2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 07:39 PM

Think the reason we were outscored so much during the 1st quarter of NEARLY all our games may have been due to the fact we were giving up over 140 yards on the ground on average?

Kinda hard to score when you can\'t take the Field...

okay we give up 140 yards. how much did the offense gain in the first half or wherever you pulled that stat from?

shadowdrinker · 02-25-2005, 07:46 PM

[quote:16335c85f7]yeah the stats say the defense was bad. That was never questioned.

Um...mind reading the thread topic ?..you did start it..right?

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 07:47 PM

Think the reason we were outscored so much during the 1st quarter of NEARLY all our games may have been due to the fact we were giving up over 140 yards on the ground on average?

Kinda hard to score when you can\'t take the Field...

Kinda hard to score when you go three and out and can\'t stay on the field. I\'m out after this. I know what i saw during game time. Punts, and 3 and outs during the first half. The defense on the field LONGER than the offense because they couldn\'t control the ball, even when given a turnover from the defense. Uninspired football is contagious and the offense was uninspired. The offense had all the potential and allll the superstars and what did they give us? Nice stats.

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 07:49 PM

[quote:da7e5bb261]yeah the stats say the defense was bad. That was never questioned.

Um...mind reading the thread topic ?..you did start it..right?

No i didn\'t start it XAN did and Not as bad as we think is the topic, hence bad but not as bad as the offense.

[Edited on 26/2/2005 by lynwood]

shadowdrinker · 02-25-2005, 07:49 PM

okay we give up 140 yards. how much did the offense gain in the first half or wherever you pulled that stat from?
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics

There\'s where I got my stats from..E.S.P.N.com

How the heck is the Offense suppose to put up numbers when the defense lets the opposing team run the ball at will?

With the way our D played..It\'s a miracle the Offense was even able to pull off a top 15 Ranking

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 07:53 PM

okay we give up 140 yards. how much did the offense gain in the first half or wherever you pulled that stat from?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics

There\'s where I got my stats from..E.S.P.N.com

How the heck is the Offense suppose to put up numbers when the defense lets the opposing team run the ball at will?

With the way our D played..It\'s a miracle the Offense was even able to pull off a top 15 Ranking
[/quote:2c1eed1f4b]

So what your saying is our offense was so bad it couldn\'t get at least 140 yards in the first half? heck they were averging over 300 yards a game right? Guess those were 4th quarter yards. But you proved my point. 3 and outs don\'t get you many yards and they played 4th quater pad the stat ball.

[Edited on 26/2/2005 by lynwood]

shadowdrinker · 02-25-2005, 08:01 PM

hence bad but not as bad as the offense.

[Edited on 26/2/2005 by lynwood] [/quote:24b312180e]

hahahahahahahaa...So now...your just flat out saying the Defense is better than the Offense?...that is just a LIE...

15th rank vs. 32nd rank...Doesn\'t take a Math Genius to figure this one out...it does however..take a person who can see beyond the rose colored delusion that this Defense is not as bad as it seems...

Your celebrating one of the Worst Defensive units that has ever played Football ...EVER....

You can take whichever scenario you want..pick and choose this drive..this play..whatever...it\'s all falsified...because the end result is what ultimately matters...4-12 teams don\'t go to the Playoffs...and 32nd ranked Defesnses don\'t win games...that\'s why they\'re last...cuz they\'re the worst...

shadowdrinker · 02-25-2005, 08:10 PM

You want to talk about \'\' Stat Padding\'\'..?

Take the last 4 games of the year...even with the D getting the easy way out..on most of the last quarter of the Season...they still ranked last.

The Offense doesn\'t have a \'\'Stat Padding\'\' agenda...they just play better than about 17 other teams...yards gained in the 1st and yards gained in the 4th are both recorded in the same manner...to say they are just padding stats is an opinion of rage...and dissapointment...not anywhere close to bieng true..at all.

Tobias-Reiper · 02-25-2005, 08:20 PM

... I don\'t want to type the whole thing again, so I\'m just going to cut an paste this stats from another post:

.500

[Edited on 26/2/2005 by Tobias-Reiper]

lynwood · 02-25-2005, 08:22 PM

Then where was the offense during the first half of the games? Like i said before and i\'lll say it again you can throw and run for as many yards you want but if you don\'t score you don\'t win. The first half of the games the offense was worse than the defense. the expectation of the defense was nowhere near the expectation of the offense.they were expected to place high in stats but also to score, and not go three and out all season long. all they did was put up yards with no points. what good is that besides looking good for stats?

