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Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 I was thinking Houston because of their d and they got some pretty good receivers, what do you think? I hope he stays here though and we win some more again Sure you do....

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Old 01-07-2017, 09:43 PM   #201
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I was thinking Houston because of their d and they got some pretty good receivers, what do you think? I hope he stays here though and we win some more again
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Old 01-07-2017, 10:12 PM   #202
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

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Now that's wrong because the run defense went from bottom feeders to middle of the pack...

Because of injuries, we started either rookies or players who were released, cut during the first couple of weeks at the corners since Week 1...

There's a difference, an improvement and to not concede that point is just being stubborn...
I was talking about overall ranking JP. There were some improvements but not enough. I'm not being stubborn. We were still ranked near the bottom just like prior years and until we don't we're bottom feeders plain and simple.There was a post a good while back when some people was tooting Allens horn( they know who they are) and I said Allen wouldn't cut it with a 25th ranked D well he didn't even get that. I don't have one ounce of faith in the guy. I'm still trying to figure out what he has ever done to even warrant the hype he gets. Payton has loaded the guy up( draft picks and FA) and I think he's not much better than RR. At least(if rankings are what look good to some not saying you) but RR ranked us 5th his first season. I didn't see the 5th rankings looking at games but those were the stats. Our front 7 have been decently health all season. Allen is 3rd in blitzing, kind of like Williams was and that don't turn out all that well when you don't get there as you know. What I have noticed about his 2nd half adjustments he tighten the box up ( sells out to stop the run) making teams beat us with their pass, looks good in stats but better qb eat us up in the passing game. I will say this if he loses Ellerbe he's screwed.
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Strength & Conditioning Coach Dan Dalrymple is not on the list.
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:17 AM   #205
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

... so, has an offer been made to Wade Phillips yet?
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... so, has an offer been made to Wade Phillips yet?
Wanted him when we got RR
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

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... so, has an offer been made to Wade Phillips yet?
To change DCs again just looks clueless and sends a bad message about stability and continuity after so many down years.
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
So who do we hire as Defensive coaches?
Not sure, we're in uncharted territory here...

Payton has been hiring coaching replacements alongside the lame ducks the past three seasons with the designation "Senior (Enter Specialty) Assistant"...

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
... so, has an offer been made to Wade Phillips yet?
Why?!? Allen, within his own scheme, did a good complementary job; we just trashed the 3-4 for the 4-3...

As if rebuilding the defensive scheme every 2.5 seasons wasn't bad enough, are we now going to go year to year, back and forth, with the defense?
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

We could hire Farmer Fran as new ST coordinator...he runs roughly the same kind of practices McMahon did.

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We could hire Farmer Fran as new ST coordinator...he runs roughly the same kind of practices McMahon did.
You know, seriously, not that you'd want to overload a secondary coach, especially the great job ours is doing...

But at the levels of football I participated, the secondary coach also ran with special teams assignments and coverage...

I noticed and asked one of my Head Coaches why this was and his response was "who better than (the secondary coach)? (He's) got a better understanding of spacing and zone assignments than anyone..."

Still seems legit...
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