Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?

09-27-2016, 04:45 PM

There are so many moving parts to this organization it's hard to put my finger on where we need improvement. Coach Payton is still my man! We all know who the position coaches that need to go to help him. It wouldn't hurt if we could field at least half the team.

captainshawn · 09-28-2016, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year.

Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others.

Breaux
PJWilliams
Vaccaro
Ellerbe
Davison
Armstead
Snead
Hooman
Lewis
Swann
Wilson
Kikaha
Rankins
Sanford
Hill

Starters bolded

Maybe it's the graveyard the dome is built on...

Budsdrinker · 09-28-2016, 10:01 AM

Payton will stay but he needs to let Vitt and Johnson go and I don't know if he is willing to do that. It may be his downfall just like Mora with Carl Smith.
Defensive line is still undisciplined. Even Jordan gave up containment to of all people Shatty Ice. Anthony (who I like) was out of position so many times it was ridiculous. All of our LB's think it is more important to engage with blockers than to flow to the ball. That's a bad scheme in my opinion. Look at the pick 6 Jones had. He was just flowing towards the ball because he sure wasn't covering anyone. Besides Brees should've hit Cooks who was wide open instead of forcing it to Thomas. We need changes to coaching the front 7 that's for sure. DB's except for Byrd are playing well considering their experience.

K Major · 09-28-2016, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

We need changes to coaching the front 7 that's for sure. DB's except for Byrd are playing well considering their experience.

What happened to this player??

captainshawn · 09-28-2016, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

This is no way meant to be condescending, but please elaborate as to why his job should be safe?

Because Sean took over a complete disaster of a team and drug his family into a hell hole that most can't even imagine. He got us a Lombardi, something that I NEVER thought would happen, and he got screwed big time by Goodell for our so called "Bounty" system. That alone set this franchise back a couple of years. Is he without fault? No, but as long as we have him and Drew together we have a chance.

Some of the injuries we've sustained might be because of conditioning issues, but you can't blame broken bones, concussions or sprains on lack of exercise.

I do think that some of the position coaches need to be shown the door.
Loomis should also be given a hard look for these F/A disasters that we seem to keep getting ourselves into but not Payton. He has no choice but to start guy's that would otherwise have seen limited time on the field.

WillSaints81 · 09-28-2016, 05:21 PM

Payton is the reason Loomis signs anyone. How many times does that need to be said?

dizzle88 · 09-28-2016, 05:48 PM

Just FYI, as we've had trouble at CB for as long as I can remember now, the player Sean Payton passed on to draft Andrus Peat.....you know....the guy who won defensive rookie of the year last season, yeah he's leading the league in picks once again.

How do you pick Andrus Peat over Marcus Peters? Especially how badly we needed a corner that year and now.

Danno · 09-28-2016, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Just FYI, as we've had trouble at CB for as long as I can remember now, the player Sean Payton passed on to draft Andrus Peat.....you know....the guy who won defensive rookie of the year last season, yeah he's leading the league in picks once again.

How do you pick Andrus Peat over Marcus Peters? Especially how badly we needed a corner that year and now.

Peters had some serious baggage, but I agree.

I don't have a problem with the position we picked, we need a RT, but it appears we picked a dud.

If we don't spend every 2017 pick (and free-agents) on front 7 and O-line, the entire staff should be fired.

Euphoria · 09-28-2016, 06:48 PM

I think SP is safe.

Until Benson kicks the bucket.

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09-28-2016, 10:00 AM	#92
captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by Danno I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year. Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others. Breaux PJWilliams Vaccaro Ellerbe Davison Armstead Snead Hooman Lewis Swann Wilson Kikaha Rankins Sanford Hill Starters bolded Maybe it's the graveyard the dome is built on...

09-28-2016, 10:01 AM	#93
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Payton will stay but he needs to let Vitt and Johnson go and I don't know if he is willing to do that. It may be his downfall just like Mora with Carl Smith. Defensive line is still undisciplined. Even Jordan gave up containment to of all people Shatty Ice. Anthony (who I like) was out of position so many times it was ridiculous. All of our LB's think it is more important to engage with blockers than to flow to the ball. That's a bad scheme in my opinion. Look at the pick 6 Jones had. He was just flowing towards the ball because he sure wasn't covering anyone. Besides Brees should've hit Cooks who was wide open instead of forcing it to Thomas. We need changes to coaching the front 7 that's for sure. DB's except for Byrd are playing well considering their experience.

09-28-2016, 10:11 AM	#94
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by Budsdrinker We need changes to coaching the front 7 that's for sure. DB's except for Byrd are playing well considering their experience. What happened to this player?? neugey and dizzle88 like this.

09-28-2016, 10:21 AM	#95
captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by dizzle88 This is no way meant to be condescending, but please elaborate as to why his job should be safe? Because Sean took over a complete disaster of a team and drug his family into a hell hole that most can't even imagine. He got us a Lombardi, something that I NEVER thought would happen, and he got screwed big time by Goodell for our so called "Bounty" system. That alone set this franchise back a couple of years. Is he without fault? No, but as long as we have him and Drew together we have a chance. Some of the injuries we've sustained might be because of conditioning issues, but you can't blame broken bones, concussions or sprains on lack of exercise. I do think that some of the position coaches need to be shown the door. Loomis should also be given a hard look for these F/A disasters that we seem to keep getting ourselves into but not Payton. He has no choice but to start guy's that would otherwise have seen limited time on the field. Utah_Saint likes this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Just FYI, as we've had trouble at CB for as long as I can remember now, the player Sean Payton passed on to draft Andrus Peat.....you know....the guy who won defensive rookie of the year last season, yeah he's leading the league in picks once again. How do you pick Andrus Peat over Marcus Peters? Especially how badly we needed a corner that year and now. Peters had some serious baggage, but I agree. I don't have a problem with the position we picked, we need a RT, but it appears we picked a dud. If we don't spend every 2017 pick (and free-agents) on front 7 and O-line, the entire staff should be fired. dizzle88 and CharityMike like this.

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