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jeanpierre 03-12-2016 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 695668)
How about 6'4" 330 lbs DT Jesse Williams former Seahawk?

I think we lost a scalp the last time we discussed Jesse Williams in this forum :bugeyes:

Sure, walk him in and see what he's got left; if we can get him healthy and back on track, WTH!

The Aussie I'd like to acquire is DL Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; they could be roommates...

|Mitch| 03-12-2016 09:58 AM

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He's battled injuries and cancer, and I don't know if he's even able to play but if so... He could definitely be a run stopper

jeanpierre 03-12-2016 10:01 AM

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Geez...This is what it's come to...Bargain Basement Hunting...NT Jessie Williams...

Maybe we'll get lucky and find a copy of the Declaration Of Independence...

Of course, that will have no value pretty soon either...

|Mitch| 03-12-2016 10:02 AM

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Akiem Hicks is still available, but he's probably pissed at the Saints :doh:

jeanpierre 03-12-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 695672)
Akiem Hicks is still available, but he's probably pissed at the Saints :doh:

Bullshinski! You can always come home to the right pots of gold and gumbeaux!

Question is, why was he shipped out in the first place?!?


Sidebar: Mitch, how are y'all doing in Alexandria with regards to the flooding?!?

My daughter goes to the Louisiana School in Natchitoches and the images are pretty awesome...

|Mitch| 03-12-2016 10:11 AM

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We dodged a bullet with regards to the water, not flooded at all. But from Winnfield north it's crazy.

K Major 03-12-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 695674)
We dodged a bullet with regards to the water, not flooded at all. But from Winnfield north it's crazy.

Saw someone had to be airlifted by the National Guard in Winnfield. Didn't realize it had gotten so bad in North La.

|Mitch| 03-12-2016 10:21 AM

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We're all clamoring for D-Line, but we may have the answer already on the roster.

Tyeler Davison and Kaleb Eulls could be primed for a huge season... It could happen...

|Mitch| 03-12-2016 10:30 AM

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|Mitch| 03-12-2016 10:54 AM

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um, overpaid?

jeanpierre 03-12-2016 12:07 PM

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Some free agent possibilities remaining:

DE Chris Long
RG Evan Mathis
FS Eric Weddle
LB James Laurinaitis
LB Sean Spence

rezburna 03-12-2016 12:24 PM

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I'd sign Sean Spence. I'm just going to assume we're a 3-4 team from now on. Eric Weddle isn't going to come to New Orleans. I wouldn't mind Evan Mathis on a 2 year deal. I don't know if Chris Long or James Laurinaitis can play in the 3-4. Plus James is slow. We're trying to get faster.

rezburna 03-12-2016 12:27 PM

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Chris Conte? TF?

hagan714 03-12-2016 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 695664)

Bacarri Rambo time

K Major 03-12-2016 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 695689)
Bacarri Rambo time

I see some ball hawk in him.

ChrisXVI 03-12-2016 03:50 PM

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I'd be fine with keeping Kenny Phillips around for vet minimum.

blackangold 03-12-2016 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 695686)
I'd sign Sean Spence. I'm just going to assume we're a 3-4 team from now on. Eric Weddle isn't going to come to New Orleans. I wouldn't mind Evan Mathis on a 2 year deal. I don't know if Chris Long or James Laurinaitis can play in the 3-4. Plus James is slow. We're trying to get faster.

We are running a 43. As soon as Allen took over we never ran a 34 set. Also Allen has always run 43 sets in his previous roles.

Danno 03-12-2016 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 695702)
We are running a 43. As soon as Allen took over we never ran a 34 set. Also Allen has always run 43 sets in his previous roles.

Yes, we are a 4-3 team, because our talent is better suited for a 4-3.

rezburna 03-12-2016 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 695702)
We are running a 43. As soon as Allen took over we never ran a 34 set. Also Allen has always run 43 sets in his previous roles.

Chris Long is fine then.

K Major 03-12-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 695708)
Chris Long is fine then.

Cowboys to meet with free agent DE Chris Long next week | The Star-Telegram

Jerry may over pay for his services ...

jeanpierre 03-12-2016 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 695702)
We are running a 43. As soon as Allen took over we never ran a 34 set. Also Allen has always run 43 sets in his previous roles.

I'd agree that we're running a 4-3 because of Allen...

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 695703)
Yes, we are a 4-3 team, because our talent is better suited for a 4-3.

Hau'oli Kikaha is a clear 3-4 OLB and was lost once Allen took over...

