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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by brees84 https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...87230550327297 What this workout tells me is that the Saints will stick to the 3-4 this year. Fairley will be the starting Nose. It appears we're looking at players who can play linebacker, DE or Safety....

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Old 03-21-2016, 07:43 AM   #1
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What this workout tells me is that the Saints will stick to the 3-4 this year. Fairley will be the starting Nose. It appears we're looking at players who can play linebacker, DE or Safety.
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII View Post
What this workout tells me is that the Saints will stick to the 3-4 this year. Fairley will be the starting Nose. It appears we're looking at players who can play linebacker, DE or Safety.
Look, as much as I'd love to move to a true 3-4 base (as we've drafted and acquired players to do just that), we haven't been running a 3-4 and likely will not under Dennis Allen, a Gregg Williams trained defensive coach...

And the so-called 4-3 under hasn't been run since we cut loose Galette...

And I'd be very disappointed if we took Jenkins after his Combine and Pro Day performances that high in the draft...

Aside from WR Laquon Treadwell, I'd rather us take Jarran Reed or reach ever so slightly in my book for La Tech's Vernon Butler or reach just a tad more for Clemson DE Kevin Dodd in the first...

Billings, Rankins, Clark, omg especially Clark all will end up being Sedrick Ellis 2.0 - NFThanks...

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII View Post
What this workout tells me is that the Saints will stick to the 3-4 this year. Fairley will be the starting Nose. It appears we're looking at players who can play linebacker, DE or Safety.
Fairley as a NT??
That would be a fish out of water.

Fairley is visiting with the Patriots so I doubt we'll sign the guy now.
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Old 03-21-2016, 10:37 AM   #4
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Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

DA is a Williams disciple, didn't know that one. Then that settles it, 4-3 defense. Hopefully he learned how to blitz from GW too
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Old 03-21-2016, 11:18 AM   #5
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Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

Jordan Jenkins? is the first thing I would ask, were did you go for half a year? nagging groin injury? I am not to sure I am buying into that 100%. I always thought he was a bit over hyped.

I agree now I am confused again! 34 or 43? which are we?
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Side note - I really like Su'a Cravens from SC. Scouts claim he is a safety however he plays like a linebacker.
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Side note - I really like Su'a Cravens from SC. Scouts claim he is a safety however he plays like a linebacker.
I just can't get behind him because of where he played. We already got burned by Ellis. The USC picks have not turned out well for us in the past.
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Old 03-21-2016, 09:59 PM   #8
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Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

