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Mr.Riaton 03-04-2016 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 694484)
You are funny Riation.

I'd settle for just signing one impact player this Free Agency. Got a feeling the Saints will target a Mid Tier/smaller name type guy for 2016.

Just dreaming big my man...just dreaming big...:)

jeanpierre 03-05-2016 05:11 AM

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(excerpt)

Agent's Take: The exact dollar figures that top free agents should target
By Joel Corry | Former Sports Agent
March 2, 2016 7:16 pm ET

If an agent doesn't ask for big money, a player can't get it. However, there is the risk of pricing a client out of the market by making unreasonably high demands.

Free agency is a fluid process...

The window for teams to negotiate exclusively with their impending free agents ends on March 7. That's when all teams are allowed to negotiate with the agents of prospective unrestricted free agents during a two-day period ending at 3:59:59 p.m. ET on March 9. Players can't sign deals with new clubs until the 2016 league year and free agency officially begins at 4 p.m. ET that day. A player's ability to re-sign with his current club is allowed during the period.

The 2016 salary cap came in higher than expected at $155.27 million. Several teams having in excess of $40 million of cap space as well as the 8.37 percent cap increase should result in a strong market during the first wave of free agency, which typically is over after the first 96 hours of the signing period...

...Malik Jackson, Defensive Lineman
Contract package: 6 years, $84 million
Guaranteed money: $45 million
First three years: $46.5 million

Keeping Jackson may not feasible for the Broncos since he recently rejected an offer in the neighborhood of $12 million per year, according to KUSA's Mike Klis (:shock:). Bears head coach John Fox would welcome a reunion with Jackson but may need to convince general manager Ryan Pace to make a splash in free agency. Jackson would make an already good Texans defense even more formidable. His ability to play in a variety of defensive schemes could attract interest from multiple teams, including the Jaguars, Giants and Raiders...

jeanpierre 03-06-2016 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 694236)
Wiliams was bad in Ryans 3-4 defense. (entire defense was bad) Before that he was great. If we don't swich to 3-4 defense then this is solid signing.

In what world were we running a 3-4 defense under Ryan?!?

Williams was old and still graded out better than most of our DL...

Only reason why Cam graded higher is because the scale is overly weighted to sacks...

And Jordan often failed to set,secure the edge pushing, collapsing the pocket...

brees84 03-06-2016 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 694643)
In what world were we running a 3-4 defense under Ryan?!?

Williams was old and still graded out better than most of our DL...

Only reason why Cam graded higher is because the scale is overly weighted to sacks...

And Jordan often failed to set,secure the edge pushing, collapsing the pocket...

I was talking about Mario Williams in Rex Ryan's defense.

jeanpierre 03-06-2016 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 694644)
I was talking about Mario Williams in Rex Ryan's defense.

:doh:

jeanpierre 03-06-2016 03:03 PM

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Malik Jackson's next deal could average $12-13 million per year

K Major 03-06-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 694687)

Wow :bugeyes:!

jeanpierre 03-06-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 694688)
Wow :bugeyes:!

Hey, he's top of the food chain right now...

You wanna play with the best, you gotta pay the best...

But you're right, that's a big commitment...:chug:

jeanpierre 03-06-2016 05:44 PM

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New Orleans Saints need bargain aisle for defensive line free agents: Larry Holder | NOLA.com

Like Larry, but we've come this far, it's time to pay if we want to play with the big dogs...

jeanpierre 03-06-2016 05:51 PM

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Pretty straightforward, repost of the link...

Strategy for the Saints' Pursuit of Malik Jackson?: Pay the Man - New Orleans Saints - Pro Football Spot

jeanpierre 03-06-2016 05:55 PM

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For those of you who thought we had a strong locker room and could right the career paths of WR Josh Gordon or QB Johnny Manziel, I give you...

LOOK: Johnny Manziel hangs with Josh Gordon at UFC 196 in Las Vegas - CBSSports.com

jeanpierre 03-06-2016 07:41 PM

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Maybe a tip of things to come; went back and found this nugget from Barry...

SACK ATTACK: Saints 2016 Draft Top Pass-Rusher Targets

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At the end of last season before the Week #16 home finale against the Jaguars, CBS Sports play-by-play announcer Andrew Catalon revealed that that the Saints plan to be very aggressive in the upcoming off-season about addressing the problems on defense.

In a pre-game interview earlier that week Saints head coach Sean Payton told Catalon specifically that the Saints “planned to pursue a pass rusher” in Free Agency — though as it’s been well-documented, just how aggressive the Saints really are or aren’t in Free Agency will be determined by how much money they’re able to free up by getting further underneath the salary cap.

ChrisXVI 03-06-2016 08:35 PM

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Good find JP! That makes me even more excited about these next couple of days. I know you're all in on Malik Jackson but who would be your #2 pass rushing target? I don't think I've seen you mention who your consolation prize would be.

hagan714 03-07-2016 04:25 AM

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still beating the drum for young and hungry just looking for a chance to start. short term contracts loaded with incentives.

jeanpierre 03-07-2016 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 694724)
Good find JP! That makes me even more excited about these next couple of days. I know you're all in on Malik Jackson but who would be your #2 pass rushing target? I don't think I've seen you mention who your consolation prize would be.

