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Patience...it will happen...

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T - Minus 6 more days and counting...

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dolphins and tenn have the picks to move up. tamps?

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These are some of the receivers drafted 3rd or later in the 2012 draft. Wikipedia links to describe their current status.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin...de_receiver%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toney_Clemons

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Y._Hilton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_Wylie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juron_Criner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ad...de_receiver%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarius_Wright

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_C...an_football%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_McNutt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Benjamin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Streeter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Hemingway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keshawn_Martin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._J._Cunningham

And olinemen(guards, tackles)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Blake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert...ive_lineman%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Potter

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_M...an_football%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gino_Gradkowski

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebrie_Sanders

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Datko

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Mosley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Jo...ive_lineman%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin...ive_lineman%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Gettis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Washington

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brando...an_football%29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Molk


Out of receivers only Jones(sort of), Hilton, Wright, and Benjamin have done anything. Hemingway never got enough targets(and playing for Alex Smith). And out of the olinemen I think only two here did anything. Mosley and Brooks.

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It's a much deeper defensive linemen class than wide receiver class for sure...

But they'll be a couple of third day guys who could surprise...

It is likely we don't select Treadwell...but you can bet that they'll miss Marques Colston after this season...

Guess Marques failing this year's physical made the Saints face the obviousness that NFL players have age limits...

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Was Colston a difference maker last year?

Anyways, I think we might end up drafting Jackson. Brees wants a playmaker.

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Why did the saints not know that before? They thought Colston was not done?

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Out of this draft class if we pick one I would rather have T. Sharpe he has the most upside of any of them. Should be running wild by mid season. .

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Of course they knew, but they've been in denial about his health; just like they've been in denial about other personnel...

But the fact that he won't be on the sideline in black and gold - well, ****te is going to get real for the offense this year without a comparable talent...

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So we're going to struggle on offense again. Great. I guess when we missed on CJ that was it. If Cooks needs Colston to make him play hard then he's no Antonio Brown.

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I'm frustrated. We better draft a ROTY candidate.

I don't think the NFL Gods will help us until we show we deserve it.

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Will...

...you gotta settle down, man...appreciate you're passion...but give things a chance to shake out first...

even if the Saints don't take Treadwell in the first, they're are some options there that could still be very effective...

...maybe not the monster Treadwell could be in this offense, but still pretty effective...

...and remember, let's see if Jeff Ireland can't continue to be a positive check in the draftroom...

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I never said I only wanted Treadwell. Thomas, maybe, but not Treadwell. Just someone who will not be a bust and will make the catches.

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What about Rashard Higgins in later rounds?

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When is the last time we struggled on offense? The Ditka years?

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Captain Obvious Strikes Again, ESPN's Tripplet Says The Saints Could Take a Cornerback

Damn, Tripp, of course they could take a CB, they could also take a defensive linemen...

Hope ESPN is paying him well as his online editors make him look a douche...

Wish the local paper had been stronger and he could've stayed...

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Well, I've made this point before...

Being No. 1 on offense doesn't translate to the big board that determines the winner...

In fact, say you drop the highest and lowest scoring games to eliminate "flukes" and the Saints were barely No.10 in scoring last season...

We move up and down the field, but we weren't finishing as we have in the past...

And two big reasons for that were that we missed big receivers in Colston and Graham...

That's why I've banged the drum for Treadwell and had for Tyler Higbee...

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Here's the thing with Jack and Smith and players with those type of injuries...

One of the big issues that limited the Saints with Vilma was developing continuity...

With Vilma's bum knee, it was week to week, probably last minute assignments adjustments whether he played or not...

That is an unnecessary burden, strain, stress on a defensive unit as a whole...

I'd rather have a bunch of high-effort, average athletes who are going to man up and play and develop team chemistry than have a weekly update on whether one player will be able to play or not...

Do we really need another thread on one player about how he and his (fill-in-the-black) is feeling?!?

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My biggest fear in this draft is that D.A. starts us drafting 4-3 personnel and we're back to the see-saw of square pegs and round holes and D.A. is gone in another season or two...

...never developing one system or another...

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I'm not sold on Allen either. He wasn't a DC in 2009. And the 4-3 or 3-4 mixing could be a problem. We're supposed to go back to a 4-3 but who knows.

