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WillSaints81 04-25-2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 700601)
Would you guys be disappointed if we drafted Reggie Ragland in the first round? I saw him mention somewhere that the Saints were one of the teams who have shown the most interest in him. Seems like the kind of unexpected pick we'd make.


He's an ILB not sure if there's a need there.

And what's with the avatar?

WillSaints81 04-26-2016 12:36 AM

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Here's the other half of the WRs and OLs drafted third round or later in 2012 draft.

WR

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._J._Graham

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rishard_Matthews

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Ebert

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVon_Brazill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Coale

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Givens

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan...an_football%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Toon


OL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Jones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Stephenson

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Massie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnnie_Troutman

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis...an_football%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Mondek

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokevious_Watkins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Compton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamar_Holmes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Tiller

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_McCants

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Slowey

ChrisXVI 04-26-2016 04:29 AM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 700616)
He's an ILB not sure if there's a need there.

And what's with the avatar?

Offensive tackle wasn't a need last year. We don't necessarily draft based on need.

ChrisXVI 04-26-2016 09:57 AM

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Scouting Notebook: Matt Miller's Final Team-by-Team Reports, Jared Goff Q&A | Bleacher Report

"In talking to sources on the coaching staff in New Orleans, it's apparent the team wants to get bigger at defensive tackle and beef up against the run. Sheldon Rankins in Round 1 and a wide receiver in Round 2 is the current "best guess" from coaches. I was told by a Saints scout that there was a big debate on Robert Nkemdiche and to not rule him out in Round 1."

K Major 04-26-2016 10:02 AM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 700655)
Scouting Notebook: Matt Miller's Final Team-by-Team Reports, Jared Goff Q&A | Bleacher Report

"In talking to sources on the coaching staff in New Orleans, it's apparent the team wants to get bigger at defensive tackle and beef up against the run. Sheldon Rankins in Round 1 and a wide receiver in Round 2 is the current "best guess" from coaches. I was told by a Saints scout that there was a big debate on Robert Nkemdiche and to not rule him out in Round 1."


You cannot deny the raw talent and ability of Nkemdiche however do we have the staff to "coach him up"?? Since we rolled the dice on Fairley, I wouldn't rule out Nkemdiche or Spence at 12.

Two more days until the draft .. two more days :-D.

Seer1 04-26-2016 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 700657)
You cannot deny the raw talent and ability of Nkemdiche however do we have the staff to "coach him up"??

No

WillSaints81 04-26-2016 04:31 PM

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EJW does not think we will get Rankins. For our sake, I hope he is gone before we pick.

WillSaints81 04-26-2016 04:32 PM

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I'm going to go over the CBs and Ss. Probably will lump them together(that is CB and FS). Since they can play either position.

halloween 65 04-26-2016 05:44 PM

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I would rather have Austin Johnson in the 2nd and take DJ Reader in the 5th to shore up the middle.

WillSaints81 04-26-2016 07:02 PM

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Only did those that could go rounds 1 and 2 out of the big six.

1.
He didn't look all that great against Bama but in many ways especially in conference play Bama is a anomaly. However, he looked great vs Ole Miss so much that he was not even matched up with Treadwell.

2.
He got beat on a big TD, which is concerning. However, we was used as a DE/CB as well. I don't rank him ahead of Hargreaves.

3. It's a bit of a drop-off after this. Jackson's flaw is once in space he can't tackle. Otherwise he had two picks in this clip and that's something we could use. He got beat on a big catch by Wilson earlier but redeemed himself later against the same receiver.

4. This is someone who will not be able to be a outside CB in the NFL. He has to be converted to safety or nickle.

5.
Don't like this at all. But it's better than his teammate. Decent but nothing great.

6.
Just no, he looks out of place for a CB and he lost the one on one battle with Fuller, who I don't see being anything special in the pros. He allowed shorter catches but allowing catches period was our problem last year. He just does not stand out to me at all.

