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2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ChrisXVI I don't think we can trade him this year... It would result in $3.2 million in dead cap this year and $10.6 million in dead cap in 2018. Our best bet is to wait until after ...

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Old 08-18-2017, 08:34 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
I don't think we can trade him this year... It would result in $3.2 million in dead cap this year and $10.6 million in dead cap in 2018. Our best bet is to wait until after June 1st next year when OTA/training camp injuries start piling up around the league and the numbers would look like this:

POST-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2019 Dead Cap: $7,400,000
2018 Cap Savings: $10,300,000
You could always restructure the contract (sign & trade) where he'd get a little more guaranteed money and the trade partner would agree to those numbers...

I don't think we trade him this year when you factor he'll likely be back for the second half of the season; Zach Strief is getting older and really struggled against Bosa, if this is the year the ole' vet finally does tail off, I'd like to have Armstead coming back to provide fresh legs for a playoff push...

Also, Ramczyk will be a rookie that will eventually hit the rookie wall somewhere around Weeks 11-13, so there's that consideration...

But I think you really have to make an effort at moving one of the three left tackles - Armstead, Peat, Ramczyk - next offseason...

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How is Manti Teo doing? You guys figure him to start? Old Notre Dame fan here ...
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How is Manti Teo doing? You guys figure him to start? Old Notre Dame fan here ...
Welcome Smitty .

In the limited snaps he played vs the Browns last week ... looks like a keeper. I hope Teo gets extended playing time vs SD on Sunday night.

Fingers crossed he stays healthy and balls out from here on out.
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I don't think we can trade him this year... It would result in $3.2 million in dead cap this year and $10.6 million in dead cap in 2018. Our best bet is to wait until after June 1st next year when OTA/training camp injuries start piling up around the league and the numbers would look like this:

POST-6/1 TRADE
2018 Dead Cap: $3,200,000
2019 Dead Cap: $7,400,000
2018 Cap Savings: $10,300,000
I look at this and think draft and develop an OT in 2018. Can not be any worse than the dead wood vets we have now. Right now I am watching

Ike Boettger OG/OT/TE Iowa 6046 307 5.02 #75 rSr
Totally an upside pick. He came to Iowa as a TE and just grew out of the position. He has shown the athletic ability was not lost with the bulking up. He will have experience as starting swing OT on both sides. last year he showed well as a RT. This year he bounces to LT. Pass blocking is solid enough to invest a pick and start coaching the kid. I think he can also serve as a solid OG prospect. His run blocking was his strong suite. A back up swing OT and possible swing OG with one roster spot is huge. Never know he maybe able to hold down RT with some coaching.

Still keeping an eye on starting center experience and starting experience as a swing OG skills set also

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Do not panic at OT unless we go through the annual IR yet again in 2018. If so 2019 might be year to chase an LOT in the draft early. Maybe not if some one surprise us all and steps in the roll. Ramczyk?

Now when 2020 rolls around we should be able to deal with the contract and feel like we are hostage.

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Would love to take Boettger as a Right Tackle or Left Guard in next year's draft...
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Somebody is taking the lead on the last roster spot for offensive lineman; if they all play badly again tonight, I suspect a RB gets traded for a reserve offensive lineman to send a message and improve the unit...
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Oh man injury history is a killer
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Oh man injury history is a killer
5 year fully guaranteed contract please!
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

My current 53-man roster projection:

OFFENSE

QB 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel

FB 29 - John Kuhn

RB 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco

WR 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn

LT 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes

LG 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C 60 - Max Unger

RG 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT 64 - Zach Strief

TE 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis


DEFENSE

DE 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 58 - Obum Gwacham

DT 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 70 - Mitchell Loewen

NT 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata

DE 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196)

WLB 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 99 - Adam Bighill

MLB 51 - Manti Te'o, 52 - Craig Robertson

SLB 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti

RCB 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 20 - Ken Crawley

SS 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 25 - Rafael Bush, 31 - Chris Banjo

FS 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42)

LCB 26 - P.J. Williams, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore


A few notes...

* LT Terron Armstead to IR
* I don't know what we do with Breaux... But I don't like using the roster spot for someone who will be out 1/4 of the season. In my mind he goes to IR as well.

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