Giving some details on my selections , along with alternate picks...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.*
• Treadwell is the best wide receiver, playmaker to come out of the college ranks since Julio Jones…
• He’s a big, physical receiver with elite hands and catch radius, often winning contested passes...
• Started immediately as a national top recruit; has competed and been successful against many of the top SEC defensive backs, many now in the NFL…
• Only criticism is his straight-line speed isn’t elite though he's progressed from injury two seasons ago…
• It is worth noting that Jerry Rice, Tim Brown and Michael Irving did not have great straight line speed...
• Terrific competitor and skilled downfield blocker; respected teammate and locker room leader...
• By adding Treadwell to the Saints wide receiver corps, you add the best possible candidate to not only replace Colston's reliable receiving skills, but equally important, his leadership and high character…
• Having Treadwell, Cooks and Snead instantly makes the WR corps among the elite in the NFL...
Alternate Selection: DL Jarran Reed, Alabama; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 308 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) DB Xavien Howard, Baylor; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 200 lbs.
• Now, the Saints have sought a big, physical cornerback for versatility in match-ups, failing the past two years...
• SJB lacked experience and the temperament for the position and Brandon Browner had seen better days...
• Xavien Howard is an ideal candidate who surprised by coming out as an underclassman and probably would be a first rounder with another season…
• Xavien's a big, physical CB with fluid hips, good change of direction (especially for his size), a violent tackler, and has great hands, ball skills.
• Though his straightline 40 yd dash was average, his shuttle drills, and change of direction skills were at the top of this draft class…
• With Keenan Lewis now on the wrong side of 30 and beginning to break down, Delvin Breaux needs a complement…
• Howard’s size and skills would also lend to versatility and allowing him to also play safety…
Alternate Selection: DE Carl Nassib, Penn State; Height: 6' 7"; Weight: 278 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.
• Kaufusi has the prototypical size, weight, arm length and hand size you want in a multi-front LDE…
• Athlete that started out as a TE, Bronson, a coach’s son (Father was his position coach) moved to DE…
• Productive history; 2015: 64 tackles, 20 tackles for loss, 11 sacks, one interception and three forced fumbles; 2014: 43 tackles, 11.5 tackles for loss, five passes broken up and seven sacks while playing injured; 2013: 37 tackles, seven tackles for loss, four sacks, one interception and a forced fumble.
• Kaufusi is an advanced project who with some pro-coaching can improve by disengaging blocks quicker and adding variation to his pass rush portfolio …
Alternate Selection: FS Darian Thompson, Boise State; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 208 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112) TE Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 249 lbs.
• Higbee has a terrific blend of height, arm length (33.25 in) and hand size (10.25 in)…
• Converted Wide Receiver who is still able to add quality bulk to his frame…
• Missed four games with knee sprain; came back early for conference championship, re-aggravating injury missing senior game, combine…
• Despite abbreviated season caught 38 receptions for 563 receiving yards and eight (8) touchdowns…
• As a receiver, he’s got the straight line speed to beat linebackers, safeties; good at find the soft zones in the passing game, great catch radius and ability to snatch ball away from body…
• Though a work in progress, Higbee is probably the better of the blocking tight ends in the 2016 draft class…
• Perfect time, place to take this tight end to develop behind recently signed veterans; as he develops, would allow the Saints to avoid escalating cap numbers of vet contracts…
Alternate Selection: OG Conner McGovern, Missouri; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 308 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) LB Nick Vigil, Utah State ; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 239 lbs.
• Two-time conference first team selection; lead his team with tackles...
• Surprised at combine leading linebacking group in cone and shuttle drills…
• Excellent instincts, ball location, read/react times and plays all out willing to engage larger blockers...
• Good first step in dropping back in coverage, having speed, quickness, anticipation to maintain solid coverage…
• Very good at navigating through crowds to generate an impact play; plays with great game speed…
• Still needs to add size, bulk to his frame, but can come in as a 3rd down back immediately and special teamer…
• Brother was signed as an UDFA at Miami and started two games by end of last season…
Alternate Selection: DT Matt Ionnadis, Temple; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 308 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) OG Jordan Rigsbee, California ; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 305 lbs.
• Plays with a nasty disposition, violent hands that jolts defenders, plays through the whistle…
• Not a polished pass blocker, but he has the athleticism and tenacity to recover and keep fighting…
• Rigsbee’s an athletic blocker, very good at getting out on screen plays and in pulling on run plays…
• Rigsbee has started at four different positions for Cal; his most natural position is left guard...
Alternate Selection: NT Chris Mayes, Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 338 lbs.

And it all continues to come together...

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Old 03-26-2016, 04:53 AM   #9
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Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

Okay, probably getting a little ahead, but with having Fairley under contract soon (e.g. initially I had Malik Jackson signing in mind)...

The flexibility of the signing makes the draft I had in mind still viable and at the end of the day, we roll with Coach Payton and offense...


R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.*
Alternate Selection: DL Vernon Butler, LaTech; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 323 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) DB Xavien Howard, Baylor; Height: 6’ 1”; Weight: 200 lbs.
Alternate Selection: FS Darian Thompson, Boise State; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 208 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DE Carl Nassib, Penn State; Height: 6' 7"; Weight: 278 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112) TE Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 249 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OG Conner McGovern, Missouri; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 308 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) LB Nick Vigil, Utah State ; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 239 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OG Isaac Seumalo, Oregon St.; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 303 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) OG Jordan Rigsbee, California ; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 305 lbs.
Alternate Selection: NT Chris Mayes, Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 338 lbs.

Have details on my picks > 2016 NFL Mock Draft by Jeanpierre

And it all continues to come together...

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Old 03-30-2016, 09:20 AM   #10
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Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

Fairley, now under contract (i.e. initially had Malik Jackson signing in mind), okay, let's go...

The flexibility of the signing makes the draft I had in mind still viable and at the end of the day, we roll with Coach Payton and offense...


R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.*
Alternate Selection: DL Vernon Butler, LaTech; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 323 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 47) DB Xavien Howard, Baylor; Height: 6’ 0”; Weight: 200 lbs.
Alternate Selection: DB Artie Burns, Miami; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 195 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 78) TE Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 249 lbs.
Alternate Selection: FS Darian Thompson, Boise State; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 208 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 112) DE Bronson Kaufusi, Brigham Young; Height: 6’ 6”; Weight: 285 lbs.
Alternate Selection: NT D.J. Reader, Clemson; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 327 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 152) LB Nick Vigil, Utah State ; Height: 6’ 2”; Weight: 239 lbs.
Alternate Selection: WR Devon Cajuste, Stanford; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 234 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 187*) TRADED this pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann (2015, R5, S31, Pick 167)

R7, S16 (Pick 237) OG Jordan Rigsbee, California ; Height: 6’ 4”; Weight: 305 lbs.
Alternate Selection: OG Ted Karras, Illinois; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 308 lbs.

Have details on my picks > 2016 NFL Mock Draft by Jeanpierre

And it all continues to come together...

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