Draft
Round 1-Ramsey
Round 1-Hargreaves
Round 1-Jackson
Round 1 or 2-Apple if converted
Do Not Draft
Round 2-Green
Round 1or 2-Alexander

halloween 65 04-26-2016 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 700603)
There is no way we could have bad luck with all of the RB's this year. Ingram has never been a 25 carry a game guy. Give him 15, Spiller 5, Hightower 5 and Ballard a couple. The Backfield is fine. If we draft a QB it won't be in the 1st 3 rounds. DT/DE, CB and OG, Safety or DT

I would give more reps to Hightower, and (If )Ingram goes down Hightower gets way more reps. Keeping him conditioned might not be a bad thing. I wish we had a sledge hammer to close out games, Brees could rest a little easier late and keeps a D in tight.

jeanpierre 04-26-2016 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 700769)
I would give more reps to Hightower, and (If )Ingram goes down Hightower gets way more reps. Keeping him conditioned might not be a bad thing. I wish we had a sledge hammer to close out games, Brees could rest a little easier late and keeps a D in tight.

And that requires two (2) guards, we've got Lelito who has the opportunity to step up, who's the other guard? Peat?

QBREES9 04-27-2016 12:20 AM

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I'm sure who ever we pick, i will be surprised

jeanpierre 04-27-2016 04:48 AM

2016 NFL Draft
 
Tomorrow is the big day, this would be my wish list for the Saints... :bng:

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DL Chris Jones, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 310 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DE Jonathan Bullard, Florida; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 285 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) CB Kalan Reed, Southern Miss; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 192 lbs.
Alternate Selection: CB Xavien Howard, Baylor; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 201 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112) OL Conner McGovern, Missouri; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 306 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OL Joe Thuney, NC State; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 304 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) NT D.J. Reader, Clemson; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 327 lbs.
Alternate Selection: WR Devon Cajuste, Stanford; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 234 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) OL Spencer Drango, Baylor; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 315 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OL Ted Karras, Illinois; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 307 lbs.

:bng:

jeanpierre 04-27-2016 07:41 AM

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Pivotal player for the Saints in this draft will be RB Ezekiel Elliott; if the buckeye somehow is selected before we pick at twelve, we could see either Jack, Bosa or Buckner fall to us assuming Goff, Wentz go in the top two...

If it's Jack, I trade out and let the demand give us leverage to gain a modest cache in picks...

I'd probably do the same with Bosa, I'm not sold on him either...

Now if it's Buckner, that'd be a tough decision...

And then there's the Tennessee Titans who may want to move up and take Conklin or Stanley to protect Mariota's blind-side, and they're second and third round picks are going to be at the top of those rounds...

Whatever the case, don't let Loomis do the negotiations, he gives it up like Becky Rottincrotch...

jeanpierre 04-27-2016 10:59 AM

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Coaches and scouts from the Cincinnati Bengals, Carolina Panthers, New Orleans Saints, Atlanta Falcons, Chicago Bears, New York Jets, Buffalo Bills, New England Patriots and Denver Broncos were on hand at Florida Atlantic for the workout of German receiver Moritz Boehringer and once again he impressed future employers.
Boehringer ran an unscripted positional workout where teams requested certain routes during the workout and Boehringer obliged. He not only caught the ball well but absorbed the requests and easily ran the route tree asked of him. Just like his initial pro-day on March 31st, Boehringer looked very natural. He had one-on-one interviews with all the teams in attendance beforehand.
Boehringer has five team visits starting this weekend and will be on the road starting tomorrow until April 20th.
Those on hand were also very complimentary of Jacoby Brissett, telling me the North Carolina State quarterback threw the ball well.


Source: http://www.draftinsider.net/blog/

K Major 04-27-2016 11:52 AM

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Fingers crossed its a pass rusher and/or run stuffer at pick #12.

WillSaints81 04-27-2016 01:26 PM

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Carolina could be getting Treadwell or Thomas with their first pick.

If we let them get the german guy I'm going to be pissed. The defensive teams are starting to load up on offense and that is a scary thing.

lee909 04-27-2016 01:31 PM

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Cant see Treadwell being on the board unless they move yp

brees84 04-27-2016 02:45 PM

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brees84 04-27-2016 02:58 PM

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jeanpierre 04-27-2016 03:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 700875)
Fingers crossed its a pass rusher and/or run stuffer at pick #12.

Drop the "or"; we better not waste the No. 12 pick on a two-down linemen...

jeanpierre 04-27-2016 03:18 PM

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The Smartest “Football Guys” In The Building (The Guys That Make The Calls During The Draft)

K Major 04-27-2016 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 700889)


Is Mayock speculating or is this report coming from a Doctor as it relates to MJ knees?