John Jenkins was a big 3-4 NT that we spent two draft picks to get...

Jenkins was asked to lose weight last pre-season and be a 3-tech Tackle - bad, bad idea...

Cam Jordan's size and abilities allow him to play in either a 3-4 or 4-3...

Stephone Anthony can play in both sets, but was projected to be a standout 3-4 ILB...

Davis Tull was scouted best as a 3-4 OLB, Jack Linebacker...

Tyeler Davison was projected as a Nose Tackle or a run stopping 3-4 DE...

Now, the last group of UDRFA clearly were better suited to a 4-3, and also added to Rob Ryan's exit and Allen's installment...

But I don't agree necessarily that our talent is better suited 4-3...

In Fact, I'd argue it's a mistake putting Allen in charge now because we had clearly acquired personnel to transition to a 3-4; Sean Payton was on record as saying so...

Our problems on defense will continue as we flip-flop on our defensive identity...

I'm not overly optimistic spending high draft choices on defense with Allen in charge running a 4-3 defense with best talent best suited to a 3-4 ...

blackangold 03-12-2016 08:52 PM

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Chris Long and potroast are the signings I'd like to see.

K Major 03-12-2016 09:35 PM

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Jeff Ireland and company needs to have another solid draft.

If we are running the 4-3, I'm still beating the drum on Mr. Nick Fairley. The quickness and speed is still there and he is strong.

Bring him in on the cheap to New Orleans.

jeanpierre 03-12-2016 10:51 PM

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Probably won't see more signings until we get closer to training camp...

Veterans aren't going to participate in the off-season, mini-camp programs on a minimum, low-ball salary...

They'll hire a trainer and stay in some kind of shape and wait out attrition and for teams to come to them (leverage)...

hagan714 03-12-2016 11:18 PM

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Tyeler Davison is a poor mans Sheldon Rankins Just needs time to develop. Tyeler Davison is better off at 43 DT not 34DE or a 34 NT. His game is all about quickness and splitting the gaps. Never agreed with the 34 DE talk. Plenty of upside at the right position. Actual may turn out to be better than Rankins at DT down the road.

John Jenkins is a rotational NT in 43.
He is not quick enough for 43DT. Not strong enough for 34NT. Not sold he has the desire to be the starter

Stephone Anthony fared pretty well as a MLB in a 43 set
. I will judge in 3 years what we got. they dumped a lot on the kid. so far so good

Davis Tull I can see him as a 4-3 Sam.
Starter? not sure yet. He was a WR in high school which always helps. He is athletic enough to handle it. Remember he was one of the freak-show in the pre draft beauty pageants. He obliterated the Combine 42 1/2-inch vertical and 11-foot broad jump and a pro day forty of 4.57. Thats still freakish even by 2016 standards. Football IQ was rated as high. No one questions his motor either. Give him a couple of years and lets see what we got. There is more to this kid than pass rushing skills. Plus special teams impact will be huge while we are waiting. I am actually looking forward to this show over the next couple of years.

But Kikaha is the biggest question mark in a 43. Hard to peg the kid for anything but a 34. Kikaha game is down hill and behind the line. DE? He may end up being a pass rush specialist. But I am not selling him short as an option at SLB. Some work is needed, ok maybe a good bit but stranger things have worked out. Besides it not like we have any DE opposite of Cam anyways that provide a pass rush. Weak side attacking DE?

I see this group as flexible enough to go 43. But we have a bunch of starters right now that are better suited as rotational players. Which I may blame Rob for but I will give DA some time and see were he goes with this.

Tyeler Davison DT is the move I am hoping for the most this off season. He does needs a space eater with some pass rush skills to open things up for him.

FinSaint 03-13-2016 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 695718)
Chris Long and potroast are the signings I'd like to see.


I wanted the Saints to sign him before he went to Denver, but I'm not sure if it isn't too late now.

saintsfan1976 03-13-2016 07:20 PM

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Top remaining.


