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5 to 1 Forte will be a PAT.

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With respect to Lorig, I get what your saying Fin, but how they figured his game would translate from the Bucs offense to our offense is where I'd have questions and what the team's thoughts were...

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True, but at least on paper he was an upgrade over Jeb.

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Yep, and Tampa fans weren't happy about losing him. He just didn't work out here.

Like you said, on paper, it looked like a really good move. He had Dave Thomas upside.

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For the Browns to let him walk despite his popularity with a hostile fan-base; and now possibly being released by Miami - that just creates more questions than answers...

...especially with limited cap space...

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The major hurdle to signing those Denver players is that Chicago has their former head coach and over $50 million in cap space. Plus, Chicago has lots of needs on defense. I don't know if they liked playing for John Fox but it seems like an obvious destination if Denver can't retain them.

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Immediate upgrade. Not sure what dollars he will command but you win with NT's like this guy in the trenches.

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Late round pick for Josh Gordon. Give him incentive based contract. Worth the risk.

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I'd snatch him & wouldn't look back. Take it a step further ... maybe a conditional pick? This is a game changing WR with speed and size.

This young stud is a BEAST.

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Brees better restructure.

We've already cut a few including Evans and Hawthorne.

I would like to get these guys:

Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, Giants

Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, Jets

Tamba Hali, OLB, Chiefs

but I would not overpay for any of them.

I would keep these guys at cut rates only:

Browner, Byrd, Spiller, Cadet, Wilson and Flynn

I would let all Free agents go otherwise. We need a backup for Brees. I would sign Ostweiler or get a QB high in the draft maybe at 12 to replace him in the next 2 years.

I might resign Watson as a backup along with Michael Hoomanawanui but both would take big pay cuts and we would need a better than average Tight End in Free Agency to take as over number one.

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Akiem Hicks is listed as New England's top free agent???

NT Damon Harrison - most under rated NT in the NFL buy still the cost?
DT Nick Fairley - he has kept his nose
CB Casey Hayward - always loved this kids game

realstic?

WLB Tahir Whitehead
WLB Nigel Bradham - pondering this one. his production was down last year
WLB Sean Weatherspoon - veteran minimum?
SS Isa Abdul-Quddus

TE Coby Fleener or Dwayne Allen
OG/OC Stefen Wisniewski

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Cam Jordan's contract been reworked to open $4.8ml in cap

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I think the front office is going after somebody big. Opening up so good money once they redo Brees.

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There's also the possibility of signing Armstead now to a contract extension...

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Jared Cook?

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Damn, did the Rams cut him too?

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Yes. Never had a chance in STL. Awful offense overall (coaches, QBs..)

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Agreed. A really good TE on some bad teams.

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Free Agency...

(1) NT Damon Harrison (NYJ), William Penn (Iowa); Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 350 lbs.

(2) DE Malik Jackson (DEN), Tennessee; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 290 lbs.

(3) RG J.R. Sweezy (SEA), NC State; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

(4) LG Tim Lelito (NO), Grand Valley St; 6' 4"; Weight: 315 lbs.

(5) TE Ben Watson (NO), Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 255 lbs.


And it all starts to come together... :bng:

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Free Agency...

(1) NT Damon Harrison (NYJ), William Penn (Iowa); Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 350 lbs.

Likely to command around $5mil/year

Source: Jets NT Damon Harrison says 'all hopes' point to a return - New York Jets Blog- ESPN

(2) DE Malik Jackson (DEN), Tennessee; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 290 lbs.

Has suggested coming to the Saints?!? :bng:

Strategy for the Saints' Pursuit of Malik Jackson?: Pay the Man - New Orleans Saints - Pro Football Spot

(3) RG J.R. Sweezy (SEA), NC State; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

Could cost approximately 5 mil/year with few Guard options and a demand for the position (Wished we'd signed Boling last season instead of Browner)...

"Plenty of buzz" around J.R. Sweezy in free agency, per report - Field Gulls

(4) LG Tim Lelito (NO), Grand Valley St; 6' 4"; Weight: 315 lbs.


(5) TE Ben Watson (NO), Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 255 lbs.


And it all starts to come together... :bng:

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Clog up that middle and things get better off the edge. I'm really hoping the Saints front office is looking hard at this guy.

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I haven't seen any talk about maybe trying to bring back Tyrunn Walker. Everyone seemed to agree that letting him go was a mistake and he'd fill a need for cheap.

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Walker was great until two seattle players broke his leg. Disgusting cheapshot...

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Panthers could release Charles Johnson.

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True... I forgot about that. Hopefully his recovery is going well and he'll be able to be the player he was pre-injury.

