Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident

|Mitch| · 04-14-2016, 01:05 PM

neugey · 04-12-2016, 09:36 PM

I saw earlier today Pierre Thomas posted an update on his Facebook. I would link/copy here but I'm on my work computer and firewall cuts off social media.

Can't get out of my head that Will Smith was pretty much the only player that both endured the Katrina season and won the Super Bowl. That is pretty special in my book. Man this sucks. And I can't imagine what Will's family is going through.

The Dude · 04-12-2016, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I saw earlier today Pierre Thomas posted an update on his Facebook. I would link/copy here but I'm on my work computer and firewall cuts off social media.

Can't get out of my head that Will Smith was pretty much the only player that both endured the Katrina season and won the Super Bowl. That is pretty special in my book. Man this sucks. And I can't imagine what Will's family is going through.

I imagine its pretty rough for them

SmashMouth · 04-13-2016, 08:16 AM

Cordell's passenger says his life was saved that evening

Crusader · 04-13-2016, 09:40 AM

Fully loaded handgun found in Will Smith's vehicle, but no evidence weapon was fired, police say

SmashMouth · 04-13-2016, 11:47 AM

Lawyer for Cardell Hayes’ passenger calls killing of Will Smith “justifiable homicide” | ProFootballTalk

NonieT · 04-13-2016, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Lawyer for Cardell Hayes’ passenger calls killing of Will Smith “justifiable homicide” | ProFootballTalk

Nothing justified about being shot 8 times.

The Dude · 04-13-2016, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Nothing justified about being shot 8 times.

If you are shooting in self defense you don't just shoot once and stop to see if it stopped the aggressor or not. If you are shooting in self defense you continue to pull the trigger until the threat is over or you are out of ammo and then stop. It's not like he had to take the time to reload and then shoot again.

That being said I don't see the self defense excuse will hold water. He went back to his car to get his gun and then reapproached Smith. If a smart person walks up to someone's car and that person says he had a gun the smart person will retreat. Only someone who wants to prove that he is a bad ass would go back to their car to get a gun and reengage the person.

jeanpierre · 04-13-2016, 02:39 PM

Two shots, eight shots, can be understood in a stressful situation...

Again, refer to earlier post...

Cardell Hayes followed Will Smith down before running into the back of him and summarily executing him...

That is not justifiable, that is Murder two...

Have they written the taxpayer check yet for that BS settlement?!? May want to delay that check...

hagan714 · 04-13-2016, 03:53 PM

Ok so the guy who wins millions says it is self defense and his buddy says the same thing, big surprise there. They knew cameras were all over the area so they played it smart. Old game been done 1000 times before.

now for the other side of the story

Family attorney: Smith was protecting wife when shot

Before former Saints star Will Smith was shot and killed Saturday night, Smith's wife, Racquel, was shot once in each leg, according to the family's attorney, Peter Thomson.

Family attorney: Smith was protecting wife when shot - NFL.com

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,877 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident I saw earlier today Pierre Thomas posted an update on his Facebook. I would link/copy here but I'm on my work computer and firewall cuts off social media. Can't get out of my head that Will Smith was pretty much the only player that both endured the Katrina season and won the Super Bowl. That is pretty special in my book. Man this sucks. And I can't imagine what Will's family is going through. jeanpierre likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,064	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Originally Posted by neugey I saw earlier today Pierre Thomas posted an update on his Facebook. I would link/copy here but I'm on my work computer and firewall cuts off social media. Can't get out of my head that Will Smith was pretty much the only player that both endured the Katrina season and won the Super Bowl. That is pretty special in my book. Man this sucks. And I can't imagine what Will's family is going through. I imagine its pretty rough for them
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,967 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Lawyer for Cardell Hayes’ passenger calls killing of Will Smith “justifiable homicide” \| ProFootballTalk

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Originally Posted by SmashMouth Lawyer for Cardell Hayes’ passenger calls killing of Will Smith “justifiable homicide” \| ProFootballTalk Nothing justified about being shot 8 times.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,064	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Originally Posted by NonieT Nothing justified about being shot 8 times. If you are shooting in self defense you don't just shoot once and stop to see if it stopped the aggressor or not. If you are shooting in self defense you continue to pull the trigger until the threat is over or you are out of ammo and then stop. It's not like he had to take the time to reload and then shoot again. That being said I don't see the self defense excuse will hold water. He went back to his car to get his gun and then reapproached Smith. If a smart person walks up to someone's car and that person says he had a gun the smart person will retreat. Only someone who wants to prove that he is a bad ass would go back to their car to get a gun and reengage the person. spkb25 likes this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Two shots, eight shots, can be understood in a stressful situation... Again, refer to earlier post... Cardell Hayes followed Will Smith down before running into the back of him and summarily executing him... That is not justifiable, that is Murder two... Have they written the taxpayer check yet for that BS settlement?!? May want to delay that check... The Dude likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Ex-Saints DE Will Smith killed; wife shot after traffic accident Ok so the guy who wins millions says it is self defense and his buddy says the same thing, big surprise there. They knew cameras were all over the area so they played it smart. Old game been done 1000 times before. now for the other side of the story Family attorney: Smith was protecting wife when shot Before former Saints star Will Smith was shot and killed Saturday night, Smith's wife, Racquel, was shot once in each leg, according to the family's attorney, Peter Thomson. Family attorney: Smith was protecting wife when shot - NFL.com jnormand likes this.

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