1. Eric Weddle, S
2. Russell Okung, OT
3. Reggie Nelson, S
4. Ryan Fitzpatrick, QB
5. Chris Long, DE
6. Nick Fairley, DT
7. Arian Foster, RB
8. Andre Smith, OT
9. Kelvin Beachum, OT
10. Walter Thurmond, DB
11. Donald Penn, OT
12. Casey Heyward, CB
13. B.J. Raji, NT
14. Greg Hardy, DE
15. Anquan Boldin, WR
16. Terrance Knighton, DT
17. Rashad Johnson, S
18. Alfred Morris, RB
19. Evan Mathis, OG
20. Mike Wallace, WR

jeanpierre 03-13-2016 07:29 PM

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High-end quarterbacks should be clamoring to set the bar higher | ProFootballTalk

saintsfan1976 03-13-2016 07:30 PM

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I would take Anquan Boldin and Mike Neal (OLB Green Bay) in a heartbeat.

jeanpierre 03-13-2016 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 695832)
I would take Anquan Boldin and Mike Neal (OLB Green Bay) in a heartbeat.

I would think we need more of a post-up, big receiver with reliable hands to replace Colston in the offense...

Always liked Boldin as the perfect No. 2 receiver...

hagan714 03-13-2016 08:44 PM

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Brandon Thompson, DT, Bengals ????

ChrisXVI 03-14-2016 01:43 PM

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There's an interesting name.

K Major 03-14-2016 02:42 PM

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I honestly don't know anything about Craig. Fast? How is he in pass coverage? If he can be had on the cheap, bring him in to camp and see what he does.

Side note: I wonder if the Saints FO have any interest in Zach Brown or T Whitehead?

frydaddy 03-14-2016 02:48 PM

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I think Whitehead must have resigned with Detroit. I didn't see his name on the list of available free agents. Haven't seen news of any transactions regarding him either though..

K Major 03-14-2016 02:56 PM

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Fry,

Thanks for the update. Yep, I see the Lions re signed him (Tahir Whitehead).

hagan714 03-14-2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 695881)
I honestly don't know anything about Craig. Fast? How is he in pass coverage? If he can be had on the cheap, bring him in to camp and see what he does.

Side note: I wonder if the Saints FO have any interest in Zach Brown or T Whitehead?

Robertson 28, is a pass-coverage specialist at inside linebacker. 6-1 234 - so an over sized safety

If you watched any Browns games in 2014, you probably noticed Robertson jump off the screen when they were on defense. The guy is a playmaker. He started games at the Mo and Mike linebacker spots in the Browns 3-4 defense.
Robertson had 99 combined tackles in 2014, but 37 stops at, or behind, the line of scrimmage. He is always around the ball, which is an instinct you want in a linebacker. He also is good in coverage, with 4 passes defensed and 2 interceptions last year. This earned him a +2.2 cumulative grade via Pro Football Focus.
One of the attributes that sets Robertson apart from his peers is his intensity. He’s a tenacious player and that type of swagger and spirit could be used in Denver. He also has experience playing with his former Browns teammate, T.J. Ward. But that’s neither here nor there.


Broncos Free Agent Wish List: Craig Robertson - Denver - Scout

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...011&genpos=ILB

rezburna 03-14-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 695886)
Robertson 28, is a pass-coverage specialist at inside linebacker. 6-1 234 - so an over sized safety

If you watched any Browns games in 2014, you probably noticed Robertson jump off the screen when they were on defense. The guy is a playmaker. He started games at the Mo and Mike linebacker spots in the Browns 3-4 defense.
Robertson had 99 combined tackles in 2014, but 37 stops at, or behind, the line of scrimmage. He is always around the ball, which is an instinct you want in a linebacker. He also is good in coverage, with 4 passes defensed and 2 interceptions last year. This earned him a +2.2 cumulative grade via Pro Football Focus.
One of the attributes that sets Robertson apart from his peers is his intensity. He’s a tenacious player and that type of swagger and spirit could be used in Denver. He also has experience playing with his former Browns teammate, T.J. Ward. But that’s neither here nor there.


Broncos Free Agent Wish List: Craig Robertson - Denver - Scout

Craig Robertson*|*North Texas,*ILB*:*2011 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

We're finding the gems.

ChrisXVI 03-14-2016 03:49 PM

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Craig Robertson would be awesome to have when Ellerbe suffers the inevitable injury this season.

jeanpierre 03-14-2016 04:56 PM

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(Updated) Some free agent possibilities remaining:

DE Chris Long - Un-signed, Visits tracker: Long, Washington to meet with Patriots - NFL.com

RG Evan Mathis - Un-signed

FS Eric Weddle - Signed, Eric Weddle to join Baltimore Ravens

LB James Laurinaitis - Un-signed, LB James Laurinaitis has made 7 visits, dad says | NOLA.com

LB Sean Spence - Un-signed, http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpo...phins-tonight/

LB Zach Brown - Un-signed

brees84 03-15-2016 02:08 PM

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