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First pick would go with Peat. leave me asking what kind of offense are we running?
next 3 picks are way too risky and pretty much a big reach in my opinion. By a complete round. draft a 3rd in the 2nd? and so on.

but it does look like a saints draft

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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 699457) Charlie Walter Football

This not so bad.
Shaq is top 5 for safe gamble picks but with the Rams trade and the team now loaded with picks right behind us I can see more leap frogging up and down round 1 yet to come. Just hope we are in the mix and a trade down is possible and grab some additional picks.

Austin Johnson has always been a fav. he is the next Jarren Reed at DT his game speed and effort make the combine a mute point. Both are under valued, more upside as pass rushers than they are given credit for. Johnson has a clean rap sheet also unlike Reed who has had a few issues. He is as safe a pick in the 2nd as you can find.

Cody Whitehair in the 3rd? some one is really missing the boat. better yet standing at the dock a day late with this one

Joe Dahl is a player that if he drops into your lap in the 5th then make the move. He is not an over reach for player in my book. not bad but in the fourth they will be better options on the board.

He reminds me of Vic Beasley, under sized, fast but not very flexible. He leaves a lot to be desired against the run and dropping into coverage. He is a one trick pony with issues.

Shaq Lawson hands down over this kid. His interviews have to be mind blowing for me to even consider him in the 3rd.

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With less than 2 weeks until draft, it's no telling who the Saints will select at #12.

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NFL Draft: Medical re-checks confirm concern for Myles Jack, Jaylon Smith - CBSSports.com


As Deuce McAllister said, we can't afford to "redshirt" anyone...

Take 'em off the draft board, move on...

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Until the Saints pass and he is starter on another team then all the "I knew we should've..............(there's one of those words again)

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I'm gonna wait till after the draft to predict who we pick. Its too soon right now.

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Eh, i dont totally agree with that statement. I definitely wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket for the Saints this year, so adding Jaylon Smith(personal favorite of mine) would not not be something we couldn't "afford" to do. Especially with what Ed Werder reported..."teams are unsure when he'll see the field, but they believe he'll have a long NFL career" i would NOT pass up the opportunity to get a franchise player like i see in Jaylon Smith if thats the case. Jaylon at WILL, Anthony at SAM & Laurinaitis at MIKE next year would be lovely. Thats just my opinion.

With that said, i'd love to trade back in the first, even out of the first round to gain additional picks in the 2nd & 3rd & a 1st next year. Thats really where the meat of the draft is. I dont consider talent at 12 to be that much greater than talent at the end of the 2nd/early 3rd.

Im thinking Chess not checkers. Saints still have holes & the schedule isn't going to be a cake walk.

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The saints have a history of not drafting players with questionable medicals

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If the Saints FO feel confident that Jaylon will make a full recovery, I'd say he is still on our draft board. He is that special.

This team is anemic on defense and unfortunately we aren't close to sniffing a championship this season. If he is still on the board by round 3 (highly unlikely he is still here), draft him.

I keep hearing that the draft is all about the future, no :rolleyes:?

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Ronald Powell. He tore his ACL twice while at Florida, however we still drafted him.

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true enough but as a rule of thumb it is rare the saints make the pick. it will be interesting to see how this all works out for the best LB in the draft. who will role the dice and when?

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He'll probably end up on a squad with a solid defensive roster ... Arizona, Seattle, Denver or a team with a ton of draft picks like the Titans (6 picks within the first 3 rounds).

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We aren't close to sniffing a championship? Well I believe if GB goes to the sb next year then the saints will have to wait until 2019(Packers, Cowboys or Giants, Seahawks a division pattern that has gone on since 2004). Can Brees still play then?

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Getting So Closer...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DL Chris Jones, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 310 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) NT Austin Johnson, Penn St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 314 lbs.
Alternate Selection: Evaluate values that may have fallen, trade back, acquire more picks

R3, S15 (Pick 78) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.
Alternate Selection: WR Keyarris Garrett, Tulsa; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 220 lbs

R4, S14 (Pick 112) CB Kalan Reed, Southern Miss; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 192 lbs.
Alternate Selection: LB Nick Vigil, Utah State ; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 239 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) OL Joe Thuney, NC State; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 304 lbs.
Alternate Selection: NT D.J. Reader, Clemson; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 327 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) OL Jordan Rigsbee, California ; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 305 lbs.
Alternate Selection: K Jaden Oberkrum, TCU; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 183 lbs.

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While I don't always drink the PFF cool aid, this article does a very good job explaining defensive line alignment and assignments in the FBS and NFL game today...

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ckle-position/

Just throwing top ranked players at the first two rounds by default won't guarantee success or a turnaround in our defensive line play...

Don't agree that Sheldon Rankins will have the success in the NFL as he has flashed at Louisville or at the offseason draft process, because his limited size...

Having the right players in the right assignments with the right skill set should be paramount, and this article illustrates that point and can help give a better understanding going into the draft...

The article may be restricted to membership, but it's a very good read...

