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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by nola_swammi It's the threat that he was going to shoot Hayes and will smith having a loaded gun in his vehicle that will set this guy free. "Stand your ground law" You don't have a clue as ...

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Old 04-12-2016, 08:42 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by nola_swammi View Post
It's the threat that he was going to shoot Hayes and will smith having a loaded gun in his vehicle that will set this guy free. "Stand your ground law"
You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. People this is why you can never take to heart anything you read on forums like these concerning gun laws. It is your responsibility to know the law and you need to get it from a reputable site, not just what some dude heard.

The"stand your ground law" likely doesn't apply here. Will was inside of his own car which is an extension of your home in Louisiana. The fact that Hayes approached Smith while he was in his car and then turned around to go get his gun throws out stand your ground.

There are other scenarios where it could be ruled as self defense but most judges would throw out the Stand your ground argument in this case.

And you can absolutely open carry in Loisiana
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:09 PM   #2
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You don't have a clue as to what you are talking about. People this is why you can never take to heart anything you read on forums like these concerning gun laws. It is your responsibility to know the law and you need to get it from a reputable site, not just what some dude heard.

The"stand your ground law" likely doesn't apply here. Will was inside of his own car which is an extension of your home in Louisiana. The fact that Hayes approached Smith while he was in his car and then turned around to go get his gun throws out stand your ground.

There are other scenarios where it could be ruled as self defense but most judges would throw out the Stand your ground argument in this case.

And you can absolutely open carry in Loisiana
Will Smith was not in his car, he was walking toward his car I assume since he was shot in the back and side. Yes, he died in his car after being shot outside the car I assume. I am waiting to see all the facts. By will smith claiming to get his gun and have a loaded gun in his car can be perceive as a threat. If Hayes got out his car with his gun and approached will smith then you absolutely correct stand your ground will not apply

In the United States, a stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) is a law that authorizes an individual to protect and defend their own life and limb against threat or perceived threat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law
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Old 04-12-2016, 10:41 PM   #3
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Will Smith was not in his car, he was walking toward his car I assume since he was shot in the back and side. Yes, he died in his car after being shot outside the car I assume. I am waiting to see all the facts. By will smith claiming to get his gun and have a loaded gun in his car can be perceive as a threat. If Hayes got out his car with his gun and approached will smith then you absolutely correct stand your ground will not apply

In the United States, a stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) is a law that authorizes an individual to protect and defend their own life and limb against threat or perceived threat.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law
im well aware of the gun laws here in Louisiana. Unlike you who makes an assumption and posts that "carrying a loaded gun is illegal"

And Wikipedia is NOT an accurate site. Anyone can add to it. Again another example of people not knowing how to obtain factual information. Guns are serious and in the wrong, uneducated hands can easily take a life. One of the most important part of safety is being educated. We wouldn't need more gun laws if people would take the time to know the laws that already exist.

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Old 04-13-2016, 03:39 PM   #4
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im well aware of the gun laws here in Louisiana. Unlike you who makes an assumption and posts that "carrying a loaded gun is illegal"

And Wikipedia is NOT an accurate site. Anyone can add to it. Again another example of people not knowing how to obtain factual information. Guns are serious and in the wrong, uneducated hands can easily take a life. One of the most important part of safety is being educated. We wouldn't need more gun laws if people would take the time to know the laws that already exist.
Dude, I am just trying to enlighten you on what I discovered about stand your ground law, I am not a lawyer, or your librarian to find out the facts about the law, if you have any FACTS to refute what I am saying please post a link, I have no problem putting up links even if I find out what I am saying is wrong. I am trying to stop going on and on about the subject cause how sensitive this subject is. I DON'T LIKE THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW since it does seem to biased. I wasn't going to reply til you edited your post about Wikipedia.
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Dude, I am just trying to enlighten you on what I discovered about stand your ground law, I am not a lawyer, or your librarian to find out the facts about the law, if you have any FACTS to refute what I am saying please post a link, I have no problem putting up links even if I find out what I am saying is wrong. I am trying to stop going on and on about the subject cause how sensitive this subject is. I DON'T LIKE THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW since it does seem to biased. I wasn't going to reply til you edited your post about Wikipedia.
Are you even on the same planet as everyone else? I didn't ask you to be my librarian, I was correcting you. I'm not here to post laws, they are clearly written on the State Police website.
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Old 04-13-2016, 07:05 PM   #6
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Are you even on the same planet as everyone else? I didn't ask you to be my librarian, I was correcting you. I'm not here to post laws, they are clearly written on the State Police website.
I am on planet EARTH, maybe you're somewhere else.

Sir! you haven't corrected me on anything, you more like babbled about nothing so now I must refrain from replying to anymore ignorant statements about "STAND YOUR GROUND" law with YOU
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