who consistently lands his blocks in the center of his targets. Keeps his feet grinding after contact to generate movement and prolonged engagement as a blocker. Sticks to opponents like a shadow and is always bodied up near his man. Excellent outside zone blocker. Uses feet and upper body strength to run gap*-shooters up the field past the quarterback. The Hawkeyes love pulling him and using as lead blocker in space. Technician able to snap and step quickly on reach blocks. Sinks hips and can anchor up against bull rushers. Good functional strength for his size. Played in over 96 percent of team’s offensive snaps over last three years.

WEAKNESSES
Undersized by every standard that NFL teams use for centers. Lack of length and mass is a legitimate concern moving forward. Has played both guard spots and center, but size likely limits him to center only in the league. Teams may view him as fit for zone specific teams which could limit his draft stock. Catches pass rushers rather than punching. Will have to adjust to defensive tackles using length to disrupt his task. Tape shows potential mental mistakes in protection against blitzes.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 6 or 7

NFL COMPARISON Matt Paradis

BOTTOM LINE
Played with consistency throughout his stint as a four-year starter at Iowa and his 2015 tape is solid from start to finish. While his lack of physical traits could hurt where he is taken in the draft, his functional strength, technical savvy, athleticism and body control should not be ignored as he has all the makings of an eventual NFL starter.





CB RYAN SMITH
NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL MEAC


GRADE
5.39

4.47 SEC
18 REPS
36.0 INCH
122.0 INCH
6.88 SEC
4.09 SEC
11.18 SEC


5'11" HEIGHT
30 1/2" ARM LENGTH
189LBS. WEIGHT
8 7/8" HANDS

OVERVIEW
Major schools missed on this guy. The Maryland Big School All-State honorable mention pick has been a fixture in the NCCU secondary since arriving on campus, starting at least eight games each season. He tied for the FCS lead with four fumble recoveries as a freshman, while also intercepting three pases and breaking up five others. Smith had two interceptions, three pass breakups as a sophomore, recovering three more fumbles. Although he lacked a pick as a junior, he led the team with seven breakups in 2014. He starred as a senior for the Eagles, garnering second team All-MEAC honors as a cornerback (two INT, nine PBU) and returner (28.1 yards per kick return, one touchdown). Smith also accomplished something you don’t hear very often; he set the team career record for solo tackles with 168 as a cornerback.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS
Gets a solid pop in for his initial chuck at the line of scrimmage. Very smooth in his pedal and turn and does a nice job of reading a receiver's "tells" within his route. Quality footwork for mirror and match and sticks to the hip of his man. Plays with good balls skills and consistently turns to find the ball from man. In zone, slides according to quarterback's eyes restricting passing Windows. Works through combo routes and comes out on right side. Not big and strong, but isn’t soft either.

WEAKNESSES
Needs advanced instincts and to take coverage chances because closing burst is just marginal. Average long speed in the chase. Can be stacked and big-*boyed on vertical routes creating difficulties playing the ball. Small hands at the end of his short arms. Acceleration from change of direction is below average. Skinny and will always be challenged by size. Ankle*-biter as a tackler.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 4 or 5

NFL COMPARISON Bill Bentley

BOTTOM LINE
A little small for the perimeter, but worth a consideration from the slot. Smith has cover skills and the short area footwork to challenge for a roster spot matching up against full*-time slot receivers. Smith doesn't have great size and doesn't appear to have the speed or twitch that teams look for, but his tape shows a player with enough skill to warrant a look

hagan714 04-30-2016 06:23 AM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
add a few round 5s to the list

Fall into our laps?
Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri 6042 305 5.11 ?
DJ Reader NT Clemson 6025 327 5.33 ?

Reality check
Willie Beavers OT/OG 6045 321 5.28
Mike Thomas, WR, S. Miss 6025 210 4.52
Tyler Ervin KR/RB/WR San Jose St 5097 192 4.41
Cody Core WR Mississippi 6025 205 4.47
Caleb Benenoch OT/OG UCLA 6054 311 4.98

Million dollar question who if any will pick
Rashard Robinson*, CB, LSU 6014 171 4.49


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