DE Chris Long, Los Angeles Rams

DE Derrick Shelby, Miami Dolphins

DE William Hayes, Los Angeles Rams

DE Jason Jones, Detroit Lions

Of course, the other part of the pie was signing NT Damon Harrison; that could allow you to kick out someone to DE as a big anchor-type, 5-tech type...

Then you could let these young perimeter pass rushers attack from the edge or stunt underneath...

K Major 03-07-2016 12:24 PM

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FWIW ...

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/...harles-johnson

Free agent DE Charles Johnson will visit the Giants on Sunday.

Relevant part - see below:

"Johnson is also expected to have interest from the Saints. Sort of a poor man's Justin Tuck, Johnson is a base left end who can rush from the interior in passing situations." Mar 5 - 7:30 PM

K Major 03-07-2016 12:31 PM

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Update -

LATEST NEWS
RECENT NEWS
ESPN Saints reporter Mike Triplett said he could definitely see New Orleans pursuing a "second-tier defensive end" like Charles Johnson in free agency.
He listed Robert Ayers, William Hayes and Chris Long as other edge rushers the Saints might be interested in. The Saints only have around $10 million in cap space right now, which likely takes them out of the running for Jason Pierre-Paul and Mario Williams. Adding a pass-rusher needs to be a point of emphasis for New Orleans. Only five teams logged fewer sacks than the Saints in 2015. Mar 4 - 1:36 PM
Source: ESPN.com

brees84 03-07-2016 12:41 PM

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brees84 03-07-2016 01:43 PM

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brees84 03-07-2016 02:30 PM

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Dolphins. wow.


brees84 03-07-2016 02:53 PM

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Only incentive based contract...

ChrisXVI 03-07-2016 02:56 PM

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Really want to see what Miami is giving up for Maxwell and Alonso because they might be insane.

rezburna 03-07-2016 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 694784)

I'd love this move.

ChrisXVI 03-07-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 694784)

That would be a very strange and un-Payton type of signing. Definitely have to be a one year "prove it" deal.

K Major 03-07-2016 03:25 PM

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Maxwell was waay over rated & that was a horrible Philly contract to obtain his services.

brees84 03-07-2016 03:52 PM

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ChrisXVI 03-07-2016 06:45 PM

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So Philly is pulling a 2015 Saints and trading everyone lol. Undoing all of Chip Kelly's dumb moves first trading Alonso and Maxwell to Miami and now Demarco Murray to Tennessee.

K Major 03-07-2016 07:02 PM

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I also read Philly FO is looking to move Ryan Mathews as well.

How in the hell did Chip Kelly get another HC job so quickly after leaving one in such disarray is mind boggling.

brees84 03-07-2016 07:07 PM

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Wow. Can't believe this! lol



And I thought we can sign guys like Ladarius Green or Cook for 4-5 mil per year. hahaha

ChrisXVI 03-07-2016 07:08 PM

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Damn it Indy... You just screwed up the TE market.

brees84 03-07-2016 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 694816)
Damn it Indy... You just screwed up the TE market.

True. In 2014 Dolphins did the same thing with CB market. Gave Grimes 4-year 32 mil contract.

K Major 03-07-2016 09:21 PM

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Allen had only 16 catches last year .. 16.

Wow.

jeanpierre 03-08-2016 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 694816)
Damn it Indy... You just screwed up the TE market.

Jim Irsay hittin' the ole sauce again...

hagan714 03-08-2016 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 694784)

heck no he can stay health. pass

hagan714 03-08-2016 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 694813)
I also read Philly FO is looking to move Ryan Mathews as well.

How in the hell did Chip Kelly get another HC job so quickly after leaving one in such disarray is mind boggling.

Another player with injury concerns.

hagan714 03-08-2016 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 694815)


yet another player that has spent more time pool side than on the field.

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 694815)
And I thought we can sign guys like Ladarius Green or Cook for 4-5 mil per year. hahaha

Cook might be a solid sneaky pickup. I always thought he was on teams that were unfriendly to TE. He is not getting much press so he might be had cheap on a 1 year prove it contract. Not so much prove it to the saints as him selling himself to the rest of the NFL next time around in FA. at 29 years of age he needs to do it now.

Mr.Riaton 03-08-2016 09:26 AM

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I gotta question. If 2017 is supposed to be major cap relief for the Saints,can we spend big in FA and dump off most of the load of their contracts in 2017? Can contracts be set up like that? If it can, I think it would be worth going after Malik Johnson and let the bulk of his contract fall into next years cap. If Drew restructures, we will be able to grab about 3 or 4 mid teir players(WR,G,TE). Then we could do like Carolina and draft DT with the first two picks.

ChrisXVI 03-08-2016 09:29 AM

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There goes that dream.

brees84 03-08-2016 09:59 AM

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brees84 03-08-2016 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 694893)

More than 11mil per year. wow.


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