02-25-2005, 07:39 PM	#71
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk Think the reason we were outscored so much during the 1st quarter of NEARLY all our games may have been due to the fact we were giving up over 140 yards on the ground on average? Kinda hard to score when you can\'t take the Field... okay we give up 140 yards. how much did the offense gain in the first half or wherever you pulled that stat from?

02-25-2005, 07:46 PM	#72
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk [quote:16335c85f7]yeah the stats say the defense was bad. That was never questioned. Um...mind reading the thread topic ?..you did start it..right?
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02-25-2005, 07:47 PM	#73
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk Think the reason we were outscored so much during the 1st quarter of NEARLY all our games may have been due to the fact we were giving up over 140 yards on the ground on average? Kinda hard to score when you can\'t take the Field... Kinda hard to score when you go three and out and can\'t stay on the field. I\'m out after this. I know what i saw during game time. Punts, and 3 and outs during the first half. The defense on the field LONGER than the offense because they couldn\'t control the ball, even when given a turnover from the defense. Uninspired football is contagious and the offense was uninspired. The offense had all the potential and allll the superstars and what did they give us? Nice stats.

02-25-2005, 07:49 PM	#74
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk [quote:da7e5bb261]yeah the stats say the defense was bad. That was never questioned. Um...mind reading the thread topic ?..you did start it..right? No i didn\'t start it XAN did and Not as bad as we think is the topic, hence bad but not as bad as the offense. [Edited on 26/2/2005 by lynwood]

02-25-2005, 07:49 PM	#75
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk okay we give up 140 yards. how much did the offense gain in the first half or wherever you pulled that stat from? [/quote:5b4b68514d] http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics There\'s where I got my stats from..E.S.P.N.com How the heck is the Offense suppose to put up numbers when the defense lets the opposing team run the ball at will? With the way our D played..It\'s a miracle the Offense was even able to pull off a top 15 Ranking
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02-25-2005, 07:53 PM	#76
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk okay we give up 140 yards. how much did the offense gain in the first half or wherever you pulled that stat from? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistics There\'s where I got my stats from..E.S.P.N.com How the heck is the Offense suppose to put up numbers when the defense lets the opposing team run the ball at will? With the way our D played..It\'s a miracle the Offense was even able to pull off a top 15 Ranking [/quote:2c1eed1f4b] So what your saying is our offense was so bad it couldn\'t get at least 140 yards in the first half? heck they were averging over 300 yards a game right? Guess those were 4th quarter yards. But you proved my point. 3 and outs don\'t get you many yards and they played 4th quater pad the stat ball. [Edited on 26/2/2005 by lynwood]

02-25-2005, 08:01 PM	#77
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk hence bad but not as bad as the offense. [Edited on 26/2/2005 by lynwood] [/quote:24b312180e] hahahahahahahaa...So now...your just flat out saying the Defense is better than the Offense?...that is just a LIE... 15th rank vs. 32nd rank...Doesn\'t take a Math Genius to figure this one out...it does however..take a person who can see beyond the rose colored delusion that this Defense is not as bad as it seems... Your celebrating one of the Worst Defensive units that has ever played Football ...EVER.... You can take whichever scenario you want..pick and choose this drive..this play..whatever...it\'s all falsified...because the end result is what ultimately matters...4-12 teams don\'t go to the Playoffs...and 32nd ranked Defesnses don\'t win games...that\'s why they\'re last...cuz they\'re the worst...
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02-25-2005, 08:10 PM	#78
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk You want to talk about \'\' Stat Padding\'\'..? Take the last 4 games of the year...even with the D getting the easy way out..on most of the last quarter of the Season...they still ranked last. The Offense doesn\'t have a \'\'Stat Padding\'\' agenda...they just play better than about 17 other teams...yards gained in the 1st and yards gained in the 4th are both recorded in the same manner...to say they are just padding stats is an opinion of rage...and dissapointment...not anywhere close to bieng true..at all.
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02-25-2005, 08:20 PM	#79
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk ... I don\'t want to type the whole thing again, so I\'m just going to cut an paste this stats from another post: .500 [Edited on 26/2/2005 by Tobias-Reiper]

02-25-2005, 08:22 PM	#80
lynwood 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hockley, Tx Posts: 1,515	2004 Defensive Performance not as bad as you thinnk Then where was the offense during the first half of the games? Like i said before and i\'lll say it again you can throw and run for as many yards you want but if you don\'t score you don\'t win. The first half of the games the offense was worse than the defense. the expectation of the defense was nowhere near the expectation of the offense.they were expected to place high in stats but also to score, and not go three and out all season long. all they did was put up yards with no points. what good is that besides looking good for stats?