This could definitely shake up the top 10 draft board.

jeanpierre 04-27-2016 03:23 PM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 700894)
Is Mayock speculating or is this report coming from a Doctor as it relates to MJ knees?

This could definitely shake up the top 10 draft board.

This is some dicey stuff because Mayock may have had access to a player's medicals without authorization or consent; if it costs Jack money re: draft slot, there could be some serious ramifications...

WillSaints81 04-27-2016 03:27 PM

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If the saints draft him, it shows they are not in a hurry to contend.

brees84 04-27-2016 03:39 PM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 700894)
Is Mayock speculating or is this report coming from a Doctor as it relates to MJ knees?

This could definitely shake up the top 10 draft board.


I don't know. Durability is a real concern. Some guys want healthy Jack for 15 seasons. Other guys are fine with 7 years from him. These days people retire even if they are healthy and have more years left at the high level. Ray Lewis career? I don't think we will see that very often in the future. I'm fine with Jack #12.

WillSaints81 04-27-2016 03:48 PM

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If he does not play this year?^

K Major 04-27-2016 03:51 PM

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Gotta feeling those that pass on MJ may end up paying the price.

If your doctor isn't all that concerned, select him. Top 5 talent.

WillSaints81 04-27-2016 04:17 PM

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Well if he breaks down this year we better get someone in 2 that can contribute. I'm already scared of the receivers dropping passes.

SmashMouth 04-27-2016 11:33 PM

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2017 NFL Mock Draft - WalterFootball.com

frydaddy 04-27-2016 11:58 PM

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Twas the night before the draft, and throughout the board

Not a poster was posting
Nay, nary a word

Their hopes were all hanging on "finding a good fit"
Whilst visions of trade backs seemed pretty legit


Yeah I don't know about the rest of you, but this has definitely become my new Christmas eve in my adult years. Lol how many of us actually end up with the present we want though, right?

I think Lawson ends up being the pick. With Rankins and Treadwell being pretty good possibilities as well... And I'm still saying I won't be shocked if we take Lynch. Definitely not what I'm hoping for, but if it happens I think I can cope with it... Here's hoping that whoever he is, and whatever he does, he ends up being the best at it..or at least one of em.

lee909 04-28-2016 01:02 AM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 700936)

We aint finishing the season worse than the Bucs

|Mitch| 04-28-2016 02:54 AM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
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Originally Posted by frydaddy (Post 700939)
Lol how many of us actually end up with the present we want though, right?

We always end up with the ugly sweater no one wants... :doh:

ChrisXVI 04-28-2016 04:57 AM

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Happy Draft Day everyone!! By this time tomorrow 80% of us will be disappointed. I'm just happy we'll be able to put the speculation to rest soon.

hagan714 04-28-2016 05:19 AM

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guess Walter has us trading Drew in this years draft.

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 08:48 AM

Re: 2016 NFL Draft
 
It's draft day, should we stand pat, this is where I'm at for our team... :bng:

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OL Jack Conklin, Michigan St; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 308 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) CB Kalan Reed, Southern Miss; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 192 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DT Austin Johnson, Penn St; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 314 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.
Alternate Selection: CB Xavien Howard, Baylor; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 201 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112) OL Conner McGovern, Missouri; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 306 lbs.
Alternate Selection: WR Devon Cajuste, Stanford; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 234 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) LB Nick Vigil, Utah State; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 239 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DT D.J. Reader, Clemson; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 327 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) DT Justin Zimmer, Ferris State (Michigan); Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 305 lbs.
Alternate Selection: WR Moritz Boehringer, Schwäbisch (Germany); Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 227 lbs.

:bng:

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 08:55 AM

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Sure would like to trade some assets as we did last season and pick up another 3-4-5 round pick(s)...

They're at least two mid round prospects who could have an immediate impact for us and develop into ProBowl starters within three years...

lee909 04-28-2016 10:19 AM

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Im still of the opinion trading this years third and next years second to jump back into the 2nd this year and take another DT. There will be first round talent in the first half of the second round this year

jeanpierre 04-28-2016 10:23 AM

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Lee...

You're going to see third round tackles in the fifth round this year, not sure the bang will be worth the buck...

For me it's about investment vs snap count...

Just don't see drafting two-down run stuffers with a first or high second round pick...

For my money, I want a guy who can play three downs, run and pass...


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