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DA can't be any worse than RR; just sayin' In fact; defense actually improved after RR was shown the door last year

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Mitch I'm not saying RR was better than DA; I'm smh re: bringing in a defensive coordinator who's likely not to use personnel already on the roster who are a better fit for a different front than one he prefers...

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Well, Draft Week is upon us and this is my Saints Fan Big Board... :bng:

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DL Chris Jones, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 310 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) CB Kalan Reed, Southern Miss; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 192 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DE Jonathan Bullard, Florida; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 285 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.
Alternate Selection: WR Devon Cajuste, Stanford; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 234 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112) OL Conner McGovern, Missouri; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 306 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OL Joe Thuney, NC State; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 304 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) NT D.J. Reader, Clemson; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 327 lbs.
Alternate Selection: QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 218 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) OL Spencer Drango, Baylor; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 315 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OL Ted Karras, Illinois; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 307 lbs.

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I think I'm just about 100% on board with those picks JP. That would be as close to perfect as we could get.

I have heard some chatter lately (from Mike Triplett I think) about the Saints doing something completely out of the ordinary and looking to trade down. Tony Pauline also mentioned it a few weeks ago saying we had interest in moving down and taking Kamalei Correa later in the first.

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I look at Oakland and judge their drafts under DA. not bad not to bad at all. He is a bit of a gambler I have to admit. His FA moves one year was his death sentence. I hope he learned his lesson.

He proved to be one thing Rob was not. A coach involved on the field and one that makes changes on the fly to adapt to the flow of a game. that alone is enough in my book to sit back and watch the game unfold vs yelling at the TV and wanting to slap Rob to wake him up as to what is happening on the field.

DA is a hands on coach. Rob was not

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been kicking Reed around a bit.

Man oh man the 4th and 5th rounds have some interesting prospects in them. laundry list in those rounds just keeps growing. solid potential like I have not seen in a long time that actual fill our team needs wish list.

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check this kid out

Darius Jackson RB Eastern Michigan 6000 220 4.40
20+ catches the past two year and plays in a pro set offense
I know RB is not high on the needs list but

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I think RB is a need
Ingram cant get through a seaso healthy
The less said about the stupid money spent om the injury case that is Spiller the better. The other two back Hightower hasnt played 16 games in years and Ballard hasnt played 16 games since 2012. Thats alot of physio/hot tub time between them.

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Daniel Jeremiah has us taking Paxton Lynch in his newest mock. Could Payton be thinking the same thing? Could explain the no Brees restructure...

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He would have big shoes to fill.

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well it's coming sooner rather than later; Drew only has a few more years at best

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In all honesty, I can see it happening. Don't want it to, not a bit.. but I can remove my fan bias enough to see some logic in it. And really, if we were to draft a QB in the first he would be the one I'd feel best about. Not sold on Goff or Wentz, and I'm not totally sold on Lynch either.. But he has come a long way in a short time in terms of the work he's done to prepare for the transition from college to the pros. He has all the physical tools and attributes you'd like, plus a lot of natural athleticism. If his dedication to his craft continues like this then I'd say give him 2-3 years and he could become a really good pro. Obviously we would all prefer a day one starter with our first pick, but it would be a solid investment in the future.. in fact if it stops all the "life after Brees" type threads it might be worth it on that alone!

Seriously though, prepare yourselves people. If he's sitting there at 12, have yourself a strong drink with a couple of muscle relaxers crushed up in it on standby and just know that this too shall pass...

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I believe the transition from Drew will have to be a RB not qb. Because we won't get a qb that will do what Drew has done, you better have a RB to carry the team. If Deuce had a defense in his era, saints are playoff teams.

Thing is Sean Payton is likely here beyond Drew so he will try to find the next big qb. But now now.

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Would you guys be disappointed if we drafted Reggie Ragland in the first round? I saw him mention somewhere that the Saints were one of the teams who have shown the most interest in him. Seems like the kind of unexpected pick we'd make.

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There is no way we could have bad luck with all of the RB's this year. Ingram has never been a 25 carry a game guy. Give him 15, Spiller 5, Hightower 5 and Ballard a couple. The Backfield is fine. If we draft a QB it won't be in the 1st 3 rounds. DT/DE, CB and OG, Safety or DT

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Best thing the Saints can do is wait till the end of the season; if Brees finishes breaking down to injury as he did last year, Saints gain some leverage...

This last deal is gonna be ugly with Brees...And I wouldn't give guaranteed money past next season...

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He's an ILB. Do we have a need there?