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ckle-position/

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While I have issues with the top of the draft I really like the quality and depth of players the rest of the way. I can not remember having short lists so long for rounds 4 to 7 ever. This draft does not fall of the deep end. Plenty of extremely good mid and late round talent to had.

Gotta get more late round pick short list of players I still have as 7/UDFA

Quinton Jefferson DT/DE Maryland 6040 289 4.95
Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6021 325 5.10
Juston Burris FS/SS/CB /NC STATE 6002 212
Tevin Carter S Utah 6012 2221
Mike Jordan, CB/FS, Missouri Western 6006 200 4.50
Caleb Benenoch OT/OG UCLA 6054 311 4.98
Trevor Davis, WR California 6011 188 4.42
Eddie Yarbrough OLB/ILB/DE Wyoming 6030 251 4.70
Clayton Fejedelem S Illinios 6000 205 4.53
Stephen Weatherly DE/OLB Vanderbilt 6043 267 4.61
Dean Lowery DE NW 6056 296 4.87
Jonah Austin, G/OT, Nicholls State 6052 330 5.35
Brad Craddock K Maryland 6003 192 4.88
Eric Rawls, DB, Kentucky State 6020 195 4.41
Peter Mortll P Minnesota 6012 192 4.94
Ryker Mathews OT BYU 6052 320 5.26
Mekale McKay WR Cicinatti 6042 195 4.55
Montese Overton OLB/ILB East Carolina 6015 221 4.65

UDFA look to be the best crop we have seen in years.

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True, yet we have no problem picking up free agents w questionable medicals and paying them big &&

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Myles Jack - medical concerns even after the rechecks. still no running appears to be an issue also. so

1. Los Angeles Rams (7-9) - Jared Goff - home town sell them tickets pick
2. Cleveland Browns (3-13) - Joey Bosa - another home town ticket selling pick
3. San Diego Chargers (4-12) - Laremy Tunsil
4. Dallas Cowboys (4-12) - Jalen Ramsey
5. Jacksonville Jaguars (5-11) - DeForest Buckner

Philadelphia trade with Baltimore -

6. Philadelphia Eagles (7-9) - Carson Wentz
7. San Francisco 49ers (5-11) - Ronnie Stanley
8. Baltimore Ravens (5-11) - Vernon Hargreaves III
9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-10) - Sheldon Rankins
10. New York Giants (6-10) - Ezekiel Elliott
11. Chicago Bears (6-10) - Shaq Lawson

12. New Orleans Saints (7-9) - still thing the saints will get trade down offer from teams wanting to jump ahead of Miami who will almost definitely with great probability go CB.

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Now Jeanpierre, how much did you pay him to say that???

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Getting Oh So Closer... :bng:

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DL Chris Jones, Mississippi St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 310 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DL Austin Johnson, Penn St.; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 314 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) LG Conner McGovern, Missouri; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 306 lbs.
Alternate Selection: LB Nick Vigil, Utah State ; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 239 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112) CB Kalan Reed, Southern Miss; Height: 5’ 11”; Weight: 192 lbs.
Alternate Selection: WR Keyarris Garrett, Tulsa; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 220 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) NT D.J. Reader, Clemson; Height: 6’ 3”; Weight: 327 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OL Joe Thuney, NC State; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 304 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) OL Jordan Rigsbee, California ; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 305 lbs.
Alternate Selection: K Jaden Oberkrum, TCU; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 183 lbs.

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Walter Football NFL Draft Rumors

What is interesting is that of the top half teams listed on this page, the Saints have only three rumors listed...less than half of any other team...

...talk about playing it close to the vest...

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Noah Spence or Big Boy Billings @ #12.

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I don't get all the kettle clanging for Noah Spence or any edge rusher...

We just drafted Kikaha and Tull last season; plus you've got Edebali left on the bench...

Give 'em a chance or trade 'em for something that fits Dennis Allen's (Gregg Williams) stale 4-3 front...

Was hoping we might finally see a 3-4 front when Payton mentioned Kikaha & Co. focused more rushing from the edge...

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I highly doubt the Saints FO will draft either player, however I just want to throw those two names out there to stir the pot on a Monday morning ;).

But at the end of the day, I want a D lineman in the trenches and/or pass rusher (see Carolina).

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If no one falls into our laps at 12
1 Laremy Tunsil
2 Jalen Ramsey
3 Joey Bosa
4 Jared Goff
5 DeForest Buckner
6 Carson Wentz
7 Ezekiel Elliott
8 Ronnie Stanley
9 Shaq Lawson
10 Laquon Treadwell

Sorry JP Treadwell going to the giants makes a ton of sense to me.

Reaching for a player to fill a need makes makes no sense to me at 12. Even a DT. Not in this draft. Not if you can additional picks. Which in this draft would be huge IMO.

Key is not to drop below 17. Atlanta Falcons, unless some one is really ready to over pay.

At 16 the saints can fill the areas of need with good players still on the board, ie DT and WR.

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So ... who are your selections at DT and/or WR in this scenario?

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Rumor is that the Titans are trying to trade back up from 15...