I'd also love to bring back Glenn Foster. I don't know why we cut the cord so quickly on him either.

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He was a solid contributor however GF just can't stay healthy.

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Tyrunn Walker is not coming back for backup pay and his injury makes him a risk to sign as a starter...

I'd rather take the risk and sign Long...

In fact, I'd rather sign Malick Jackson...

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Estimated NFL Cap Space

TEAM	CAP SPACE
Jacksonville Jaguars	$78,928,389
Oakland Raiders	$74,029,771
Chicago Bears	$60,325,551
New York Giants	$58,177,000
San Francisco 49ers	$56,773,437
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	$53,802,770
Tennessee Titans	$47,721,283
Cleveland Browns	$38,573,644
Cincinnati Bengals	$38,415,537
Los Angeles Rams	$38,042,136
Kansas City Chiefs	$32,852,807
San Diego Chargers	$31,965,046
Philadelphia Eagles	$31,352,592
Houston Texans	$29,121,842
Indianapolis Colts	$25,616,989
Detroit Lions	$24,605,901
Minnesota Vikings	$24,512,954
Seattle Seahawks	$23,267,781
Arizona Cardinals	$22,755,982
Carolina Panthers	$20,489,126
Green Bay Packers	$20,294,870
Atlanta Falcons	$19,450,163
New York Jets	$15,774,802
Dallas Cowboys	$14,219,385
Pittsburgh Steelers	$14,050,513
Denver Broncos	$12,976,090
Miami Dolphins	$12,874,523
Washington Redskins	$10,000,954
Baltimore Ravens	$9,238,990
New England Patriots	$8,717,805
New Orleans Saints	$6,285,556
Buffalo Bills	-$4,366,762

*Based on projected $154M cap

Source: How $1 billion in cap space could alter NFL free agency - NFL Nation- ESPN

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Assuming the Saints FO pass on Trevethian &/or Marshall, what do you think about LB Nigel Bradham ? Could be a WILL in a 4-3 & he is young & quick.

Thoughts?

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Believe the front office plan is (a) re-sign Dannell Ellerbe (done); and (b) draft a WLB (My Mock has us taking Wisconsin's Schobel) to learn/backup until he overtakes Ellerbe...

With limited cap space and in need of starters on the defensive line and offensive guards, just don't see us signing another WLBer...

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#3 offense in the NFL is huge.
knowing the saints will be cap rich in 2017 helps a ton too

all i can see is young player hungry and wanting a shot to start signing a short term contract with insensitive. The saints are in a good spot to appeal to defensive players like this. The defense is wide open especially at WLB.

That is why I keep looking at
Tahir Whitehead LB - Detroit Lions
Mark Barron, LB - Los Angeles Rams

Or wise old vets that are not done yet
Robert Ayers, DE - New York Giants signed a 2/$3,750,000.


OG has opens available
Mike Harris, G - Minnesota Vikings
Is interesting. bounced inside to OG after most being a not so good at OT. years 2 at OG could be ?????

Brandon Boykin, CB - Pittsburgh Steelers for the slot???

Patrick Robinson, CB - San Diego Chargers? nah too much

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Mark is a very intriguing guy who filled in quite nicely for Olgetree (injured) on that weak side. Also noticed him in the "safety in the box" type role.

Big hitter too.

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Free Agency...

(1) NT Damon Harrison (NYJ), William Penn (Iowa); Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 350 lbs.

Likely to command around $5mil/year

Source: NFL rumors roundup - NFL Rumors- ESPN

(2) DE Malik Jackson (DEN), Tennessee; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 290 lbs.

Likely to command around $10mil/year

NFL rumors roundup - NFL Rumors- ESPN

(3) RG J.R. Sweezy (SEA), NC State; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 295 lbs.

Could cost approximately 5 mil/year with few Guard options and a demand for the position (Wished we'd signed Boling last season instead of Browner)...

"Plenty of buzz" around J.R. Sweezy in free agency, per report - Field Gulls

(4) LG Tim Lelito (NO), Grand Valley St; 6' 4"; Weight: 315 lbs.


(5) TE Ben Watson (NO), Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 255 lbs.


And it all starts to come together... :bng:[/QUOTE]

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This is awesome! Combine this with the impending releases of Colston and Browner and we're gonna have about $12 million in cap space. That's before you factor in the eventual Brees extension and Morestead restructure. Plenty of money to give Armstead a well-deserved extension and sign a tier 1 free agent or two!

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Yes, but go back in the thread and look at the cap room some of these teams have...

There's going to be alot of overpaid (context being NFL Salary Cap) players this Free Agency Market...

We'll have to make the hard sell that we're closer to competing than the others...