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08-15-2017, 07:49 AM | #641 |
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 Training Camp - PreSeason Week Two
OFFENSE QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 2 - Ryan Nassib, 18 - Garrett Grayson FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 39 - John Robinson (UDFA) RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 41 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 34 - Darius Victor (UDFA), 35 - Trey Edmunds (UDFA), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris CadetWR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 19 - Ted Ginn, 11 - Corey Fuller, 14 - Travin Dural (UDFA), 15 - Jake Lampmann, 17 - Xavier Rush (UDFA)LT (2) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 69 - Khalif Barnes, 72 - Terron Armstead LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 77 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner C (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 63 - Cameron Tom (UDFA), 66 - Jack Allen, 60 - Max Unger, 61 - Josh LeRibeus RG (1) 67 - Larry Warford, 62- Kristjan Sokoli RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 79 - Bryce Harris, 73 - Jerry Ugokwe TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 80 - Clay Harbor, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - John Phillips, 00 - Braedon BowmanSR (2) 83 - Willie Snead, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 88 - De'Quan Hampton (UDFA) DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 73d - Jason Jones, 91 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 97 - Al-Quadin Muhammad (R6, P196) DT (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 76 - Tony McDaniel, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 70 - Mitchell Loewen NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison, 93 - David Onyemata, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 68 - John Hughes DE (3) 57 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 55 - Darryl Tapp, 58 - Obum Gwacham WLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 52 - Craig Robertson, 99 - Adam Bighill MLB (2) 51 - Manti Te'o, 50 - Stephone Anthony, 59 - Jonathan Walton UDFA SLB (3) 53 - A.J. Klein, 54 - Nate Stupar, 56 - Michael Mauti RCB (2) 20 - Ken Crawley, 27 - Damian Swann, 37 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA), 35 - Malik Foreman, 23 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11) SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 25 - Rafael Bush, 31 - Chris Banjo FS (2) 48 - Vonn Bell, 43 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 30 - Erik Harris LCB (3) 26 - P.J. Williams, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 24 - Sterling Moore, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 40 - Delvin Breaux KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Justin Drescher Roster Count - Total: 90; Offense: 46; Defense: 41; Kicking: 3 *Following Do Not Count Against League Roster Limit of Ninety (90) Players PRACTICE SQUAD* 74 - Alex Jenkins (European Exemption) RESERVE/INJURED* LB 59 - Dannell Ellerbe WR 85 - Dan Arnold OL 73 - Martin Wallace DT 68 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA) *NFI RESERVE/NON-FOOTBALL ILLNESS* DT 90 - Nick Fairley RESERVE/RETIRED* OL 62 - Chris Watt KEY: PROJECTED STARTER FREE AGENT ROOKIE INJURED |
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08-15-2017, 08:18 AM | #642 |
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Can't help but think that our ProScouting Department is letting us down with our reserve offensive linemen...
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Originally Posted by Crusader
That's the catch-22. If he's healthy, we want him. If he's injured, nobody wants him.
Do we trade him away only to watch him play the next 10 years without missing a start or do we keep him, one of the best LT's in the league, only to have him ride the pine half of next season too? Is he a C.J. Spiller or is he a Rob Ninkovich? |
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Should Ramczyk prove he's more than capable and with the upcoming contracts, you gotta seriously think about moving Armstead next offseason to make cap room...
And a team like Chicago would be the perfect trade partner because you'll likely command a second round pick and it'll be one of the first five picks which should yield a more than capable Right Tackle... |
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Yeah, as much as I like Armstead that would make sense.
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
My question to this would be the ages of Strief and Unger. If healthy do you trade a proven LT in Armstead and draft a player to play RT to eventually take Striefs spot for the next 10 years or draft a C to eventually take Ungers spot? We basically have 3 LT's with 1 proven to play LG. The rookie isn't proven yet at this level but looks good so far and Strief(as good as he has been) isn't a spring chicken anymore as much as I like him.
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by halloween 65
Economics and priorities...
Some of the guys that will need to be extended in the next two years (2018, 2019) are Brees, Vaccaro, Breaux, Peat... And are we going to have an offensive line of all Left Tackles, when we still seem to need cornerbacks, defensive line, linebackers, tight ends? And do you wait till his trade stock will yield only a fourth round pick vs a second round pick? Look, the last three drafts have had several quality offensive linemen, Big Ten Corn-Fed Milk-Farm boys right there at the end of the first and through the first half of the second round... We'll get a younger, four-five year cap friendly linemen that can play right tackle which is a position that is a helluva lot easier to field than a left tackle... Armstead, for all his tremendous athleticism, hasn't played a full 16 healthy yet... |
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
No he hasn't and tell you what though that dude's contract makes him impossible to move. I am not sure when he becomes movable but i feel we are with our man, ride or die, for a few more years. Unless we can have him come back and play well then set up a trade. Just think with his recent injuries we are going to have him for a while.
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Regarding trading Armstead next offseason...
PRE-6/1 TRADE 2018 Dead Cap: $10,600,000 2018 Cap Savings: $2,900,000 POST-6/1 TRADE 2018 Dead Cap: $3,200,000 2019 Dead Cap: $7,400,000 2018 Cap Savings: $10,300,000 It looks like it's possible if we wait for OTA/training camp injuries to pile up around the league. Though, by that time Armstead himself could be injured again. |
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