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JP -

If you get a chance, check out Jeremiah & Bucky Brooks (Stock Up, Stock Down) Podcast from 4/13. J is claiming that Tread could actually be a day two selection based on his talks with various NFL team scouts/staff :rolleyes:.

I thought that was interesting.

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Hagan...that's been my concern, San Fran or G'nats...

I'd be okay if Treadwell is gone when we select; but I'd be pissed if we took a two down defensive lineman and Treadwell was still there...

If I'm taking a first rounder, he better be seeing maximum snaps...

Smokescreen, and if Treadwell did fall to the second round, some team is getting Christmas in April...

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Jatavis Brown OLB, Akron

Height: 5'11"
Weight: 222 lbs
40 Yard Dash: 4.47 seconds

Jatavis Brown, OLB, Akron, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

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Robert Nkemdiche wants to buy a pet panther after signing rookie contract - CBSSports.com

Okay, so legit front offices can go ahead and take his name off their draft boards and the FBI can open a case file on illegal importation, poaching of an endangered sub-species; cue the late night Kaley Cuoco (she's so hot) Humane Society commercials...

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The more Robert talks the more Chris Jones DT/DE Mississippi St looks better and better. I say that comment has dropped Robert even further and Chris is now a mid round 2 prospect. maybe Chris should buy him the food when he gets drafted in thanks for Roberts stupidity.

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Latest "Mock" Draft report from Charlie and Walts ...

Mods - please delete if this is a repeat post.

walterfootball.com
Rd. 1, Pk. 12 Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State

Many expect the Saints to go defense here, and they very well could. However, it shouldn't stun anyone if New Orleans selects an offensive lineman like Jack Conklin. The team has a major whole in the inside of the blocking unit, which is problematic because the Saints greatly value interior blocking.

Rd. 2, Pk. 16 Andrew Billings, DT/NT, Baylor

We all know how bad New Orleans' secondary is, but part of the problem is that the team hasn't gotten any sort of push up front. It's especially dire at defensive tackle, where 80-year-old Kevin Williams was the team's best player last year. Something absolutely needs to be done about that.

Rd. 3, Pk. 15 Jason Fanaika, DE, Utah

The Saints can continue to upgrade their horrible defensive line, as they really don't have any edge rushers of note after Cameron Jordan. In a division comprised of Cam Newton, Matt Ryan and Jameis Winston, New Orleans will have to improve its ability to get to the quarterback.

Rd. 4, Pk. 14 Deiondre' Hall, CB, Northern Iowa

The Saints have to bolster their secondary. Knowing Brandon Browner, he'll still be penalized even though he's not on the team.

Rd. 5, Pk. 13 Connor Wujciak, DT, Boston College

It shouldn't be surprising if the Saints double up at defensive tackle in the 2016 NFL Draft, considering their dire need at the position.

Charlies
Rd. 1, Pk. 12 Shaq Lawson, DE/3-4OLB, Clemson
image: http://walterfootball.com/college/Clemson_logo.gif


The Saints cut Junior Galette and still need a replacement. Lawson could form a dangerous pass rush with Cam Jordan and Hau'Oli Kikaha.

While teams have told me they gave Lawson a second-day grade, in speaking with a variety of teams they think that Lawson could be a mid- to late first-rounder.

Rd. 2, Pk. 16 Austin Johnson, DT/3-4DE/NT, Penn State

The 6-foot-4, 314-pounder produced a quality season for Penn State in 2015. Johnson was a tough defender at the point of attack with 78 tackles, 15 tackles for a loss and 6.5 sacks. At the Senior Bowl, Johnson had a quality week, though he wasn't overly impressive.

Rd. 3, Pk. 15 Cody Whitehair, G, Kansas State

Whitehair (6-3, 300) played left tackle for the Wildcats, but he should move to guard in the NFL. Oklahoma State defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah illustrated that. Whitehair also could use more power for the next level, but he is a good technician who is a reliable blocker.

Rd. 4, Pk. 14 Joe Dahl, G/OT, Washington State

Dahl broke into the lineup as a sophomore starter at guard, but he played left tackle for Washington State in his final two seasons. In the Cougars' offense, Dahl got a lot of preparation for blocking in pass protection on the edge.

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I could live with those two picks (Conklin and Big Boy Billings) if it happens next week.

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I would love either one of those drafts K Major. Can you imagine landing Billings in the 2nd round?!

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I'm intrigued by Noah Spence.

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Rez,
Here is a recent read on Spence. DE Noah Spence 'felt good' about New Orleans Saints visit last week | NOLA.com

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Solid looking Pro prospect. I think MJ is LOADED with talent & I think he will be a special NFL player. He is on track to be a "full go" by training camp.

Could he slip a few spots? Perhaps but a lot of teams within the top 10 are hoping he falls to them ;).

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DE Noah Spence? please no. he is a carbon copy of Jr on and off the field.

give me the one year wonder Shaq Lawson over him all day long. solid against the run and still learning to pass rush.

Noah can wide all game long and get shoved out of the play 90% of the time just like tiny little Jr.

just say no to one trick ponies.